I remember reading it not hearing it, when you play as 9s and
get captured by Adam it will be the text base.
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NieR: Automata |OT| "I wouldn't expect too much from this game if I were you."
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Demoskinos
Member
I think you are on the right track here. It seems natural to feel uncomfortable with the idea of replaying the game and that's part of the fun. It is kind of like a visual novel structure. It's the first time I've seen a traditional action rpg like this do it. The combat and rpg systems are somewhat freeform. The difficulty is easily throttled. I think there is a lot going on that emphasizes the storytelling. The storytelling is the most important aspect of the game and the weirdly misleading multiple playthrough system is chosen for a reason even if the exact reason is unclear.
For me personally, the second playthrough is doing a lot to make me feel different about the whole game and my perception of the characters. I think it's art. And successful art. It's evoking the emotional response in a somewhat reliable way. It gets into your head and you think about it. Not just fantasize about it like: "oh I'd rather be playing nier than be at school". Really think about it like: "I think this is trying to say something about the world we live in". It's very stimulating.
Even some of the side quests have some real gut punch moments. It plays around with the themes of love/death and the meaning of being human but in ways that don't feel trite. And boy has it just wormed its way directly into my brain over this last week.
About to meet
, feels like i'm close to the end.
Immediately found it lol, thanks!
So, in other Routes i won't miss anything right? Shops, NPCs, quests etc.,?
Pascal at the factory
Immediately found it lol, thanks!
So, in other Routes i won't miss anything right? Shops, NPCs, quests etc.,?
Trickster
Member
Does this apply to all the routes?
You'll see.
Tomeru
Member
Didn't play the demo...
And I didn't even know what my pod could do. I've been playing it handicapped for the past 2 hours, never figuring out why this game is hard....
The worst introduction I've ever had with a game. What kind of a tutorial doesn't tutor?
Trickster
Member
Its ok.
I died twice and raged at the tutorial.
Down on the d-pad opens up the healing items menu(you can heal at any time) ,and the game never really has sequences as long as this without checkpoints later on.
Just play through it, why would you want to spoil yourself.
Tomeru
Member
I dies atleast 10 times!
So I thought heck, lets see how other people play it. Maybe I'm playing it wrong. Turns out I am playing it wrong. The pod can shoot!
Also, for some reason I never thought about trying to pause during a fight. I always paused it during cutscenes, so I didn't know that I had access to items!
This games made me lose any self confidence I had as a gamer before...
zombieshavebrains
I have not used cocaine
I feel the same way. If you wanted to shoot and dodge for 45 min to beat something you could. But where is the fun in that.
Shooting is so pointless I usually forget to even use it. Or the other choice is to hold a button down the entire time you want to do melee. It wasn't well thought out.
Sumio Mondo
Member
I feel that this OST has more ambient tunes that are more subtle in their approach to composition, whereas NieR's OST had more dramatic crescendos in its compositions. Also, there seems to be more variety to Automata's OST whereas NieR's was pretty much set on being a vocal soundtrack, Automata has music that builds up more gradually. I like them both equally, to be honest but feel that NieR's had more of an impact just due to it being first (not just a nostalgia thing, just never heard anything like it before). I prefer the boss themes in the original more overall, I think, same goes for the field themes and town themes. I prefer the combat themes and cutscene music in Automata. They're both great to listen to though. Maybe i should hold off for a more thorough assessment as a standalone listen outside the game too since i can just listen to NieR's OST for days and never get sick of it and haven't since 2010 when I first got the soundtrack after beating the original game.
I'm really looking forward to that soundtrack release that I pre-ordered, out in a week's time! Going to be so good.
It doesn't tell you that it can shoot? Swore it did...
Maybe I just looked at the controls and just put 2 and 2 together lol
I dunno why so many of y'all like having to answers to stuff you'll find out naturally, but:
Yes you will.
I don't see how it's pointless when it literally lets you kill things faster lol
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Route C is so much what the fuck right now I can't even comprehend and had to stop.
trailmix16
Member
honest question, are we doing spoilers in here? people straight up talking about the
in ending b
pov change
People aren't really supposed to be spoiling that, but for whatever reason, it's one of the few things people are pretty lax about in this OT lol
You said you've played on hard,that makes sense.
Hard mode is really unbearably hard in this game.You cant even lock on.
I tried but immediately switched to Normal,its not for me.
Tomeru
Member
It tells me I can shoot when I'm in einheander mode. From here to figuring out it can shoot everywhere else? Didn't have a clue. I'm all for figuring stuff alone, but not this stuff. Combos and such are one thing, but figuring out a "new" button is something else.
The tutorial is not done well at all.
This game is really one of those things where I feel like the GIT GUD sensibility of design is in conflict with actual good game design.
