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[nikos]

So I made an interesting decision in my third playthrough. Wonder what's going to happen. Spoilers below.

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When Pascal asked me to kill it, or wipe its memories, I ended up walking out the door. It said something like "you aren't just going to leave me like this, are you?" I did. The trophy still popped indicating I granted its last wish. I'm assuming the game will treat it as if I wiped its memories.

 

[MultiJhonny]

So I made an interesting decision in my third playthrough. Wonder what's going to happen. Spoilers below.

Spoiler

When Pascal asked me to kill it, or wipe its memories, I ended up walking out the door. It said something like "you aren't just going to leave me like this, are you?" I did. The trophy still popped indicating I granted its last wish. I'm assuming the game will treat it as if I wiped its memories.

report back. i am curious what will happen

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go visit him in his village and we should have the answer.

 

[Mattakuevan]

So I made an interesting decision in my third playthrough. Wonder what's going to happen. Spoilers below.

Spoiler

When Pascal asked me to kill it, or wipe its memories, I ended up walking out the door. It said something like "you aren't just going to leave me like this, are you?" I did. The trophy still popped indicating I granted its last wish. I'm assuming the game will treat it as if I wiped its memories.

Oh whoa. Yeah, let us know what happens.

 

[OniBaka]

Finished Route C:

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What the hell do the Camouflage Goggles do? Also, what was that message about a topic to talk about at the Resistance Camp about?

It gets rid of the blind fold,it's just cosmetics.

 

[The perfect Dark]

Just wait to do the side quests until

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fast travel

is available.

I don't really get how this game is ruined by having a connected world. Some of the world seems a bit bland but lots of it is quite nice to look at.

When do you unlock

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fast travel

?

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Route B

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playing as 9S, who is actually a solid fellow

is better than I expected. The

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hacking is indeed very powerful, makes one lazy in taking out larger enemies compared to 2B extended dancing and slicing

. I'd still rather be doing the latter as it is more fun in action and visuals, but this is not too bad especially with how things change up on routes.

Experiment with d

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ifferent weapons as he has a few different charge attacks. Also his dash attack differs depending on when you attack after the dash. Launcher is Jump > immediate Attack, Helm Breaker is double jump Attack.

Attack immediately after dashing will you get a good combo for single targets. Attacking a couple seconds after dash will get this attack where he throws out his sword that will go through multiple enemies, however because of this it isn't recommended as it will only hit the first enemy once or twice. I've seen videos of people spamming his long dash attack repeatedly and wondering why they are doing low damage so make sure you are not doing that against single targets.

If you like experimenting with different combos I'd recommend only using the hacking when required for the story or against a few choice enemies in the game that have absurdly high defense since it deals a ton of damage and imo it's more fun to use your weapons.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

though the "che guevarra parafernalia" joke by whomever was cute, reading through the license stuff was not really worth it

 

[Veritigo_X]

though the "che guevarra parafernalia" joke by whomever was cute, reading through the license stuff was not really worth it

?

I think I missed this?

 

[nikos]

report back. i am curious what will happen

Spoiler

go visit him in his village and we should have the answer.

Oh whoa. Yeah, let us know what happens.

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Went back as 9S. Don't see Pascal in the usual spot. Wondering if I should load a previous save. :/

Edit: Checking the factory.
Edit 2: Gone.

Should I load a previous save? As far as I know, Pascal would've opened a shop.

 

[Arkeband]

This game has no right to be open world.
The world design is terrible (lots of blocked roads and invisible walls), most of the side quests are abysmal and the back tracking feels really bad because the world is so boring and ugly.
The combat itself is great and I like the animations. This game should be linear, imo. For me this is another game destroyed by the open world concept.
Huge disappointment so far.

Having a connected world map is not automatically 'open world' for the reasons you stated.

So you're right, this game has no right to be open world.

And it's not.

 

[MultiJhonny]

Spoiler

Went back as 9S. Don't see Pascal in the usual spot. Wondering if I should load a previous save. :/

Edit: Checking the factory.
Edit 2: Gone.

Should I load a previous save? As far as I know, Pascal would've opened a shop.

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i think he might have just disappeared for good. hmmmm

 

[The perfect Dark]

Having a connected world map is not automatically 'open world' for the reasons you stated.

So you're right, this game has no right to be open world.

And it's not.

Then this game has no right to be a connected world map. The concept and overall design doesn't work. It doesn't make the game better, imo.

 

[theangrypirate]

When do you unlock

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fast travel

?

