Trotz saidnJomes will be playing with Weber n the first pairing right away.
Yea he's aiming to get bought out again.
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NHL Off-Season 2013 |OT| Celebrate Good Times Come On
- Thread starter ZeroGravity
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It'd be fucking sweet to get paid a couple million bucks from multiple teams every year and not have to do anything.
KernelPanic
Member
Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen to me. Can't remember any top defensive prospects jumping right into the NHL and playing top minutes the year they were drafted.
Stephen Weiss is a better option than Lecalvier, at least Weiss has been his team's #1C and been producing while Lecalvier has been the #2 C for his team the past few years. Put Weiss on your team as the #2C and watch him outproduce Lecalvier next season. Plus hes 4 years younger.
scissorfight
Banned
i'd rather have weiss for 5 years. you guys really want holland to sign vinny for 5 years?
edit: what Cake Boss said ^
edit: what Cake Boss said ^
I can't deny this :lol
As high as I am on him, I think this is too much too quickly too.
ZeroGravity
Member
Hedman averaged 20 minutes a game his rookie year, and didn't have anyone the quality of Weber to play with. Jones should do much better.
Crazymoogle
Member
Ribs had more than 1 ppg last year? Is it possible for someone to be both good and overpriced as a FA?
CrazedArabMan
Member
I want Vinny at 3 years. 4 is pushing it but 5 no. I will admit, if he does sign for 5 years at 5 million like rumored than I won't be angry, if he signs for less than yeah, won't be too happy. I'll take Weiss as it seems Detroit is pretty high on him, just was really hoping for Vinny since I think he is better.
CakeBoss, you speak sober words of wisdom, I hope we sign him and your prediction turns out to be true.
I thought you said Holland wanted to give him more than 2 years.
CakeBoss, you speak sober words of wisdom, I hope we sign him and your prediction turns out to be true.
I thought you said Holland wanted to give him more than 2 years.
ZeroGravity
Member
All free agents are overpriced. It's just the nature of free agency.
BigJonsson
Member
Well the story only broke in the past couple hours....
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
No--two more years, not more than two.
Watch him let Brunner walk but re-sign Cleary.
Yea but I was watching CP24 like just 2 hours ago, thought it was only for like 10minutes
Pre-season starts Sept 15th! Please hurry
Pleeeeeeeeease let this happen
KernelPanic
Member
Generally speaking you don't want to rush prospects into the NHL. Even if they can "handle" it you ease them into the NHL and don't just throw them into the fire.
History is full of first round picks who were busts or never reached their expected potential because they were rushed into the NHL.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Kulikov and Hedman stepped in just fine.
Cats don't QA Mueller and Skille. Not surprised with Skille but Mueller I thought was a lock. 1C and 2 RW are the biggest needs now.
Why do you care anymore when DET is no longer in your division?
There's also a huge amount of prospects that never fully matured because they weren't given the time to play in the NHL.
Ill be a skeleton before you can show me an example of a prospect who's development was ruined because he didn't play in the NHL right after he was drafted.
Coldnoodle
Member
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'd honestly give it an 85% chance.
Such as?
Zack Kassian.
Well maybe a better choice of words would be development halted / slowed.
Look at someone like Michael Grabner. Stuck in the minors due to not being given a chance, traded by VAN, put on waivers by FLA. Gets picked up by NYI and given a chance to play good minutes when not performing to NHL standards. Turns into a 25+ goal scorer.
It's hard to answer the full question of those that never matured because we can't quantify their actual potential if given the chance, but I think Michael Grabner is an example that shows that you need to give your young guys time in the NHL and allow them to make mistakes.
Do you have something of value to bring to the conversation or are you just trolling?
CrazedArabMan
Member
Marvie will forever hate us.
A. Draft Pick is going to do great things with San Jose, I can just feel it
God you are such a whiny bitch
You should ask yourself this first.
No forgive and forget? I forgave Chris Pronger when he moved to the east. I've forgiven Detroit as they are moving to the east. Infact, I'll cheer for them to do well because it'll show that the West is better than the East.
Saw it coming after the story yesterday. Dude either wanted too much money or too long of a contract. Maybe both. Oh well. His skill set is replaceable even if I liked him. Dude had the chance to keep playing with Joe Thornton and prove his worth but I guess he wasn't interested.
DW, you better have another trade or FA signing up your sleeve.
Edit: I spent 2 hours the other day talking about Kassian, the argument was that he has not been given the correct amount of ice time to produce, so STFU.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Whaddya talking about. He's a playmaking GOD!
As much as I bash Tabris, he's right on the money with this one.
Once players go through draft and find no career in it, they move on to other things.
People just assume that what you see is what you get
Players like Tim Thomas who didn't even get a chance until he was in his thirties...
Ed Belfour, Martin St. Louis both undrafted and weren't great at first... How many bust prospects could have become great?
Yep. I'm going for discussions, tired of every response of mine being trolled so I'll continue at it
Nah man, you guys are set
Marleau-Couture-Hertl
A. Draftpick-Thronton-Burns
Torres-Pavelski-Kennedy
Desjardins-Wingels-Burish
Havlat(injured)/Sheppard/Kearns
Vlasic-Braun
Stuart-Demers
Irwin-Boyle
Niemi
Stalock
This is like a man born with no legs deciding one day to try walking. Good luck.Yep. I'm going for discussions, tired of every response of mine being trolled so I'll continue at it
The general consensus has always been that goalies take longer to develop and teams arent willing to give goalies roster spots and hope they can develop while playing important games for the club, an underdeveloped inexperienced goalie can lose you games on his own, a skater can be in your lineup and not hurt you as much. Which is why you see goalies buried in the AHL or in Europe until they are 28-30 to finally get their chance at a #1 position.
As for StLouis, his issue and the question mark was always about his size and weather he could handle the NHL physicality.
Freyjadour
Member
I'll be taking this...
Give me fast top 6 wingers plz
SpectreFire
Member
Raymond for a Kit Kat.
Freyjadour
Member
Stew is looking for 4.5-5.
And Perron can stick handle his way into the back of net. Himself, not the puck mind you.