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[Coldnoodle]

BOOBCOCK

 

[Plinko]

He has always said it wasn't about money.

If he takes the Leafs job, it was about money the whole time.

 

[GSG Flash]

I don't understand the Leafs obsession with a hiring a coach before a GM tbh (unless Dubas is the new GM).

Don't GMs usually like to hire their own guy?

 

[DopeyFish]

This has the potential to look really stupid for the Leafs. They overpay for Babcock only to keep missing the playoffs. Millions well spent! I agree they should just go and get some unknown coach that Dubas and Hunter like.

The sad truth is... Babcock's best year he had Lidstrom. We keep going for coaches who had the best defensemen in the game.

Though I really do want a great coach with solid systems... Its probably best to find a coach who had his team overachieve

 

[Samyy]

This has the potential to look really stupid for the Leafs. They overpay for Babcock only to keep missing the playoffs. Millions well spent! I agree they should just go and get some unknown coach that Dubas and Hunter like.

Why?
No one excepts -> hire Babcock = playoffs.

Its all about them finding the best coach they think can help:
- Instill a sold structure for the team and younger players to learn.
- Have someone that works well with younger players to help them grow.

If they think Babcock is the best option for that, I have no problem with them spending whatever they want to spend. Who cares how much anyone pays whoever, when its not against the cap? MLSE has tons of money.

I would agree it being stupid if they gave out some big contracts this summer or something to a FA, that would be dumb, but why does giving money to Babcock matter?

I don't understand the Leafs obsession with a hiring a coach before a GM tbh (unless Dubas is the new GM).

Don't GMs usually like to hire their own guy?

Normally yes, but thats because a normal GM is judged on the performance of the coach and team, and TO's GM obviously won't be judged on the coaching or team performance. That would be reflective of the management team as a whole.

 

[Razorskin]

I don't understand the Leafs obsession with a hiring a coach before a GM tbh (unless Dubas is the new GM).

Don't GMs usually like to hire their own guy?

Usually..

But the power structure in Toronto still has Shanahan at the top.

 

[yyzjohn]

Pro tip: as fun as it is to joke about Babcock's name, don't search twitter for #Cockwatch (not that there's anything wrong with that)

 

[zroid]

a Buffalo reporter was on TSN 1050 yesterday saying Babcock didn't feel comfortable with Toronto's muddled management hierarchy which is one of the reasons he wasn't going there

so maybe MLSE is trying to pay a ridiculous amount now to bring him over in spite of those concerns

oh god

I kind of hope the bidding war just gets crazily out of hand and someone ends up dropping like a $100 million bomb :lol

 

[Fei]

I'm all for hiring Babcock, but this is just a circus for all sides.

 

[KernelPanic]

Usually..

But the power structure in Toronto still has Rogers/Bell at the top.

FYP

 

[Unhandled Exception]

I kind of hope the bidding war just gets crazily out of hand and someone ends up dropping like a $100 million bomb :lol

"$100 million! AND all of our season ticket holders will blow you.

Ok fine not that.

Unless..?"

 

[Samyy]

I find it hilarious all these hockey people are so uncomfortable with a slightly different org chart.

I'm not sure what's so confusing about this:

Shanahan
- GM
- Dubas
- Hunter

 

[DopeyFish]

I find it hilarious all these hockey people are so uncomfortable with a slightly different org chart.

I'm not sure what's so confusing about this:

Shanahan
- GM
- Dubas
- Hunter

Maybe its the ownership... Bell/rogers/Tannenbaum don't always see eye to eye

 

[CreeperBlocks]

a Buffalo reporter was on TSN 1050 yesterday saying Babcock didn't feel comfortable with Toronto's muddled management hierarchy which is one of the reasons he wasn't going there

so maybe MLSE is trying to pay a ridiculous amount now to bring him over in spite of those concerns

oh god

I kind of hope the bidding war just gets crazily out of hand and someone ends up dropping like a $100 million bomb :lol

To be Honest? I Think Toronto should be going after Hitchcock.

 

[Razorskin]

FYP

:lol true but not as hands on

Babcock for coach AND GM.

 

[Fei]

I find it hilarious all these hockey people are so uncomfortable with a slightly different org chart.

I'm not sure what's so confusing about this:

Shanahan
- GM
- Dubas
- Hunter

Have you ever reported to two bosses? It's a mess.

 

[Samyy]

Have you ever reported to two bosses? It's a mess.

Huh?
Shanahan is the boss

Or Shanahan will just tell Babcock to report to the GM and stay away from all that, just like how other teams have a President and GM.

 

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[zroid]

To be Honest? I Think Toronto should be going after Hitchcock.

If he is actually available I'd be very ok with that

 

[CreeperBlocks]

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Yay For Nick Fog for C!



Now about that C in Montreal...

It has to be Pacioretty or Subban at this point right?

I know some people that think Gallagher should be C but I don't think Gallagher as Captain would be a good idea.

 

[Coldnoodle]

To be Honest? I Think Toronto should be going after Hitchcock.

Toronto vs Buffalo

The Cockbowl

 

[Quick]

To be Honest? I Think Toronto should be going after Hitchcock.

"There is another...cock."

 

[SCHUEY F1]

"There is another...cock."

Lol

 

[Red_Man]

Lmao at the Sens giving Hammond a 3 year 1 way contract. Ridiculous. Guess someone has to replace Robin "Franchise Goalie" Lehner.

 

[Quick]

Lmao at the Sens giving Hammond a 3 year 1 way contract. Ridiculous. Guess someone has to replace Robin "Franchise Goalie" Lehner.

Ottawa's going to roll with three alternating goalies.

Just according to Sneskaku.

 

[NihonTiger90]

Well, this Babcock thing escalated quickly.

