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No.
And it should be noted that the new Buffalo News story is stuff that comes directly from the accusers friends.
That being said, he probably did it.
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NHL Off-Season 2015 |OT2| What are the Odds of Hockey in Vegas?
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No.
And it should be noted that the new Buffalo News story is stuff that comes directly from the accusers friends.
That being said, he probably did it.
According to who? Your ass?
17 Seconds
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Good one.
Simon Belmont
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Had one of those "woke up to my wife screaming at me to get up because something was wrong" type of mornings. We have a toddler so that was my first thought. I was running before I was even awake.
Turns out the toilet had started shooting water out the bottom and was flooding the house. Good times.
Turns out the toilet had started shooting water out the bottom and was flooding the house. Good times.
Leslie Nielsen FTW!! The guy was sooo good.
Calamari41
41 > 38
It actually was
For your living room wall Quick
A2U
CreeperBlocks
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Sami Salo has Officially Retired
Dastardly Jerks
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*white guy voice* I just wanna say that noone wished me a happy 30th and that reflects more on my lack of presence, or being a decent person, than anything else.
Sry.
Happy Birthday Marvie.
Sry.
Happy Birthday Marvie.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DSTRDL
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How so?
I'm a Hawks fan that desperately hopes this isn't true. However, based on the info we've heard so far and what I know about Kane's behavior off the ice (and pro athletes in general), I think it's much more likely that something happened than not.
This is just a guess. None of us know. Obviously I'm not saying he should be vilified yet, but this is not a court of law, so the "innocent until proven guilty" stuff has no impact on my feelings towards the situation.
I'm just saying that if I had to bet my life on it, I wouldn't have to think too hard about what I would bet on.
Calamari41
41 > 38
Welcome to the early 30's club Dastardly. It only gets worse from here.
Happy Birthday.
Sidenote: All these women on Tinder wearing Blackhawks jersey's, it's disgusting.
Dubbedinenglish
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Pretty crazy Dastardly and Marvie share the same birthday.
Calamari41
41 > 38
The only evidence as of right now is the accusation itself, and "leaks" from people with whom the accuser has personal relationships. I'm not arguing that he's innocent, and you can do your whole "court of public opinion" thing all you want, but that doesn't mean that your statement of "he probably did it" isn't being pulled from your ass.
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17 Seconds
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So if an educated guess on something isn't 100% concrete, it's being pulled from your ass? Ok. But then when he's cleared (which he will be, because he has endless resources and they ultimately won't be able to prove it wasn't consensual), people will act that that's conclusive. Part of the reason that only a tiny sliver of rapists get convicted is this attitude right here. Everyone is always so ready to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, as if humans are generally great people. We're more eager to assume the girl is lying than assume the guy is capable of doing it.
Whatever. You can think what you want. I'm just saying based off Kane and his cousins' track record and the fact that this girl went for an immediate rape kit, I'm finding it hard (as a fan of the team) to feel more confident in his innocence than otherwise.
ActStriker
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Especially since we don't even know if "it" specifically pertains to him and how. As far as I remember his house was investigated and that he's a person of interest but not specifically targeted for being charged. Means it could have been a friend of his. But that doesn't even mean he would be in the clear. He could still be culpable if they find he was negligent or his reputation could be further stained by hanging around town with a rapist. There are a lot of ways this could shake out at this point. It appears ugly from top to bottom, but there's still a lot to reveal about what happened. But judging from what little we know, it certainly sounds ugly and bad for Kane, even if we don't know what "it" is.
Oh and uh, happy birtyday dstrd!
Calamari41
41 > 38
Of course it doesn't look good, but saying "he probably did it" is on a completely different level. Say and think what you want, but don't get bent out of shape when people scoff at you.
17 Seconds
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It's not on a "completely different level", at all. Do you want to talk semantics now? I am not a journalist publishing a piece of Kane and accusing him of doing it. I'm on a message board saying that I feel like there's a better than 50% chance he did something wrong, and I honestly don't really feel like I'm going out on a limb by saying that.
17 Seconds
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Kane and his people would have come out and said he isn't the one being accused if that were the case. .
CreeperBlocks
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Calamari41
41 > 38
And a couple of people who also aren't journalists do feel like you're going out on a limb based on the information we have right now. It's not that big of a deal.
There are any number of reasons why that wouldn't be the case. I'm not saying there's no room for skepticism or pessimism, but there's plenty that we don't know now that we will know in the next month or so.
17 Seconds
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I don't have a problem with disagreeing that it's more likely that he did it. Saying "according to who, your ass?" is immature and pointless.
And just because we don't have tons of information on this accusation itself doesn't mean we don't have tons of information on the accused person, and the rape culture of guys like him in general. I think most people just hear about the cabby and partying stuff with Kane, but it goes way deeper than that. We're talking about a guy who uses his friends as sex bouncers as his parties, confiscating people's phones and shit to allow them to enter. Honestly, the story didn't even really surprise me that much when it first broke. I mean, shit, this isn't even the first time he's been accused of aggression towards women.
Then again, maybe she's lying and all the stuff I'm saying here just made him an easier target. Who knows. All I said is that I don't feel good about the chances of his innocence.
17 Seconds
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At the very least, it would have leaked that he wasn't the one being accused.
All them Leafs prospects on Pronmans top 100 list
Where is bracco on the list
This is why I like you. You should have a talk with the rest of those Ducks fans, especially the ones down under
That Hunter thievery. And you wanted them to take him in the 20s!
Five Jets in the top 40, good... goooood. And my god does Pronman love Marner and Nylander. Nylander I get, but he has Marner so damn high it surprises me.All them Leafs prospects on Pronmans top 100 list
Just as good, InGoal magazine just came out with their top 50 goalie prospects, they have Hellebuyck #1 and Comrie #4.
Malcolm Subban at #2 and the Caps' Samsonov at #3 but no one cares about them.
Well... Yeah! Leafs got very lucky he fell
The lowest he was rated was 61, the highest was like 12th OA
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DASTARDLY.
CreeperBlocks
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All them Leafs prospects on Pronmans top 100 list
Where's this list?
Behind an ESPN Insider paywall...
Or in a relevant thread in the r/leafs sub-reddit.
I think he played enough games in the NHL to be removed from the rankings.
Its behind the insider thing but the Montreal prospects are:
42) Hudon
81) Juulsen
83) Scherbak
89) Reway
Pronman excludes anyone who has played more than 25 games at the NHL level which is why Derrick Pouliot was also excluded.