All 8 of them?
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
NHL Off-Season 2016 |OT| My prospects are better than yours
- Thread starter zroid
- Start date
Not even that many, more like 4 or 5 of them
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
The return of Jagr now official
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Or die as one if he hangs on a couple more years.
Steroids?
Legit, I don't think he's a guy who has or seems to have often even wanted long term relationships. He's more of a "dating a 19 year old swimsuit model for a couple of months" sort of guy. I've also read a few interviews where he admits that he's tough to be in a relationship with as he loves hockey way more than anyone he dates and his romantic partners inevitably get sick of him preferring to go to the gym 3 hours a day. It was a bit sad honestly.
Heck yeah, will be 20 degrees tomorrow, beautiful day for afternoon golf. Lucked out having a half day at work.
I never went once last year for someone reason so I'm trying to rectify that.
Really looking forward to walking a half KM to pick up something after work than walking over a kilometer home. :|
Really looking forward to walking a half KM to pick up something after work than walking over a kilometer home. :|
O lawd
CosmicQueso
Member
Who cares how old the guy is if he cam get results? He's been in the front office a while now already.
Forgot though, people posting on hockey message boards are more knowledgeable and credible than the ownership group and actual front offices. Talk about something being a joke.
Maloney was great, but results didn't follow. If they don't with the new guy the coyotes are right back where they started. On the other hand, kid brings some new thinking to old stodgy nhl front offices it'd be a good thing. When Epstein got hired in Boston at 28 heard the same dumb shit and the Sox ended up with multiple rings.
Forgot though, people posting on hockey message boards are more knowledgeable and credible than the ownership group and actual front offices. Talk about something being a joke.
Maloney was great, but results didn't follow. If they don't with the new guy the coyotes are right back where they started. On the other hand, kid brings some new thinking to old stodgy nhl front offices it'd be a good thing. When Epstein got hired in Boston at 28 heard the same dumb shit and the Sox ended up with multiple rings.
as long as he's smart, forward-thinking, and there's a strong supporting staff, I don't really see it as a problem
the NHL old boys club has always been too traditionalist and slow to evolve
LOOOOL
Unless there's some amazing context to that discussion we're missing that's the dumbest thing I've seen anyone in hockey say in years. And I occasionally forget to mute Coach's Corner.
LOOOOL
Lol fucking hilarious since I just finished listening to his Ottawa radio interview from this morning.
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/ottawa-1200/mcguire-capitals-are-not-playing-their-game-1.483932
Skip to the last minute. Legit almost dropped my weights after his comments on the analytics movement.
He lists buffalo, Toronto and Edmonton as the reasons why analytics doesn't work.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
That Fire in Fort McMurray is ridiculous. Holy Smokes. I hope Flames , OilersGAF or anyone else in that area stay safe
LOOOOL
What the fuck lol
Leafs hired dubas like exactly a year ago... and he's in charge of the marlies... and they just had the 3rd best season in AHL history
.....Edmonton?
Ayy lmao
and even for Toronto, the Leafs have only embraced analytics in the last 2 years since Dubas was hired and after that hiring they started the analytics department in the FO so it's not really fair to use them as example.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
If only Pierre got the Pens job lol.
You mean he didn't? I've yet to see a Pens game this season when he wasn't on the bench
A Serious Man
Member
Tanner Glass would be making $5m a year right now.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Waaaaatttt??? Toronto realized they were in deep trouble and snapped out of it....????? DAFUQ is he taking about...?
CosmicQueso
Member
Here's how I think the interview went:
Leblanc - "so, explain to us this chart GAF user zroid posted"
New Guy - "that's quite simple actually..." Goes on to explain a zroid chart. To all attending, sounds more like mandarin.
Leblanc - "well, you're hired. You're the only person we've spoken with that understands these charts so we think you must be smart. No one in any other front office has any idea what it is that guy posts with those charts."
KernelPanic
Member
Doesn't understand math or analytics so just blindly dismisses it
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
So glad that Jagr is back next year, probably the 4th or 5th best player to ever play the game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarom%C3%ADr_J%C3%A1gr#NHL_records
A reminder that Jagr was the only player other than Wayne Gretzky or Mario Lemieux to win the scoring title between 1981 and 2001...and nearly added another in 2006.
Not to mention, it's very possible he could have a 70 point season next year, coming from the man with the most consecutive 70 point seasons, including the lockout-shortened 1994-1995 season. If he hadn't left for the KHL in 2008 he'd very likely have had 16 or 17.
His career high of 149 points (62 goals, 87 assists) in 1995-1996 is more than anyone else has ever had besides Esposito, Yzerman, Lemieux, and Gretzky.
