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NHL Off-Season 2015 |OT| With the first pick the LA Kings are proud to select...

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zroid

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Samyy said:
Nah it was at the Mastercard Centre, 99% sure since the interviews from last year looked like those rinks.
Wondering if the Leafs will livestream anything but probably won't if its in Collingwood
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well they definitely did something in Collingwood, iirc

might have been a training camp thing

edit: aaah yeah it was the retreat in september. my bad.
 
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DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Leafs did preseason work in collingwood, not prospect camp... it was playing paintball and team bonding (great work team)

I assume the reasoning for it is media exposure

Edit: apparently it has more to do with pan am games... what the hell does pan am games have to do with the MCC? Lol
 
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Samyy

Member
DopeyFish said:
Leafs did preseason work in collingwood, not prospect camp... it was playing paintball and team bonding (great work team)

I assume the reasoning for it is media exposure

Edit: apparently it has more to do with pan am games... what the hell does pan am games have to do with the MCC? Lol
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Lameeee
Media is going to be there regardless, there isn't anything else to talk about right now.
 
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CreeperBlocks

Banned
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Breh. McDavid is pretty legit
 
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FUBAR McDangles

Member
User33 said:
His name is only a few letters away from Kirill Kabanov.

The writing was on the wall.
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:lol

Hopefully he can come over at some point. He has some legitimate skills.

He's already practicing with the U20 Russia team or something in preparation for some games against Canada next month so that is why he didn't come over. At least, that's what a reporter guy here says.
 
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Red_Man

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
There's a number of kids who play in Europe and don't come over for development camps, it's not that uncommon.
 
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zroid

Banned
Looks like to put in an official bid for an expansion team, NHL is charging $1M

it sure does sound increasingly like this is happening
 
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bonesmccoy

Banned
Red_Man said:
Phaneuf can take over a game? Rielly can take over a game? Lupul can take over a game? Maybe if you're playing Buffalo, give me a break. With Kessel gone, the Leafs offense is going to be exposed, they have a lot of decent "Depth" guys, but that's all they are, there's a reason they're playing for the Leafs on 1 year contracts.
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All true.

It's basically last year's roster, with Kessel swapped out for Parenteau, Hunwick for Franson, Winnik for Winnik, Matthias for Clarkson and Spaling for Santorelli. All but Matthias are downgrades.
 
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DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
bonesmccoy said:
All true.

It's basically last year's roster, with Kessel swapped out for Parenteau, Hunwick for Franson, Winnik for Winnik, Matthias for Clarkson and Spaling for Santorelli. All but Matthias are downgrades.
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You're forgetting arcobello, hyman, marincin

Do realize they're placing all those players who played combined 189 games that totaled a massive 15 points.

Carrick, Frattin, Smith, Orr, Lindstrom, McKegg, etc etc etc etc

Then there's booth.

If every player on the 3rd and 4th line scored bare minimum 10 goals next season, they'd make up everything lost with Kessel. Our 4th line was a black hole last season. You had a hard time observing any of their play, largely because they were invisible... and every possible observation of everything occurred while they were on the ice, showed that all they did was suck.
 
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Red_Man

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
DopeyFish said:
You're forgetting arcobello, hyman, marincin

Do realize they're placing all those players who played combined 189 games that totaled a massive 15 points.

Carrick, Frattin, Smith, Orr, Lindstrom, McKegg, etc etc etc etc

Then there's booth.

If every player on the 3rd and 4th line scored bare minimum 10 goals next season, they'd make up everything lost with Kessel.
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Do you even read the shit you post? Trying to salvage the loss of Kessel with a bunch of nobodies is hilarious. Your entire third and fourth lines aren't going to score 30 goals each, not to mention you're not even taking into account the fact that Kessels absence will completely gut the offence of your top 6 unless you really think Parenteau is going to step up and be a 30 goal guy. The Leafs have a great plan signing these guys and hoping to flip them for picks later, but pretending like they'll be in serious contention for a playoff spot and not miss Kessel is a joke.
 
