I feel the same way. I've died twice and I have to do all of that again? Poor design choice. I really like the play mechanics and am enjoying the game but that is a bit ridiculous. And I have plenty of recovery items but I'm getting trapped under the boss and it's lights out. It won't automatically use my recovery items like it was earlier.
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NieR: Automata |OT| "I wouldn't expect too much from this game if I were you."
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I feel the same way. I've died twice and I have to do all of that again? Poor design choice. I really like the play mechanics and am enjoying the game but that is a bit ridiculous. And I have plenty of recovery items but I'm getting trapped under the boss and it's lights out. It won't automatically use my recovery items like it was earlier.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
You want it to be Souls and you died during the intro...?
Even on hard, the game is OHKO city and it's annoying because I'm never necessarily sure whether or not to start stacking defense up until I actually get OHKOed and then sent back to a faraway checkpoint.
It's a really eccentric game, if I had to say anything lol
Hikami
Member
You can actually just run past enemies like you would in a souls game. Except for sometimes when the doors are locked and require clearing out the room though.
The intro is the only section i've encountered that i've found puzzling design decision wise. All the other sections have a much more convenient save system. You just have to save regularly once you obtain access. I had a similar experience, but on Hard mode.
I also feel very bad that I think A2 is a much better character than 2B.
I also feel very bad that I think A2 is a much better character than 2B.
Guys help me out.
How does she heal exactly ? Is it automatic ?
Also, what do about the big robot arms that track no matter what ? I run and use dodge, but they track me and take out half my health...
I played the demo,didn't die once.
I dunno,the robot arms boss seems to have pretty nasty tracking.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
You can use healing items by pressing down on the dpad and selecting them. I believe you can use the touch pad too. You also heal upon a level up IIRC, and later on once you get chips you can use those to heal from attacking and whatnot.
For the arms, just mash dodge. You don't need precise timing or anything and 2B doesn't get tired after consecutive dodges like in something like Bayonetta. Just dodge till it's done then attack.
It happens in order. I'm only on C right now, but can confirm that once you beat it, you reload it to see the B chapter, beat it and then reload that for the C chapter.
Down on D-pad to access items menu, X to use.
You can dodge through the arm attacks of the prologue boss with the right timing, timing is pretty generous on dodging. You can just spam it even.
Hikami
Member
facepalm007
Member
Deputy Dangle
Member
Hopefully, something's still keeping your interest in the meantime?
I just want to say that the sound design in this game is stunning. The way they use music to set the mood is brilliant, and I'm not sure I've seen the soundtrack used this well in a game before.
The use of vocal and non vocal version of tracks, as well as fade ins to songs upon completion of quests etc is just so, so well done.
The use of vocal and non vocal version of tracks, as well as fade ins to songs upon completion of quests etc is just so, so well done.
Sumio Mondo
Member
Just spent the entire day cleaning up all of the side quests I missed on Route A (still on Route B, enjoying the new story cutscenes). That [Character Spoiler)
Some of those side quest finishers with the music is just great at giving you the feels. There is so much hidden music in this game.
Emil Memories side quest hit me with nostalgia bombs with the Kaine theme music and I like they explain why Emil is so different here, OG Emil is somewhere out there still, hopefully. Probably all alone now though. 
Some of those side quest finishers with the music is just great at giving you the feels. There is so much hidden music in this game.
You can just do this most of the game if you practice the dodge timing a bit.
Thanks, I guess I'll take this as a lesson to play carefully.
This game will punish your ass lol.
But the combat IS sublime.I can't complain.
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
Just dodge, you can do it repeatedly and it's got hours of invincibility frames, the attacks are super slow to boot.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
How do you counter properly? I bought the chip, but I don't know how it works exactly.
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
When an attack is about to hit you tap the analog stick in the direction it's coming from. You can just hammer it, the timing is pretty much nonexistent.
Mattakuevan
Member
Really glad I just kept going after that hacking bullshit. Game immediately becomes exactly what i've been waiting for once you (route C spoilers)
Hack you way into the Tower
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Nothing more, no dodge?