It was about 8 hours in for me

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It's after you fight a Goliath in the city ruins causing an explosion that reveals and undergound space ship. To get out you have to transport from a save point and from then on you can fast travel from save point to save point. The fast travel

really makes the side missions go from feeling like a chore to being fun.

 

[nikos]

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i think he might have just disappeared for good. hmmmm

I have a save from an hour ago. I don't think I can leave things like this, though I'm tempted to roll with it and see if something happens later on.

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Are the items in his shop important?

 

[Veritigo_X]

Then this game has no right to be a connected world map. The concept and overall design doesn't work. It doesn't make the game better, imo.

It just sounds like you want a completely different game.

 

[plasmawave]

Playing Route B and things are definitely getting weirder.

 

[BakedTanooki]

Finished Route "A" after 21 Hours, and started the next route immediately. It's so good. Can not wait for all the crazy upcoming things and events.

 

[LotusHD]

Then this game has no right to be a connected world map. The concept and overall design doesn't work. It doesn't make the game better, imo.

I still don't get what "has no right" means, but alright. Just stick to saying you don't like it lol

Playing Route B and things are definitely getting weirder.

Yep.

 

[Rezae]

Finished Route A last night. Jumping right back in tonight.

Agree with the open world discussions - I think this game would be a better experience if it was more linear. Love the combat and most mechanics, but not a fan of running around a mostly dull overworld.

 

[ZangBa]

I personally loved the world. It's not too big, not too small, just the perfect size for me. I loved the look of everything and maneuvering around never felt like a chore to me because I loved the controls and speed.

 

[LotusHD]

Finished Route A last night. Jumping right back in tonight.

Agree with the open world discussions - I think this game would be a better experience if it was more linear. Love the combat and most mechanics, but not a fan of running around a mostly dull overworld.

It's a shame too, because the androids run fast as fuck, and have a whole verticality to them through their double jumps and what not. But in the end, it's not enough to have me not think that it is tedious. Fortunately, it has a bunch of quirks that it does very well, such as the camera angles changing, which allows it to carve its own niche and let me be a lot more forgiving towards its world. Neither is it one of those open worlds that is clearly going for scale and size, meaning it could've been a lot worse lol

 

[freeofgreed]

Any one else get weird audio desynching issues during cut scenes? Really ruins some moments ;/

 

[The perfect Dark]

It was about 8 hours in for me

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It's after you fight a Goliath in the city ruins causing an explosion that reveals and undergound space ship. To get out you have to transport from a save point and from then on you can fast travel from save point to save point. The fast travel

really makes the side missions go from feeling like a chore to being fun.

Thanks!!

It just sounds like you want a completely different game.

Maybe you're right. I just don't think the concept of this game works at all.

I still don't get what "has no right" means, but alright. Just stick to saying you don't like it lol



Yep.

"has no right" means that it shouldn't be open world (or a connected map) because this design decision stands in contrast with the great parts of the game (combat, animations, boss fights). It's tedious to walk around this map, so the pacing of the game suffers.

 

[BRSxIgnition]

The 3+ Disc OST is still available for purchase on Amazon JP, right?

 

[Hektor]

The 3+ Disc OST is still available for purchase on Amazon JP, right?

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B01LTI9I72/

Yep

 

[Crayon]

There's definitely quiet time while you run 75mph towards the next objective but I find it deliberate and well considered. I don't think I was ever running somewhere (2-3 minutes at a time on the long side, mind you.) and not reflecting on whatever the hell just happened. Never feels too big.

 

[MultiJhonny]

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B01LTI9I72/

Yep

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

 

[Jiraiza]

The 3+ Disc OST is still available for purchase on Amazon JP, right?

Pretty hype for the special disc that should contain the 8-bit songs.

 

[LotusHD]

"has no right" means that it shouldn't be open world (or a connected map) because this design decision stands in contrast with the great parts of the game (combat, animations, boss fights). It's tedious to walk around this map, so the pacing of the game suffers.

I mean I guess. Well anyways, there's fast travel, so not all bad.

There's definitely quiet time while you run 75mph towards the next objective but I find it deliberate and well considered. I don't think I was ever running somewhere (2-3 minutes at a time on the long side, mind you.) and not reflecting on whatever the hell just happened. Never feels too big.

Another thing that helps is the music, especially when it changes up on you.

 

[AgentLampshade]

Where the hell do you get combat bracers? About 1/4 of the way through route B and I've just realized they're the only weapons I haven't tried.