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DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Red_Man said:
Do you even read the shit you post? Trying to salvage the loss of Kessel with a bunch of nobodies is hilarious. Your entire third and fourth lines aren't going to score 30 goals each, not to mention you're not even taking into account the fact that Kessels absence will completely gut the offence of your top 6 unless you really think Parenteau is going to step up and be a 30 goal guy. The Leafs have a great plan signing these guys and hoping to flip them for picks later, but pretending like they'll be in serious contention for a playoff spot and not miss Kessel is a joke.
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since you're having difficulty understanding... (not surprised)

Leafs 4th line scored less than 5 goals

Kessel scored 25 goals

so in between 4 players, they have to replace 30 goals

so if parenteau scores 15 and the 4th line averages 5 each... *WITH ALL OTHER PIECES CONSIDERED EQUAL* they have effectively replaced kessels scoring by making our 4th line do something rather than nothing.
 
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Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
DopeyFish said:
since you're having difficulty understanding... (not surprised)

Leafs 4th line scored less than 5 goals

Kessel scored 25 goals

so in between 4 players, they have to replace 30 goals

so if parenteau scores 15 and the 4th line averages 5 each... *WITH ALL OTHER PIECES CONSIDERED EQUAL* they have effectively replaced kessels scoring by making our 4th line do something rather than nothing.
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Red_Man

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
DopeyFish said:
since you're having difficulty understanding... (not surprised)

Leafs 4th line scored less than 5 goals

Kessel scored 25 goals

so in between 4 players, they have to replace 30 goals

so if parenteau scores 15 and the 4th line averages 5 each... *WITH ALL OTHER PIECES CONSIDERED EQUAL* they have effectively replaced kessels scoring by making our 4th line do something rather than nothing.
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You realize hockey isn't just numbers right? It's not as simple as replacing 30 goals. You also fail to realize that the probability of a concussion prone Parenteau playing with an AHL center who couldn't crack top 6 minutes for more than 5 games will score 15 goals isn't that high, likewise with every member of your 4th line scoring 5 goals each (how many fourth lines in the NHL have those numbers?). Then in the end, you're not even taking in account how much worse JVR / Bozak will be without Kessel, they were already a tire fire in their own zone, and now they don't have Kessel to carry them offensively through the neutral zone or to feed them passes, or how much worse your powerplay will be without Kessel on it. You criticize Leaf fans for not being ready for a rebuild, meanwhile you're trying to build up the team like some moneyball contender.
 
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Smiley90

Stop shitting on my team. Start shitting on my finger.
Hey guys if we trade a Sedin and every other player just scores 4 points more per season we're even, let's trade him! that's nothing!
 
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calder

Member
DopeyFish said:
Unfortunately, Leafs still have considerable talent in all positions.

Us fans don't want them to do well... but we still have players that can take over games.

That thought scares me because we haven't got rid of enough talent to guarantee us to be a bottom feeder.
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I can't even.
 
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DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Red_Man said:
You realize hockey isn't just numbers right? It's not as simple as replacing 30 goals. You also fail to realize that the probability of a concussion prone Parenteau playing with an AHL center who couldn't crack top 6 minutes for more than 5 games will score 15 goals isn't that high, likewise with every member of your 4th line scoring 5 goals each (how many fourth lines in the NHL have those numbers?). Then in the end, you're not even taking in account how much worse JVR / Bozak will be without Kessel, they were already a tire fire in their own zone, and now they don't have Kessel to carry them offensively through the neutral zone or to feed them passes, or how much worse your powerplay will be without Kessel on it. You criticize Leaf fans for not being ready for a rebuild, meanwhile you're trying to build up the team like some moneyball contender.
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in the case of when you have players who all down the stat sheet have 0G 0A and 0P, yes... in this case it's numbers. If you have 3 ineffective players, and replace them with effective players... you'll see an increase in effectiveness! woaaaahhhhh

re 4th lines: it depends entirely on the makeup of the team how many 4th lines produce. If they're full of bruisers, of course they don't. If they roll lines, then there's a possibility.

