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[Cactus]

Wasn't the Weber deal originally an offer sheet by another team (PHI, I think)?

Not sure it's fair for NSH to get penalized. It's not like Poile and his management team crafted this contract.

 

[Fata1moose]

Remember when we were talking about Tanev+ for Subban after the Benning stuff

err... I think Tanev is better than Weber

At least that would have made more sense, getting a move defensive guy, younger. They instead got older and worse.

 

[Smiley90]

Remember when we were talking about Tanev+ for Subban after the Benning stuff

err... I think Tanev is better than Weber

well as a Canucks fan, I'd do Tanev for Subban in a heartbeat too. It's not like that was ever on the table and we asked for more... it was just that Horvat, Tanev + 5th would've been waaaaay too much.

or do you mean YOU think Tanev is better than Weber? Because... I don't think so. He's good but I think Weber might still be better.

 

[yyzjohn]

No joke I just saw a car with a Habs flag flying at half mast.

 

[Yawnier]

Well... He certainly is on the top pair in Edmonton!

Klefbom-Larsson

All Swedish top pairing lol

I wonder though if acquiring Puljujarvi made Hall expendable? I would've thought RNH, Ebs or Yak would've been made expendable after that pick but certainly not Hall.

Unless they thought ahead of time and figured they wouldn't be able to afford Hall, McDavid and Puljujarvi down the road.

Yeah... either way I expect that at least one more of RNH, EBs, or Yak, will be traded for more help on D this summer. RNH you think could bring in a top 4 defenseman but with the Chiapet I have no idea.

 

[Montresor]

The thing that really sucks is the Preds will have to deal with the bullshit that the Flyers forced on them.

Wasn't the Weber deal originally an offer sheet by another team (PHI, I think)?

Not sure it's fair for NSH to get penalized. It's not like Poile and his management team crafted this contract.

You guys are right.

You know what I wish there were more Preds fans. The complaints/backlash against this stupid fucking rule needs to be loud. What an unbelievable and unfair penalty to impose on a team that didn't create this contract in the first place.

I tend to agree, but it was intentionally harsh to punish those cap circumventing contracts. That's why so many of them were bought out when they could be for free.

It's crummy that the teams that cheated on purpose get away scott free via buyouts while Nashville will likely get penalized hard in a few years.

 

[lamaroo]

Welcome Shea.

Good for all of the people who bought Yannick Weber jerseys.

 

[calder]

It's crazy to think the Leafs might actually have a better shot at winning a Stanley Cup before all the other Canadian teams.

In no way are the Leafs closer to contending than the Jets.

 

[ShinRPGamer]

It's interesting to see some Oilers fans start to turn on Chiapet. Most seemed to be happy with him until this trade today.

Not only is the straight trade bad for the Oilers, but to consider that the Chiapet just traded away the Oilers' most valuable, semi-expandable trade piece to acquire a top pairing D.

and on that topic Larsson just isn't a top pairing defenseman.

I honestly think trading Hall is the straw that broke the camels back for a lot of people. Not only are people turning against Chiarelli because of this deal but there's also a noticeable amount of fans who are straight up giving up on this team like I did a while ago. I know my family will now be cheering for different teams moving forward.

And why shouldn't they? This is likely the winner for the stupidest and shittiest decision made by the team since 2006. And it was done by a GM people actually had faith in.

I wonder though if acquiring Puljujarvi made Hall expendable? I would've thought RNH, Ebs or Yak would've been made expendable after that pick but certainly not Hall.

Unless they thought ahead of time and figured they wouldn't be able to afford Hall, McDavid and Puljujarvi down the road.

No they didn't. Thinking they did at any point (or think at all for that matter) is giving the Oilers way more credit than they deserve.

 

[ElephantShell]

It's 37 degrees today where I live. All the hot takes are heating up the atmosphere .

 

[zroid]

well as a Canucks fan, I'd do Tanev for Subban in a heartbeat too. It's not like that was ever on the table and we asked for more... it was just that Horvat, Tanev + 5th would've been waaaaay too much.

or do you mean YOU think Tanev is better than Weber? Because... I don't think so. He's good but I think Weber might still be better.

Yeah, well, it's probably pretty close. Weber contributes a lot on the PP obviously, and he's good offensively, while Tanev doesn't produce anything. Tanev is one of the best defensive defencemen in the league, while Weber is kind of a tire fire. I probably lean toward Tanev because of age and money.

