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NHL Off-Season 2015 |OT| With the first pick the LA Kings are proud to select...
- Thread starter Kave_Man
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7 years at 8+ is nuts
CreeperBlocks
Banned
DD for ROR please
Don't do it Sather... Don't do it!
I can't imagine anyone giving ROR more than 7 yrs $7M.
Not really. They have some guys who are long shots.
Not really. They have some guys who are long shots.
The only way it could happen is by shipping off Stepan.
Unlikely, considering Stepan is going to get something along the lines of 5 or 6 for 6-ish.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Well, Statsny got $7M for 4 years in St. Louis.
Those are literally insane numbers if true. Even as a "dare to dream" opening bargaining position from the player that's a big ask. But it could be legit, ROR and his team have always had very strong ideas about value and place in the game.
Coldnoodle
Member
dr.rocktopus
Banned
LTTP but WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CAREY
I definitely need a better TV subscription next season. Or maybe HockeyStreams?
I definitely need a better TV subscription next season. Or maybe HockeyStreams?
Fata1moose
Banned
The Avs should just pay him, we're not going to get a good return at this point.
Coldnoodle
Member
He'll be a 25-year-old free agent in a year.
Look at what Phaneuf, Ryan, Clarkson, Orpik, Niskanen, Stastny got.
Also:
I think $7Mx4 might be OK for ROR. x8 is crazy talk though.
he is very good... but as the HERO chart above suggests, he's not really a "star" whom you should offer big money-max term. a 2nd line / 1st line tweener.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Saw the ROR demands.
Suddenly Kessel's contract seems so much more reasonable.
Suddenly Kessel's contract seems so much more reasonable.
Coldnoodle
Member
That's pretty much the marketplace right now though.
There's talk that Stamkos might be the highest paid player in the league which is nuts D:
Like what is Voracek going to go for?
Voracek will be the new Ville Leino, mark my words
TheKaeptain
Banned
He'll be a 25-year-old free agent in a year.
Look at what Phaneuf, Ryan, Clarkson, Orpik, Niskanen, Stastny got.
Also:
I like O'Reilly, but for that type of money you need to be the best player on your team. He's not even the best player on the Avs. Comparing him against several poor contracts, like Phaneuf, Clarkson, etc, doesn't exactly prove he's worth what he's asking.
Sexy advanced stats, though.
A 25 year old with two Richard trophies who just captained his team to the Stanley Cup Finals? If not him, who?
Probably the guys with 3 Cup rings, including one they beat Stamkos for.
Just, you know, guessing.
Marian Hossa?
Fata1moose
Banned
I really don't think 7.5 is too egregious for O'reilly. His two-way game is fantastic and he can net the puck. Problem is we have to re-sign Johnson, Barrie and MacKinnon next year and fix our defense. It's nothing about an internal budget, that doesn't exist as they offered Stastny more than what Duchene/ROR makes last off season. They are going to be a cap team with or without O'reilly there's probably just not room for him.
Yeah, that's the guy!
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
I actually wouldn't mind picking up ROR. Depending on who falls I could go with trading #11 and a D prospect like McCoshen. Trade for him then sign him for 8 years, having him on 2nd with Pirri and Bjugs makes sense. Plenty of money coming off the books over the next few years along extensions for Pirri-Hubey-Barkov-Kuli-Guds-Ekblad. Should be able to fit.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Update: Stoll's felony charges got reduced to misdemeanors. Voynov is officially suspend which opens up some cap room.
Did the NHL really change the faceoff rules?
Did the NHL really change the faceoff rules?
Coldnoodle
Member
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Stay thirsty my friends.
Hello Joel.
Coldnoodle
Member
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BigJonsson
Member
Do the Leafs prefer Strome or Hanafin?
Does it even matter at this stage?
Does it even matter at this stage?
That would be a bad trade for Quebec.
according to Northernlion, Bieksa is the worst player in the league
then again according to Northernlion, Holy Water is better than Polyphemus so what does he know about anything
then again according to Northernlion, Holy Water is better than Polyphemus so what does he know about anything
Coldnoodle
Member
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I can't really have a strong opinion since I haven't seen either play but I would prefer the forward in a top 5 pick scenario.
I think Provorov thing is a bit of a smokescreen to get Columbus to move up.
demosthenes
Member
He'll be a 25-year-old free agent in a year.
Look at what Phaneuf, Ryan, Clarkson, Orpik, Niskanen, Stastny got.
Also:
Can someone explain this to me?
edit: I'm really sick of the WGR (buffalo sports radio) guys talking about trading for RoR with the money he seems to be wanting. They keep talking about how it would take Reinheart and Zadoraov and how that would be a good trade. NO THANK YOU.
Sure, these are usage adjusted graphs, taking into account the persons quality of teammates, competition, zone-starts, etc.
Basically
CF/60 = corsi for per 60 minutes
FF/60 = fenwick for per 60 minutes
So he generates shots at a 2nd line level in comparison to all forwards in the league.
CA/60
FF/60
Same as above except these are measuring shots against basically, and surpresses shots against at a fringe 1st line level comparing his numbers to the rest of the leagues forwards.
His goals, assists, and points per 60 minutes are at a first liner level in comparison to forwards in the league.
Basically he's a fringe 1st line centre.
BigJonsson
Member
Pittsburgh targeting Kessel? Kessel + Crosby would be ridiculous
Coldnoodle
Member
No pls.