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
Hot Coldman
Banned
Finished Route A tonight and got back to the desert in Route B. Once you get the counter this really feels up there with Revengeance in terms of combat, which is what I was hoping for - all it's really missing is a unique mechanic like Zandatsu or Witch Time. I guess that'd be the pod, maybe, but I really need to mess around with upgrading and customising that more. Sadly, Route B changes the combat in a way that I'm not feeling too great about...
...if the story is going where I think it's going, though, I'm happy to play on. Everything about it feels great so I'm definitely happy with what I've played so far. The bosses are brilliant. Any time there's an enemy spewing out bullet spirals and I'm jumping and dodging through them I'm in love. Even the RPG stuff is good.
Question:
...if the story is going where I think it's going, though, I'm happy to play on. Everything about it feels great so I'm definitely happy with what I've played so far. The bosses are brilliant. Any time there's an enemy spewing out bullet spirals and I'm jumping and dodging through them I'm in love. Even the RPG stuff is good.
Question:
the gold robots in Route B in the city, you're supposed to run into those before entering the desert camp I'm guessing?
That's in there. You should have access to that chip by now.
Hot Coldman
Banned
You talking about the one where time slows down when you get close to bullets? Because that's not exactly Witch Time - if there's one that slows down time when you dodge, then whew I need to find that.
It's Overclock, the best chip evah
Hot Coldman
Banned
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck I hope I can get this right now in Route B
Find Emil around the city. He sells it to you. He seems to always be first met near the end of the city, around near the save point where the Desert Zone begins, where Jackass is.
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
He's got a store. After you meet him on A & B he's endlessly driving in a circle around the desert camp blasting annoying music, pretty hard to miss. He also appears on the map
Oh damn, I need to find this.
Wait so this isn't actually a long action RPG with several quests and all as I imagined it would be but rather an average length action game that requires you to go over the same stuff again with a different perspective once you are done and you get new stuff once in a while.
This is basically what DMC4 (and MGS5's chapter 2 to an extent) did, people criticised that aspect of those game and called it lazy level design/unfinished, but it's ok with this game ?
The story had me sort of intrigued but I'm not sure if I can go through all those events again multiple times just to get more cutscenes.
This is basically what DMC4 (and MGS5's chapter 2 to an extent) did, people criticised that aspect of those game and called it lazy level design/unfinished, but it's ok with this game ?
The story had me sort of intrigued but I'm not sure if I can go through all those events again multiple times just to get more cutscenes.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Brilliant, I'll keep an eye out.
To be clear, I did not meet in the actual desert part. Just close to the outskirts of the city where the sand begins.
Yay!
As for me, I died once in Hard, and immediately changed it to Normal. Wasn't dealing with that BS. And some advice, don't be so frugal and just stock up on potions. Had a few times where I went too long without having any curatives and made the boss fights unnecessarily harder on myself.
... But it is a long action RPG with several quest. 40 hours in atm.
I only just now finished Route B, but the repeated content there isn't that bad. There's a lot of new sidequest, some which are pretty significant, and there's a lot of new story content as well. I imagine the future routes will be mainly new content.
No, this is
mostly
That could explain it, thanks! I never went into the desert area much.
Is he still there on C? I have an old save file on B to run back and check, but I wanna visit our old friend.
This is how I survived.
I used healing items liberally.I was doing exactly that at first,trying to save on items unnecessarily.
I recommend at least beating the second play through. Since it saves your quests, gear, and items, you can just stick to the main story and have it done pretty quick. The first ending didn't hit me at all. I was really underwhelmed.
By the end of the 2nd play through I was intrigued more, and C really opened up in a new way.
Freezasaurus
Member
So how many times do you actually have to play through the game to get all of the endings? I just started today after finishing Horizon last night.
More_Badass
Member
The combat is really fun, and the overall concept (
endless war between machines, where some machines are developing sentience
But the actual characters and their stories are just ridiculous nonsense that I don't care about. To be fair, I expect ridiculous over-the-top nonsense from Japanese games that aren't Soulsborne, but given the praise, I had hoped for a more interesting story.
I'll stick with it though
5 for the real endings. In total, most people are finishing it in 5-55 hours.
There quite a few joke endings too.
Freezasaurus
Member
Sounds like it has some longevity to it. I'll have to take a break next week for Mass Effect, but I'll definitely pick it up again after.