At least that would have made more sense, getting a move defensive guy, younger. They instead got older and worse.

yeah pretty much

 

[MultiJhonny]

The thing that really sucks is the Preds will have to deal with the bullshit that the Flyers forced on them.

That was Holmgren lol

In no way are the Leafs closer to contending than the Jets.

Yeah I think the Jets are closer than the Leafs

 

[MultiJhonny]

oops

 

[Cactus]

In no way are the Leafs closer to contending than the Jets.

They're pretty close to the Jets, IMO

Either way, I think they're the two Canadian teams heading in the right direction. (possibly Ottawa as well)

 

[Parch]

For the record, I never said I was opposed to the Lightning re-signing Stamkos, or that he was "done." He just wasn't the kind of player who deserved 10+ million anymore. Yzerman signed him to exactly the right deal.

Tampa fans should be thrilled. That's a very reasonable contract for Stamkos. T&S suggesting that the PA is going to be pissed about that contract and Stamkos could have gotten a lot more on the open market.

 

[calder]

Shit, just switched to Tim & Sid and they did that thing where they talk seriously about the thing they are talking about but you can't tell what they were talking about and then they say they'll talk about it more tomorrow and now it's killing me what the fuck were the talking about.

 

[zroid]

Calgary should be good. They addressed their biggest weakness in a big way (Elliott). Their D is legit. Forwards are getting there, and they just picked up Tkachuk.

 

[Kifimbo]

In no way are the Leafs closer to contending than the Jets.

Of course, right now they are.

But the Jets are not actually close to winning the Cup. No Canadian team is. I'm just saying the only Canadian team with a chance to be great in the next 5-10 years is the Leafs.

 

[iLLmAtlc]

Knowing the NHL they're probably gonna forgive the Preds if the 2025 scenario comes to fruition. Like how they were all you can have your 1st round pick back Devils for no reason. 24 million on the cap would make it pretty much impossible to ice a team i think lol.

 

[Yawnier]

One of the things that would scare me about the Jets is the central division over the next several years. Even if the blackhawks cool down over the next few years that division is still relentless and stacked.

 

[Cactus]

Calgary should be good. They addressed their biggest weakness in a big way (Elliott). Their D is legit. Forwards are getting there, and they just picked up Tkachuk.

Lol, totally forgot about the Flames.

Not sold on their management, though

 

[zroid]

Knowing the NHL they're probably gonna forgive the Preds if the 2025 scenario comes to fruition. Like how they were all you can have your 1st round pick back Devils for no reason. 24 million on the cap would make it pretty much impossible to ice a team i think lol.

maybe... Preds are a budget team anyways and the Cap will probably go up a fair bit by then

might not be a huge deal

 

[Curufinwe]

Wasn't the Weber deal originally an offer sheet by another team (PHI, I think)?

Not sure it's fair for NSH to get penalized. It's not like Poile and his management team crafted this contract.

If you match the sheet, you gotta take the heat.

 

[SCHUEY F1]

Several people on my Facebook keep saying Habs won the trade. All that media bias getting in peoples heads.

 

[User 479360]

I wonder if it will end up being a sign and trade to Toronto for Stamkos. I'm excited about the possibility, but also very very scared about what we'd have to give up.

 

[Smiley90]

Good for all of the people who bought Yannick Weber jerseys.

How many times has it occurred that different players with the same last name have worn the same number on the same time? that's pretty funny

I wonder if it will end up being a sign and trade to Toronto for Stamkos. I'm excited about the possibility, but also very very scared about what we'd have to give up.

no it won't, stop it dopey

 

[Kifimbo]

I wonder if it will end up being a sign and trade to Toronto for Stamkos. I'm excited about the possibility, but also very very scared about what we'd have to give up.

After today, I can't say this can't happen, but the Lightning firmly denied this is a possibility.

 

[Quick]

I wonder if it will end up being a sign and trade to Toronto for Stamkos. I'm excited about the possibility, but also very very scared about what we'd have to give up.

Nope.

https://twitter.com/RealStamkos91/status/748262136925818880

 

[Parch]

I wonder though if acquiring Puljujarvi made Hall expendable? I would've thought RNH, Ebs or Yak would've been made expendable after that pick but certainly not Hall.

Sure it did. Puljujarvi is another NHL ready winger. I think the Oilers tried to shop Nuge, Eberle, and Yak for d-men and were highly disappointed with what they could get.