 

[ubersticky]

Does this game crash for you guys with beast mode activated?

 

[OniBaka]

Does this game crash for you guys with beast mode activated?

Not one crash for me and I got all main endings.

 

[LotusHD]

Where the hell do you get combat bracers? About 1/4 of the way through route B and I've just realized they're the only weapons I haven't tried.

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There's one in the resistance camp. You hack the box open to get it. Another one in the Amusement Park basement or w/e, where the TVs are. You also hack to get it. There are others, but yea.

 

[Naite]

Managed to get 100% on everything but the fish. I don't think I have it in me to get every single type of fish.

 

[Crayon]

Does this game crash for you guys with beast mode activated?

On a regular ps4, I had several crashes with the demo and one crash so far with the final.

 

[AgentLampshade]

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There's one in the resistance camp. You hack the box open to get it. Another one in the Amusement Park basement or w/e, where the TVs are. You also hack to get it. There are others, but yea.

Ah, so THAT'S what those were! Thanks.

 

[chefbags]

Just finished route A. 25 hrs in and lvl 30. The ending

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was some dark af shit for a moment until 9s came back.

The Japanese VA deserves some applause cause they're so good. Now on to route b!

Would like to note that the boss fights are so good in this game. That even while I'm at normal they keep me on edge the whole time. Good shit Yoko Taro!

And also music is God tier lol.

 

[LotusHD]

Ah, so THAT'S what those were! Thanks.

You're welcome!

Just finished route A. 25 hrs in and lvl 30. The ending

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was some dark af shit for a moment until 9s came back.

The Japanese VA deserves some applause cause they're so good. Now on to route b!

Would like to note that the boss fights are so good in this game. That even while I'm at normal they keep me on edge the whole time. Good shit Yoko Taro!

And also music is God tier lol.

I agree. I have a few chips that do their best to invalidate the challenge they provide, but nah, they're still pretty tough tbh

At the very least, it's fun attempting to continue to master your skills when fighting them, and taking as little damage as possible. And they're all appropriately epic, especially due to the music.

 

[Xliskin]

Am I the only one who impressed of how the areas connected together this is the most Dark souls thing I have seen in this game

 

[Dangerous1992]

Managed to get 100% on everything but the fish. I don't think I have it in me to get every single type of fish.

what is in the Novel section exactly? i did finish the game with the true ending, but i'm curious to know whats left there.

 

[Squire]

A2's boost mode skill is awesome in theory, but in practice all it does is get you killed. Wastes your healing items too.

Any other cool stuff she can do other than Boost, taunt, and the long sway dodge?

Huh? What's this?

 

[ramyeon]

Where the hell do you get combat bracers? About 1/4 of the way through route B and I've just realized they're the only weapons I haven't tried.

I have a few and I'm still in Route A.

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There's one on a hidden elevated area in the Forest Zone.

And two others I bought from Emil's shop.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

Did ending Y

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I finally got to kill Emil, thank god.

It didn't give me the trophy though and I didn't feel like doing the fight a third time

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(fr why you gonna make me fail the fight to get the ending, then do it again to finish the quest)

so I just bought it.

 

[MultiJhonny]

I have a save from an hour ago. I don't think I can leave things like this, though I'm tempted to roll with it and see if something happens later on.

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Are the items in his shop important?

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to upgrade weapons yes

 

[LotusHD]

Am I the only one who impressed of how the areas connected together this is the most Dark souls thing I have seen in this game

The areas are pretty cool.

Huh? What's this?

It's just her dodge, though it seems to have a longer distance (though I had chips equipped, so idk, although they doesn't work as well for 9S) and leaves a skid mark.

 

[Arkeband]

Any one else get weird audio desynching issues during cut scenes? Really ruins some moments ;/

Are you sure it's desync and not just the lip sync not being matched to English audio?

 

[hydrophilic attack]

?

I think I missed this?

on the boot screen, in "licenses" below "new game", one of the programmers that made some of the code they are using made a silly joke

 

[Naite]

what is in the Novel section exactly? i did finish the game with the true ending, but i'm curious to know whats left there.

In route C

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speak to Anemone as A2 and exhaust her dialogue. She'll direct you to a console that explains their past. The rest is earned from the main story

 

[Augemitbutter]

is there anything that makes those special treasure chests appear on radar? i can finally open them but i can't remember all of their locations.

 

[Levito]

How long would route C run if you just did the main story? I just started it last night, curious to see how much I have left.