From Wikipedia, let's not forget the awards:
Let's not forget his absolute domination in the 1998-1999 season, 20 more points than anyone else in the middle of the dead puck era. The 127th and final point came in the overtime of Wayne Gretzky's final game, which Jagr won in overtime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarom%C3%ADr_J%C3%A1gr#NHL_records
A reminder that Jagr was the only player other than Wayne Gretzky or Mario Lemieux to win the scoring title between 1981 and 2001...and nearly added another in 2006.
Not to mention, it's very possible he could have a 70 point season next year, coming from the man with the most consecutive 70 point seasons, including the lockout-shortened 1994-1995 season. If he hadn't left for the KHL in 2008 he'd very likely have had 16 or 17.
His career high of 149 points (62 goals, 87 assists) in 1995-1996 is more than anyone else has ever had besides Esposito, Yzerman, Lemieux, and Gretzky.
From Wikipedia, let's not forget the awards:
Let's not forget his absolute domination in the 1998-1999 season, 20 more points than anyone else in the middle of the dead puck era. The 127th and final point came in the overtime of Wayne Gretzky's final game, which Jagr won in overtime.
SmackCrackleNPop
Member
Need a GM hired with Dopeystats cred
bonesmccoy
Banned
Was Pierre implying that the Leafs under Burke and Nonis were using analytics to build their teams?
I mean, it is possible. There was some chatter from the assistant coaches back then about the usage of their own 'analytics' - I think it was something like high quality chance versus low quality chance.
Pleased for Jagr.
Not pleased at all that the league is still in the dead puck era.
I mean, it is possible. There was some chatter from the assistant coaches back then about the usage of their own 'analytics' - I think it was something like high quality chance versus low quality chance.
Pleased for Jagr.
Not pleased at all that the league is still in the dead puck era.
Really looking forward to walking a half KM to pick up something after work than walking over a kilometer home. :|
wtf? 34C? In the first week of May?
good lord Winnipeg
LOOOOL
Wat
Whether it'll work or not in the end, how can anybody come to that conclusion at this stage? Like seriously. The Leafs just basically finished gutting their core this season.
You need to find a GM or coach that does more than talk a big game. Dallas Eakins had everybody conned in Edmonton because he was a snake oil salesman, but his lack of experience resulted in zero results. What a phony.
"Smart" can be faked. There is no replacement for experience.
"Smart" can be faked. There is no replacement for experience.
I doubt that's what he's implying, he's just an ignoramus. But either way, whatever what going on under Burke and Nonis wasn't "analytics". Tracking some random stat to try and prove your system isn't a complete travesty as every other predictive metric shows is something I like to call stupidity.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
I know, 2014-2015 was downright embarrassing, highest scorer was Jamie Benn with 87 points.
At least 2005-2006 and 2006-2007 weren't too bad.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Scoring chances
"Was that a good scoring chance, Randy?"
"I dunno, did it look like it might go in..?"
"Well...it was a point shot that Reimer let in behind a screen"
"No, it was not a good scoring chance. He's only playing okay this game..."
bonesmccoy
Banned
Oh for sure. I just remember some smug comments from those guys about their own system they were using, and Pierre doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would dig deeply into these kinds of things.
Keep me updated with how your rounds go!
Really looking forward to walking a half KM to pick up something after work than walking over a kilometer home. :|
Well dang, that's a hot day.
Damn all you people playing golf right now.
I'm not dropping $46.50 to play on fucking temporary greens
I grew up on temp greens, everything here in the city already feels like it's in great condition, I'm not picky!
Fuck Burke was a blowhard, the only "stats" I remember him spitting out were a few random tweets about how good the Leafs record was with Phaneuf in the lineup. They had a bit of a run at one point and he tweeted the record a few times. Analytics!!!
Erdrick
Member
Really looking forward to walking a half KM to pick up something after work than walking over a kilometer home. :|
I sure love wearing a suit in weather like this... It wasn't bad this morning when I left around 6am but egad... when I got outside this afternoon, I wasn't expecting this level of heat just yet. It's fooling me into thinking that it's June or July already.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
Trotz,Gallant and Ruff are this year's Jack Adams Recipients
I think Trotz has this, then he gets immediately fired if they lose to Pittsburgh.
I honestly think Pete Deboer should be mentioned or Hakstol.
I think Trotz has this, then he gets immediately fired if they lose to Pittsburgh.
I honestly think Pete Deboer should be mentioned or Hakstol.
I'm guessing Marner is itching to get revenge against Nedeljkovic for the World Juniors
so far so bad, though
