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NHL PlayOffs |OT| Keep your hopes up, and your salt on the ice
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Coldnoodle
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Everybody gets banned.
If it was Hossa, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be pleased.
Kerry Fraser and Aaron Ward said that the hip connected with the groin and that the contact with the head was incidental. I disagree with them. If they're right, then I'd agree that it's definitely legal.
With the Subban hit, *no one* would debate that the head contact isn't incidental. You can clearly see him hitting the shoulder *first* and driving through and connecting with the head.
Honestly, dude. Are you this stupid or are you just feigning stupidity to avoid looking stupid? The "gif" you posted was two frames! There were several frames missing, all of which showing that Subban connects with the shoulder before hitting the head.Cake Boss said:
Cake Boss has to be Brick, though, come on.
bonesmccoy
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Wow, 2 games! You never, ever really know what kind of, if any, Shanaban will be meted out.
Ok and I was saying that the hit is basically like Gryba's where the head was the 2ndary point of contact.
I didnt' say that the head was the primary point of contact, I just said throughout the hit the head was touched.
tycoonheart
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Man sens habs tonight is gonna be a bloodbath isn't it?
Nope. I think you'll find that both coaches have instructed their players to reign it in. There will be a few big hits and some scuffles, sure, but no all out brawls. Just tight-checking, hard playoff hockey.
Only way it becomes a gong show is if its a blowout either way.
Did that gif have enough frames for your liking, or do you want a better one?
Not surprised. I would have asked them to remove it because it's an ugly sweater.
He returns to hit the series-winning homerun on one leg.
Seriously though: how epic would it be if the series went to 7 and he suited up in Game 7?
Fair enough. Any post based around a gif that changes reality like that is null/void, though, imo.
Re: the comparison
Subban's hit was clearly legal (except if you're going by the two-frame gif), and Neil wasn't at all vulnerable. That's why no one's calling for him to let up. With Gryba, not only was Eller vulnerable, but there's still disagreement about whether or not the contact was legal. I'm no Habs fan and would rather the Sens win this series, but I'm still convinced that the shoulder-to-head was primary, not incidental. But it's extremely close.
That's gonna be our modern day 'The Hockey Sweater' story right there.
Were the cops involved?
If he has no concussion symptoms by then, put a face shield on and he is good to go.
:lol at above.
equippedwithtowel
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Somehow that doesn't surprise me.
One thing I can ABSOLUTELY guarantee: provided we don't get swept and there is a Game 5, you can bet your ass Eller will be in the press box and they'll show him on the jumbotron to get the players and fans jacked the fuck up. It will be electric.
I like how this is right on the heels of the American kid who caused a shit storm by wearing an NRA shirt to school. Hockey politics, just as serious.
Habs vs Sens 2: Cakeboss strikes back.
They tried this with Mason Raymond, but he had a back brace on and looked like he just wanted to sit back down. It was depressing.
Except the part where I was saying the hit is legal, I think both hits are legal and fair hockey plays, the difference is that one was a bit harder and didnt see it coming, it ended bad for 1 guy but not the other.
Hes' vulnerable because of that pass, his dman put him in a bad position just like Neil did skating up the wing with his head down a bit.
You could make the argument he put himself in a bad situation as well.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=56698720&postcount=4227
lol
Eller's incident makes me think of some of the other awful Habs injuries in the past 15 years:
- Koivu almost losing an eye in the Carolina series due to an eye gouge
- Trent McCleary getting his throat slit by a skate and almost dying
- Richard Zednik getting destroyed on an incredibly dirty hit from Kyle McLaren
- Donald Audette getting cut with a skate right across the wrist and almost bleeding out
- the Pacioretty hit
Anyone remember some/all of these? Poor Zednik eventually went on to get his throat slit in Florida with a skate too.
- Koivu almost losing an eye in the Carolina series due to an eye gouge
- Trent McCleary getting his throat slit by a skate and almost dying
- Richard Zednik getting destroyed on an incredibly dirty hit from Kyle McLaren
- Donald Audette getting cut with a skate right across the wrist and almost bleeding out
- the Pacioretty hit
Anyone remember some/all of these? Poor Zednik eventually went on to get his throat slit in Florida with a skate too.
Cake Boss I think you lost some brain cells while you were disconnected from Gaf. The difference is one had the head as the principal point of contact and the other didn't.
I envision the NHL turns every game into the NHL all-star game and the sport dies within a year.
There needs to be the threat of danger for these guys, otherwise this is all you're going to get. I can't wait until we revisit this hit with a different pair of people, and the defenseman just lets the forward go and everyone just talks about how the defenseman fucked up.
I guess everyone outside of Montreal is stupid except for the all mighty habbers.
Everyone outside Habs land have said the principle of point of contact is not the head hence why they think its clean.
The solution is equipment. Go back to softer pads. Gryba still lays the hit, but he takes something off of it to prevent injuring himself too.
equippedwithtowel
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No but I have this.
You aren't the poster we deserve, or actually the one we need.
But never leave us.
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It's a good thing he didn't get suspended then....
At any rate it is very close. When I see the freeze frame from the NHL video, it looks like the head gets hit first. That is what I'm going off of.
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