I was only using Parenteau as an example because you did... likely going to be Matthias or Brown directly replacing Kessel, FYI.

regarding the JVR/Bozak performance... I said earlier i don't know the impact of Kessel leaving... that's why I said assuming all things remaining equal.

I said the Leafs have pieces that can win games. that we have enough quality pieces that could potentially make the team enter the playoffs if everyone had a career year and the defensive zone were to be cleaned up. I am NOT in favor of the Leafs making the playoffs. I am saying that they likely won't, but there's a chance that we can get burned. I'm also not saying a fucking thing about it being anything like moneyball. In fact I have little to no idea about any of the guys the Leafs signed. I don't really care.
It was all in reference to Kadri/Rielly/Gardiner/Lupul/Phaneuf/Bernier/Reimer being a group of players that can effectively damage our hopes and dreams for a lottery pick if they put their minds to it.
 
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Fata1moose

Banned
Radulov said he's considering the NHL for the 16-17 season. Wonder how we will fit him under our cap with Barrie, MacKinnon and Johnson all needing extensions. Maybe we could dump Stuart on a team needing to reach the cap floor. I think we could find out a way to make it work.

Tanguay-Duchene-Iginla
Landeskog-MacKinnon-Radulov
Grigorenko-Soderberg-Rantanen
Comeau-Mitchell-Everberg

Zadorov-Johnson
Beauchemin-Barrie
Bigras-Holden/Siemens

Varly
 
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Delryk

Member
Quick said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see almost all of our FA signings get traded by the deadline.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they finish somewhere between 5-12th spot. Not good enough for the playoffs, but because of Babock, better than last year with less skilled players.
 
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Parch

Member
User33 said:
A low end #1 centre. He had a rough NHL debut (he was rushed) but was dominant in the WHL, putting up a ton of points considering he played half a season. Was the driving force behind the Rockets, leading them to the Memorial Cup finals
EDIT: I believe Mclellan mentioned that they'd be playing him at wing though
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Really nice season for Draisaitl. He's a big, smart, finesse player, but the concern seems that looks slow. It will be interesting to see where he fits in. I don't know if playing wing would work. He seems like a natural center and giving him the 3rd line could provide reasonable production. It's a case this year where the Oilers have enough depth now that they don't need him in a spot. A year or part year in the AHL wouldn't be terrible.

Same for others. Nurse and Reinhart could end up in the AHL as well. There is no guaranteed spot for these guys. They will have to earn their way onto the team this spring.
 
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Parch

Member
So who's left? Looks to be slim pickings for the leftover UFA's. Franson, Erhoff and Oduya can add some nice defensive depth to somebody. Chris Stewart is pretty good. The rest seem to be just veteran 3rd & 4th line depth. Is anybody at all interesting in Semin? What a major bust this guy turned out to be.
 
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Pikma

Banned
Thank you all for your support, it seriously means a lot to me, I don't have that much time posting here, even if I lurked for quite a while, but in that so little time you guys have already made me feel part of the community and I thank you for that too.

Calamari41 said:
Shit, I'm so sorry man. Just remember the good times, and think about the difference you made in his life.
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You would have liked him, I swear his most favorite thing in the world was eating hand sliced avocados, he enjoyed them so much, way more than any other treat or kind of food.

Here he is, quite a few years ago, way younger of course.
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Oh I'm gonna miss that beautiful guy...
 
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Curufinwe

Member
Flyers top 6 prospects vita the polls on HFB. The only close vote was #4 where Ghost just edged out Konecny.

1. Provorov
2. Sanheim
3. Morin
4. Gostisbehere
5. Konecny
6. Laughton
 
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SmackCrackleNPop

Member
Pikma said:
Thank you all for your support, it seriously means a lot to me, I don't have that much time posting here, even if I lurked for quite a while, but in that so little time you guys have already made me feel part of the community and I thank you for that too.


You would have liked him, I swear his most favorite thing in the world was eating hand sliced avocados, he enjoyed them so much, way more than any other treat or kind of food.

Here he is, quite a few years ago, way younger of course.


Oh I'm gonna miss that beautiful guy...
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Sorry for your loss. Think of the fun times.
 
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