The opening sequence is a good indication of this primarily because of a bunch of things:
-I'm not sure the game introduces an organic manner in which you're suppose to know that you can heal (assuming you're not playing on Very Hard or raging at OHKO on Hard) and what needs to be done in order to heal
-The game vaguely tells you that the actual game will teach you how to save, but does not indicate that this shit will happen after a 30 minute to 1 hour long sequence... so, naturally, everyone is just angry when they're booted out to the fucking main title where you have to suffer a bunch of non gameplay bullshit, like loading screens
-The game tells you that it doesn't autosave, you assume there are no checkpoints, but there actually are... and when you do experience a good checkpoint, you assume that there are more of these, but then you get hit with a completely miserable checkpoint whose design makes no sense
If anything, it's a unique experience... but I'm very weary about a lot of the game design choices despite knowing that it's suppose to be eccentric.
keep playing.
I dunno why they made it harder than the demo, it was perfect the way it was.
Heh, no lies there.
Well like I said, it is right there in the Controls, so it's not exactly difficult to figure out imo
But I'm admittedly biased, I played the demo multiple times, so I figured this all out, and mapped my custom controls, quite awhile ago.
Lmao that was one of the best ones
Yabberwocky
Member
I'm spending time catching up on side-quests, and I'm finding I'm alternating between these reactions by the end of them:
or
I had a good cackle at
The ending to the stamp side-quest goes down as one of the GOATs in gaming.
It's kind embarrassing to ask, but does anyone else have a constant problem where they're trying to click on an item or whatever, and ends up triggering 9S' combat settings instead? I feel like button prompt to click on an item is quite sensitive instead of being quite generous, so I've sometimes had the problem where I've had to manoeuvre 2B around a bit to get her into a position to click on an item. (I don't really have this problem picking up gold items whilst running around in the world, it's just more context sensitive interaction on a chest or something.)
or
I had a good cackle at
Lost Little Sister tormenting 9S over how children are made. 2B's just 'nope'.
The ending to the stamp side-quest goes down as one of the GOATs in gaming.
It's kind embarrassing to ask, but does anyone else have a constant problem where they're trying to click on an item or whatever, and ends up triggering 9S' combat settings instead? I feel like button prompt to click on an item is quite sensitive instead of being quite generous, so I've sometimes had the problem where I've had to manoeuvre 2B around a bit to get her into a position to click on an item. (I don't really have this problem picking up gold items whilst running around in the world, it's just more context sensitive interaction on a chest or something.)
Trickster
Member
Alright thanks.
I'm just too impatient to wait x amount of playthroughs to find out about that one specific part, since I've enjoyed that in route A
Unrelated. If I found normal to be quite easy on the first playthrough, would upping the difficulty be advisable ?
Edit - also random note, It's really frustrating that even after "completing" the game, I still can't risk reading all the things that are marked in spoilers in this thread lol
You could always try it out and then change back if it's too hard? Just saying haha.
Um, if you really want to play on Hard, I'd advise you to make sure you have good chips. Like it's pretty imbalanced in terms of how damage everything does, so naturally you'd want to attempt to offset that through defensive chips, ones that auto-heal you or heal you when you attack/kill machines, etc.
Get that in order, then try it out.
Don't worry, one day you'll beat the game, and get to comfortably observe everyone going through the motions, and get excited when they reach the best parts lol
Sure, just remember you can't lock on in hard.
Also I recommend not coming here until you beat the whole game.
just be ready to really customize and optimize your chips as well as upgrade your weapons, cause hard can blindside you if your not prepared. It took me a bit before i was able to attempt hard, but once i switched, and properly adjusted, it was managable
And yeah, if your gonna be shooting, learn to aim. Especially at the flying worms, worst enemy in the game on hard
Trickster
Member
Mostly asking because I have no idea if game changes at some point and the difficulty amps up.
It's not a trophy.
If it does then you can always switch back to Normal so it's pretty much a non issue.
The game does get harder in Route C, for one thing.
You can't miss any of the trophies.
Wait what? Wasnt there a "peek under the skirt 10 times" trophy?
TheSpoiler
Member
If I start up a sidequest in one route, do I have to activate it again in the next one?
If you didn't finish it, yes.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Look at a youtube video, its not easy. You need to spin her around with the camera in the right place. But dont worry, none of the trophies are missable.
Don't read this spoiler until you've gotten all of the endings:
I love the fact that fans are picking up on this early on
Audioboxer
Member
Engels: Please visit me again.
No problem bro :'( Poor chap is bored with nothing to do.
My mistake, must have read it wrong.
TheSpoiler
Member
Fucking yesssss this game is so great. I didn't want to have to talk to the people over and over again. Makes doing them on the next routes a lot easier I'd imagine.