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NieR: Automata |OT| "I wouldn't expect too much from this game if I were you."
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Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
I can't explain the feeling I had all route a trying to understand how this was a sequel, it felt like hours of the ballroom scene from og nier. Just pure madness.... irony being alien part was true.
RyougaSaotome
Member
Whoops.
MultiJhonny
Banned
i mean he did warn lol
I thought sidequests you complete in Route A carry over to B and C? Is that wrong?
They do. But if you leave them incomplete you'll have to restart.
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
One would think after the first 10 minutes of shooting a single enemy the thought would cross your mind that maybe the gun isn't meant to be used as a primary weapon.
That's fine, then.
Another thing, I know there's a point of no return for completing the sidequests, when is it? Will it warn me about it?
ASilentProtagonist
Member
nice, game just crashed. Route A -
After killing machines at resistance camp, "what's that noise" boom crash...
Ludger Kresnik
Member
On to route B. I love that (minor spoilers)
21O and 6O are complete opposites to each other, not unlike 2B and 9S.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
And that's route B.
I have mixed feelings.
I might take a break for a while and play some other stuff before returning. I'm really excited to dive into Route C as it seems
I have mixed feelings.
9S just doesn't have the crazy fluidity of 2B, and the hacking minigame inevitably gets repetitive when it's the easiest way to do massive damage to enemies. The new story beats felt like a deliberate retread of NieR, where each of the bosses are given backstory and details. Bar none the most batshit moment was when the Commander just casually reveals the extinction of the human race and this entire war is basically just a big ploy. That was fucking incredible. And the insight into 9S' character was great and really fleshed him out.
I might take a break for a while and play some other stuff before returning. I'm really excited to dive into Route C as it seems
to be entirely new content. I just hope I get to be Best Waifu of 2017 2B again.
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
I got it in route A, but I imagine it's much the same, just go there after the factory event. If you're asking where it is there's an area where you can jump across the big hydraulic press things.
dunno how i feel about this game after putting 8 hrs or so into it... but i think its fair to say like it less than the first Nier.
The main issue for me is the world, characters, and general storytelling were so much more engaging for me in Nier 1. Nier 1 had an energy and charisma to it that the sequel isn't capturing. I immediately cared more for its characters; helped by the writing and acting which were also a cut above Nier 2, I feel. I remember laughing and getting emotional quite a bit during the first Nier, but that's not happening so much with this game. And the only thing that's really makin me feel giddy with Nier nostalgia, is the music, which is still fantastic.
Other than that, Nier 2 has more refined gameplay but still feels dated in some of the same ways the original Nier did. Perhaps its coming off playing Nioh, but having 'just' a good combat system isn't really impressing me thus far.
The main issue for me is the world, characters, and general storytelling were so much more engaging for me in Nier 1. Nier 1 had an energy and charisma to it that the sequel isn't capturing. I immediately cared more for its characters; helped by the writing and acting which were also a cut above Nier 2, I feel. I remember laughing and getting emotional quite a bit during the first Nier, but that's not happening so much with this game. And the only thing that's really makin me feel giddy with Nier nostalgia, is the music, which is still fantastic.
Other than that, Nier 2 has more refined gameplay but still feels dated in some of the same ways the original Nier did. Perhaps its coming off playing Nioh, but having 'just' a good combat system isn't really impressing me thus far.
TeddyShardik
Banned
Just got picked up my copy before work today. Now I just have that nightshift to get through. :/
I should never get games before work again. This is torture.
I should never get games before work again. This is torture.
This game is not nier 2. That's your first problem. The way the story develops, how it is told and is structured, and even many of its emotional beats are not the same.
Going into this as if its supposed to recreate Nier is the wrong attitude. Its telling a different message
Muffin1611
Banned
Oh, okay. Seems like I didn't complete the one where I have to pay 50k to the two Resistance fighters then?
I was using Nier 1 and Nier 2 for simplicity's sake, not to be technical. And i know it's got a different tone, which is why i just explained the game overall isn't doing it for me.
This is pretty interesting since I feel like you get something out of the revelation whether or not you've played the first game.
