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NHL Off-Season 2015 |OT2| What are the Odds of Hockey in Vegas?
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Fata1moose
Banned
Well that's an unusual turn of events, sickening. It really doesn't make sense at this point.
Really doesn't add up. Attorney isn't an idiot.
You're essentially the same as a Ray Rice defender before the tape.
Can't fault you for it, and I even thought the Ray Rice situation was overblown (people calling him to be suspended for years before I mean) until I saw the tape. Now I've learned better.
Athletes are supposed to be held to a higher standard by their leagues, so it should be suspended until proven innocent or the scope is understood, not the other way around.
I believe that's Brent Gretsky, the greatest hockey player to ever live.
I recommend watching what the attorney for the accuser had to say
There is zero reason for a bag with matching identification number to show up on a doorstep like that. The whole thing is fucked.
Calamari41
41 > 38
This makes it seem even more like the attorney acted without involvement from the DA's office.
Has anybody corroborated the attorney's story here? About how he "confirmed" that the bag in his hands is The Bag?
I don't even know
the word "original" in that evidence bag statement confuses me, if it's "original", then why does the ripped bag the attorney has have the nurse's signature on it? WHAT IS THAT BAG lol
I'll just wait it out. I'm sure eventually we'll know wtf happened. Until then, let's all watch Kane score goals because it's not like that'll give the NHL a bad rep.
yeup.
Doesn't even matter, it's not like the attorney can just "get" the evidence bag and remove it if he wants to - something has to have happened to get that bag in his hands.
Even if it is the bag, it's still just a bag unless I read things wrong? That there wasn't anything in it?
You can't pop on down to Office Max or Staples and buy yourself a rape kit bag doppelganger. He checked with law enforcement, prosecutors, and people that have worked at the lab, and the hospital where it was performed. It shouldn't be seen anywhere outside of law enforcement's hands. That alone is troubling enough. But you add in someone obviously blowing the whistle and the bag being ripped, things get dark.
It's "just" a bag as much as "this was the bag the evidence was in at some point, why do I have this bag, what happened to the evidence between being in this bag and the bag it's in now", yes
dr.rocktopus
Banned
The Kane situation took a hell of a turn with this possible evidence tampering. It's quite the statement...in either direction.
With regards to if he should be suspended or not, the way I look at it is yes, Kane is innocent until proven guilty. This is his right. Playing hockey is not, it is a privilege granted by the league he works in. The league needs to set an example and take a stand: you fuck around legally you get suspended. The players need to be smarter with what they do. The potential for extortion rises, yes, but if this goes the other way and Kane is found guilty, can you imagine how tone deaf will the league look?
With regards to if he should be suspended or not, the way I look at it is yes, Kane is innocent until proven guilty. This is his right. Playing hockey is not, it is a privilege granted by the league he works in. The league needs to set an example and take a stand: you fuck around legally you get suspended. The players need to be smarter with what they do. The potential for extortion rises, yes, but if this goes the other way and Kane is found guilty, can you imagine how tone deaf will the league look?
Champs League? Madrid?
what
I love how Gretzky is clearly unimpressed but can't mention the error without looking like a douche.
The connection is unstable.
I don't even want to try ranked because I get disconnected all over the place. It seems to have gotten worse.
Calamari41
41 > 38
That's the wrench thrown in for me, though. I trust his presentation based on the fact that he checked it out and got confirmation that this is The Bag. But now we've got the people who he would have checked with saying that The Bag is still where it should be, untouched.
It's a cluster fuck from where I'm sitting.
Here's my question: has anybody other than this attorney said any of this? Has anybody who would know given any kind of confirmation?
Thanks for the link.
So considering the bag, and that Police Services have said all the evidence is in their original packaging, which suggests a strong possibility of tampering before it was handed off to Police Services.
I assume the DNA testing was done after the hand-off to Police Services.
1. The county says they have evidence. Not THE bag, just A bag. They make no judgement as to whether or not that evidence was tampered with because they can't know. They weren't the first ones to handle it.
2. The local PD says they have a clear chain of custody, which doesn't seem to be the case because rape kit bags with matching identifying information (a huge no no) are showing up on doorsteps.
Calamari41
41 > 38
OK, thanks, I guess I lost the plot at some point in the day here.
So someone other than the lawyer confirmed that there are two bags with matching ID numbers, nurse initials, etc?
I assume he is going to leave that to an outside investigation. There's no realistic way to corroborate that info.
As expected:
Calamari41
41 > 38
OK, thanks. We're definitely going to have to sit here and wait for the investigation to turn up whatever the hell happened here.
CrazedArabMan
Member
I wouldn't even trade Kane for Cleary right now if that was an actual offer...* This is just getting crazier if it all ends up being true.
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No, I probably still would. sigh...
So basically the county's saying "don't look at us, for all we know we got the right stuff" and it's up to Hamburg to explain what in the blue hell is going on.
You know you would, because even a suspended Kane would be better for the Wings than a playing Cleary.
Lawyer: We have this bag of evidence here, something's fishy
County: Don't look at us, we have the bag right here!
everyone else: WHY ARE THERE TWO BAGS
link?
bonesmccoy
Banned
Another wonderful day for American law enforcement!
CreeperBlocks
Banned
What a crazy day. At least we have hockey tonight.
Regular Season is so close
Regular Season is so close
You mean the text that's basically illegible on GAF mobile? Great point, what a conversation this isOr where it says TOTTENHAMHOTSPUR.COM/STORE
That could be a clue too
apocalidiot
Banned
Just a reminder because the regular season is coming up -
Man I had to bail out of there because I was so angry
TheKaeptain
Banned
That bad?
Coldnoodle
Member
Lebron'esque.
Zombie James
Banned
CrazedArabMan
Member
The Old Wings better not lose to the Baby Hawks today!
yeup.
Also the constant plugs for MCDAVID MEETS MESSIER, CHECK IT OUT ON YOUTUBE
yeah we get it, fuck Messier