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NHL February 2015 |OT| The next Maple Leafs goal will be scored by Connor McDavid
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HadesGigas
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Sabres have 2 goals on 3 shots this game. Luongo in vintage form.
Coldnoodle
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Welp.
User 479360
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I hope Pysyk will be okay.
Also that Kessel will be shipped the hell out of town. I'm sick of him.
Also that Kessel will be shipped the hell out of town. I'm sick of him.
Not the same as "we are not trading him."
Also, lol at Dan Bernstein starting a bullshit locker room rumor and everyone running with it. People like him should be held accountable for when they lie. I dont understand how a guy like Brian Williams gets fired for a lie, but sports guys are wrong and lie behind "my sources" and nothing happens to them.
Buncj of old bitter assholes at 670 the score
I don't know why Murray is so obsessed with perceived potential, especially when a player has dropped the ball for multiple seasons. Other teams cut their underperforming kids pretty easily, yet Murray is content with icing the same underperforming mediocre lineup season after season.
He's as dumb as a brick. The kid has obviously been headshotted a few too many times.
Sharp's value is nowhere near what it was last year, so what they get for him is probably going to be close to his value right now. He was a ghost in the playoffs last year and isnt producing much of anything outside of the power play this year.
GM speak. Similar to Bettman speak.
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I got that impression from his comment about the suspension.
SuperSonic1305
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Noooooooo. Kessel must stay forever.
User 479360
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I'm starting to hate him, and can't stand Dion either.
Coldnoodle
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Does Jose Bautista follow everybody on Twitter?
It's because Bernstein is a total fucktard that, like gaming journalism or Fox News, should not be taken seriously.
Take Sharp + Bickell + Shaw + our 1st and we'll give him a good home. He'll like the pizza in Chicago and he can eat all the Stan Mikita's donuts he wants.
Coldnoodle
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Brian pls
User 479360
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He doesn't seem to give a shit about anything, doesn't play with enough heart, isn't a team guy and is not a winner.
If we can get a good return, he needs to go.
nintendork666
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Yep, should be an easy win for the Wings today.
Deserves got nothing to do with it. He's 28 and they won't get more return from him in future years, the time to trade him is this summer. Leafs aren't going anywhere for years so why keep him when you can load up on picks and prospects who are 9-10 years younger.
O'Neil?!?
nintendork666
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Spoke too soon. =/
I like Kessel and find his awkwardness kinda adorable. He might not be playing well right now but virtually nobody on this team is playing well.
I don't want to see him go, but if he does, I'd like a good return.
This just made me laugh.
DrForester
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Wooo! Go Not Detroit!
He has the hockey sense of a potato and skates like one.
I agree but the sticking point is how much will he decline in 3-4 years? If Kessel in 3-4 years is better than the return (which he might be), then you shouldn't be making that trade.
You can't just trade him for a late 1st round pick and a good prospect, there's no guarantee there.
If you're interested, read this Canadiens blog post about Kessel's potential decline: http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/n...sel-habs-trade-target-2015-nhl-trade-deadline It raises some points about why he might be better in a few years than some people think
Burkie already prepping for TradeCentre
It's like Burke loves his own image or something. "Gotta have the tie undone, that's a total Burkie move!"
Coldnoodle
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But did you see his Hero chart!?!
User 479360
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Why do I care how many sandwiches he can eat?
Unhandled Exception
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Cumiskey is bad tho. Hell of a skater, bad everywhere else.
3-4 years? Try 5-6 years for Leafs to be anything like a good playoff bet. I'm ok with keeping the fatty but I think they could do well in trading him now.
CrazedArabMan
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Detroit blowing 2 goal leads and probably the game, nothing new to see here.
He's definitely got some wheels but he's also been pretty solid defensively as well.
Unhandled Exception
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I'm sorry I know we've had this conversation before, but banking on a 5-6 year rebuild is stupid. Literally stupid, because if it takes that long for you to rebuild it means you're probably stupid. In fact the cap room gained with moving Clarkson has probably accelerated the rebuild by a year on its own.
3-4 years should be the goal.
in related news, I'm looking forward to Wendel Clarkman's CJB debut in a few minutes
edit: coincidentally, Mirtle JUST said a few seconds ago on TSN1050 that we're looking at 3-4 years
User 479360
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The waiting will suck, but if it takes 3-4 or 5-6 years for the Leafs to compete than so be it. They should've blown things up and done a rebuild years ago.
It would've been nice if they'd realized this prior to this season, because they'll just miss out on McDavid.
It would've been nice if they'd realized this prior to this season, because they'll just miss out on McDavid.
3-4 years for what? Making the playoffs or actually having a team that might win a round or 2? Just making the playoffs in 3-4 years sounds like a Burke accelerated rebuild that worked real well before. They have to be patient with this process for once, there are no shorcuts. Rielly will be 25-26 by then and if they build properly they might have a real good team
The Burke "rebuild" failed because they didn't value their players correctly. The team that made the playoffs in 2013 was not a good team, but they had potential. Then Nonis threw it away by signing Clarkson, extending Bozak, giving Phaneuf an exorbitant deal, missing the boat with Franson, letting MacArthur walk for nothing, using a compliance buyout on Grabo, etc. Also that compliance buyout wasted on Komisarek was hilariously dumb.
Anyway I'm not saying we go the Burke route here. 3-4 years should be when you aim for the team to be good. Not necessarily a contender. Once you have a good team then you can establish yourself from there.
Coldnoodle
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It also failed because Burke got Seabrook and Kane before Keith and Toews.
Burke was a big baka.
Man, I sleep all day and all kinds of shit goes down. Apparently the Rangers have reversed course now and are aggressively shopping Zuccarello. For whatever reason, Sather seems absolutely obsessed with NOT paying Zucc what he deserves/will get elsewhere, even though Zucc has taken below value contracts the last few seasons as favors in order to work towards a long term deal.
Meanwhile, they're also working towards trying to bring Pavel Buchnevich over right now as his KHL team missed the playoffs, and his KHL contract is apparently up. These two actions seem pretty likely to be related.
In short, this seems really fucking dumb. Much dumber than swapping out Callahan last season.
The return had better be really really fucking awesome.
Also, I found this really funny. Per Larry Brooks:
Meanwhile, they're also working towards trying to bring Pavel Buchnevich over right now as his KHL team missed the playoffs, and his KHL contract is apparently up. These two actions seem pretty likely to be related.
In short, this seems really fucking dumb. Much dumber than swapping out Callahan last season.
The return had better be really really fucking awesome.
Also, I found this really funny. Per Larry Brooks:
Coldnoodle
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That Glass money could have gone to the Norwegian hobbit.