You can't get it in Route B.
psychotron
Member
It's not. Some spots are better than others but it's been there for me through many areas.
Did you go to all three spots? For one of them, you have to go all the way up to the top of the building.
if you've only played 8 hours, i'm assuming you have only played a part of route A?
Like the original Drakengard 1 and the original nier, it would have been nothing special without B, C and D
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Yea i find it strange how people keep saying YT doesnt do the same thing twice, yet he spends alot of route B doing just that.
Anyway i really recommend continuing playing now the plot is about to get good.
psychotron
Member
I got to the top of a building but the way out is blocked by something. Climbed that huge ladder.
Prithee Be Careful
Industry Professional
Well, I've given it a couple of hours now and honestly I'm struggling to see the appeal. Combat is quite fluid, though I find top down view breaks a lot of the melee mechanics by making enemy movement almost impossible to read.
Aside from that, the story and acting do little to draw you in and the environments - particularly once you're out in the open world are so barren as to look almost unfinished.
Last of all, why - in a future where mechs and androids are commonplace - is the map an indecipherable cluster-fuck of grey blocks?
Aside from that, the story and acting do little to draw you in and the environments - particularly once you're out in the open world are so barren as to look almost unfinished.
Last of all, why - in a future where mechs and androids are commonplace - is the map an indecipherable cluster-fuck of grey blocks?
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
He doesn't make the same game twice, as in every game he makes has a drastically different feel and story to it. That's not really talking about new game plus. My advice if people have having a rough time with the replaying of the section just rush through it, takes me about 4 hours if I speed through to get back to entirely original content or at least content that is radically different.
To expand on this,
when I say "deliberate retread" I meant that the similarities to the NG+ of NieR were there to mae the player believe the game was just going to be the exact same as NieR.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
The world is barren because... there's no more people left. Just some animals and a few androids mostly there for recon purposes. It's an open world game, but it's not really a sandbox one.
As for the map, it's addressed later on.
I mean, it's addressed in that the game tells you to shut up and stop whining about it.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
True.
Play the game and find out.
If you are to lazy to do that (Warning - includes major spoilers for all routes):
It's actually foreshadowing for one of the game's twists. Adam - one of the most advanced machine life forms - is heavily associated with cubes as he tries to reconstruct "humanity" from cubes. Hitting Adam during his boss fight in the Copied City also causes him to drop cubes. It's eventually revealed that the YorHa units were based in part on the machine life forms. So yeah, it's basically another hint at the truth about what's going on.
Prithee Be Careful
Industry Professional
Meaningful as it might be, it makes it a pain in the arse to read.
xZoneHunter
Member
Are any of the sidequests missable? Like is there a point of no return i should know about?
Novum_Veritas
Member
xZoneHunter
Member
Awesome!
We already have 1 or two then
Yea I'm like, how is someone not at least a little curious as to what happens next? o_o
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Route B:
Simone huh... Dem feels.
MultiJhonny
Banned
i love seeing those
also just got ending
lololololol
lunar tears around the map
also just got ending
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Don't miss the side quest that comes from them, it'll hit you in the fucking face with a nostalgia bomb if you do it.
I somehow felt nostalgia even though I never played the original :v
I'm a noob with a total noob question:
I played through the intro, went into the ruined city, and was playing late last night and fell asleep.
My quest tells me to eliminate the machines in the desert. I don't know where the desert is.
The bigger problem is, I'm back in the intro area and can't figure out how to go anywhere else. I just run around the intro area endlessly.
Edit: nevermind, I'm a dummy
I played through the intro, went into the ruined city, and was playing late last night and fell asleep.
My quest tells me to eliminate the machines in the desert. I don't know where the desert is.
The bigger problem is, I'm back in the intro area and can't figure out how to go anywhere else. I just run around the intro area endlessly.
Edit: nevermind, I'm a dummy
DrunkShogun
Member
First sidequest failed due to advancing story mission.
mission was the one that I had to fail. First run so will probably do it properly that time. Great game so far and avoid trailers and information allowed me to have a genuine shock reaction.
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