I think McD, Pulju, Draisaitl, and Talbot were untouchable, so that leaves Hall as the only significant chip that could bring in defensive help of any significance. Now the Oilers are rumored to be the top candidate to sign Lucic, so that could be another reason that made Hall expendable.

I was certainly hoping Hall could have brought in more, but I'm not surprised he was the one to be moved.

 

[Red_Man]

Desharnais outlasted PK. How can anyone root for this fucking team.

I would have bet everything I owned against this happening.

I've been reading a lot of reporters talk about how this is a terrible trade, both short and long term, for the Habs too though. If Bergevin doesn't win a cup within 2 years (probably not going to happen), this trade will the the "TSN turning point" to his firing. Therrien should be back on RDS Antichambre before the end of next season, or we riot.

Honestly, I may just not bother watching next season...that's how pissed I am right now.
.

I don't hate Weber, but this is such a fucking dumb move that is shows Bergevin doesn't have what it takes to build a cup winning roster. He hasn't made a big move in his entire career here, and then goes and trades the face of a franchise and a generational player. I honestly don't know if I'll be able to watch next season, it's now a waiting game for all of management to be erased, just like Gauthier.

 

[calder]

If you match the sheet, you gotta take the heat.

Co-sign. Zero sympathy for teams that got or will get fucked on cap recapture after the league basically promised all the teams it would be happening in the next CBA once the cap avoidance deals started. Be mad at the asshole who made the shitty offer sheet by all means, but you still matched that shit.

 

[zroid]

I wonder if it will end up being a sign and trade to Toronto for Stamkos. I'm excited about the possibility, but also very very scared about what we'd have to give up.

 

[User 479360]

Nope.

https://twitter.com/RealStamkos91/status/748262136925818880

Son of a bitch

 

[mdubs]

Staples staying salty I see

 

[CreeperBlocks]

Shea Weber conference call on TSN690

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Apparently the Oilers wanted Hamonic for Hall but the Islanders said no. I guess Chiarelli got desperate.

 

[ProfessorMoran]

I wonder if it will end up being a sign and trade to Toronto for Stamkos. I'm excited about the possibility, but also very very scared about what we'd have to give up.

I'm surprised Yzerman would be willing to take the hit on the cap when there are people who need to be paid. Or that Stammer would be willing to play for Cooper again when they don't really get along, that's a LONG time to stick with a team when you don't really like or trust the coach.

 

[User 479360]

Tavares is the new saviour.

 

[MultiJhonny]

Apparently the Oilers wanted Hamonic for Hall but the Islanders said no. I guess Chiarelli got desperate.

WE heard rumblings towards the trade deadline about RNH for Hamonic but that was when Hamonic still had his trade request active and before RNH got hurt.

 

[Simon Belmont]

Tavares is the new saviour.

Apparently our search for a 1C continues?

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

 

[SuperSonic1305]

Straight up lying at the draft saying Subban wasn't getting traded.

 

[User 479360]

Apparently our search for a 1C continues?

Can't hurt to have another if it's someone like Tavares or Stamkos. A proven commodity.

 

[zroid]

Old white man accuses young black man of being violent, I'm sure that will go over well

 

[Smiley90]

Benning should appeal to the NHL to have his fine reduced

just for shits and giggles

 

[Parch]

I'm surprised Yzerman would be willing to take the hit on the cap when there are people who need to be paid.

At that price they definitely should be happy with the Stamkos contract. That had to be the difference between staying and walking. Tampa wasn't going to pay market price, but they worked out a good deal that made it work. If they end up losing others, so be it. Keeping Stamkos is worth it.

 

[MultiJhonny]

Benning should appeal to the NHL to have his fine reduced

just for shits and giggles

Nah in true Benning style he should appeal to have it increased

 

[CreeperBlocks]

Straight up lying at the draft saying Subban wasn't getting traded.

That was shitty on Bergevin, he just lied to everyone.

 

[zroid]

Staples staying salty I see

Staples is what happens when you take Steve Simmons and swap the character assassination and trolling for hardcore homerism

 

[Parch]

WE heard rumblings towards the trade deadline about RNH for Hamonic but that was when Hamonic still had his trade request active and before RNH got hurt.

I never believed it then, definitely not now if Isles turned down Hall for Harmonic.

I shudder to think what type of defenceman the Oil were offered for Nuge. Probably turds.