 

[dem]

Who in their right mind would take a coaching job with the leafs right now? Especially over Buffalo.


The tire fire has barely started in Toronto. They havent hired a GM.. so the coach doesn't even know who he is working for. They haven't traded away Kessel, Phaneuf, etc.. so you have no idea what you will be working with. The Toronto media thinks its job is to create drama and get people fired/traded.

If Babcock goes there.. he is fucking insane.

 

[Merguson]

There is absolutely nothing new about the Toronto Maple Leafs organization structure.
More than half of the teams in the NHL have similar structures.

By President, I mean either in Hockey Operations or President of the team. The main thing is that the GM doesn't have the President in his title as well.

Ducks, Coyotes, Bruins, Sabres, Flames, Hurricanes, Blackhawks, Avalanche, Blue Jackets, Stars, Red Wings, Panthers, Devils (recent!), Flyers, Penguins, Lightning, Leafs, Canucks and Capitals fall under that.

The Oilers, Kings, Predators, Islanders, Rangers, Senators and Blues are the ones where President & GM are the same person.

The Wild don't really seem to have a clear definition of who is the President of the hockey club. Same with the Sharks and Jets.

The Habs have their owner listed as President of the Hockey club.

Of course, it's all about degrees of control. Flyers could have a traditional GM/President person but we all know Ed Snider is heavily involved.

 

[Kave_Man]

Who in their right mind would take a coaching job with the leafs right now? Especially over Buffalo.


The tire fire has barely started in Toronto. They havent hired a GM.. so the coach doesn't even know who he is working for. They haven't traded away Kessel, Phaneuf, etc.. so you have no idea what you will be working with. The Toronto media thinks its job is to create drama and get people fired/traded.

If Babcock goes there.. he is fucking insane.

If the dumpster fire known as Edmonton can finally crawl out of the shitpile and hire some credible people why not Toronto?

 

[Coldnoodle]

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 4m4 minutes ago
To pass the time. In other coaching news, Randy Carlyle spoke with the Sharks this week. Adam Oates is talking with Wilson today.

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Just go to Buffalo Babs, be free!

 

[dem]

If the dumpster fire known as Edmonton can finally crawl out of the shitpile and hire some credible people why not Toronto?

Our dumpster fire has been burning a long time... It may even be burnt out in a few years.


Toronto? Yeah...

 

[CreeperBlocks]

Here comes Randy.

Poor Acid

 

[Quick]

The Randy Cocklyle era slowly approaching.

 

[zroid]

I'm so torn between wanting someone to hire Carlyle asap just to watch that hilarity unfold and not wanting him to ruin the Sharks. I like the Sharks! ;_;

Hertl

 

[CreeperBlocks]

I'm so torn between wanting someone to hire Carlyle asap just to watch that hilarity unfold and not wanting him to ruin the Sharks. I like the Sharks! ;_;

Hertl

Jumbo

 

[KernelPanic]

Lmao at the Sens giving Hammond a 3 year 1 way contract. Ridiculous. Guess someone has to replace Robin "Franchise Goalie" Lehner.

What's so wrong with it? You know he's had that nickname for a while in his college days because he'd steal games his team had no business winning right?

He's played for crappy teams(Bowling Green and our crappy AHL team). So his numbers aren't that very good.

Work with our goalie coach seems to have taken him to another level.

If they see something in him. Why not?

The best goalies seem to come out of nowhere.

 

[Coldnoodle]

 

[Merguson]

Mike Harrington
‏@BNHarrington
If Babcock is leveraging #Sabres and even DET to run off to Toronto, that would be pure scum at the highest level. Winning? Yeah, right.

Buffalo media preparing the mudslinging just in case.

 

[KernelPanic]

He's just doing what every prized free agent does lol.

 

[Coldnoodle]

Flyers sign Medvedev.

 

[Merguson]

Bobby McKenzie said Buffalo out on Babcock.

Toronto or Detroit?

 

[BigJonsson]

Hockey insiders are gonna have to eat their hats

 

[zroid]

Buffalo media preparing the mudslinging just in case.

LMAO dat salt

probably more like leveraging Toronto to eke out more money from Buffalo anyway

he always said he wants to try and get paid as much as possible to change the perceptions on what NHL coaches are paid.

 

[CrazedArabMan]

Flyers sign Medvedev.

Noooo!!!! I wanted him and he is a huge Datsyuk fan.

Edit: NVM, wrong Russian I'm thinking.

 

[Merguson]

Aaron Ward said Babcock has decided to leave the Red Wings.

Therefore, he's staying.

 

[dem]

There is only one real Medvedev

Never forget

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Sadly even with the Cock the Leafs will still be flaccid.

 

[Coldnoodle]

http://www.danslescoulisses.com/fr/rumeur-tomas-plekanec-echange/

Je vais donc vous sortir TOUT ce que j’ai. Vous en ferez ce que vous voulez. Moi, je crois en ma source… Mais il faut toujours se méfier d’une seule source, dans un dossier.

Tomas Plekanec aurait annulé au moins un contrat le liant à une entreprise montréalaise. La raison de cette annulation : Je ne serai plus à Montréal très bientôt.

Selon ma source, Tomas Plekanec aurait été échangé déjà et le moment de l’annonce de cette transaction est inconnu pour le moment.

J’ai tenté de corroborer cette info avec une 2e source, mais le Canadien se fait très muet, les journalistes québécois sont souvent les derniers à apprendre ce genre de nouvelles… Et Plekanec est encore en Europe! #Mondiaux #RépubliqueTchèque

Mais bon… Ma source est claire, nette et précise : Plekanec a été échangé.

EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING

 

[FUBAR McDangles]

So he's not staying in Detroit and not going to Buffalo

bah gawd is it happening