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NieR: Automata |OT| "I wouldn't expect too much from this game if I were you."
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OniBarubary
Banned
Oh ho ho boy. My son, let us introduce you to a wondrous world.
It means the game has a lot of PLOT.
Isaac Otherworld
Member
Nier actually has a story to tell, character's with arcs and motivations and is internally consistent, so it quite different then Dark Souls.
NieR's story is told very differently than Dark Souls. I think it has more in common with Neon Genesis Evangelion in terms of story telling than Dark Souls.
It just means that 2B has a nice ass.
Nier actually has a story to tell, character's with arcs and motivations and is internally consistent, so it quite different then Dark Souls.
Yes, but it's still very far from up-front narration of all other mainstream games. Nier buries a lot of subtle but quite important things in item descriptions and additional material, which is very Souls-like.
Isaac Otherworld
Member
NieR Automata literally throws an encyclopedia at you explain very clearly what the hell is going on. Thats as unsouls like as it gets.
Nier's OST is amazinger, just sayin'
Isaac Otherworld
Member
It's menu->Intel->Archives->Machine Research Report
Sequential.
It's not too Japanese but it's pretty complex as far as sci-fi game narratives go.
Oh right this one, yeah that suffices for the main plot but there's a lot of side stuff it doesn't cover. I'll admit Nier eventually drops the curtains and lets you see behind the scenes which is a lot more than Souls ever did.
I mean, anything else wouldn't even make sense. Would be like quitting FFVII after CD1 (EDIT: Okay, maybe not the best example as most of the heaviest stuff happens in CD1 already) or Wild Arms after its fake credits during the funeral a few hours in
The backstory is where it's really at.
PeterVenkman
Member
Trying this on platinum's cred alone, and I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. I'll give it some more time to see if it clicks. Out of curiosity - normal or hard? Omission of lock on seems...interesting? To be perfectly honest normal was a cake walk and on hard I am being one shotted.
Radical Edward
Member
The game's biggest weakness is that there isn't a difficultly between Normal and Hard.
PeterVenkman
Member
Hm I'll try hard then-at least I can switch on the fly.
I'd be fine with hard if the game didn't waste my time so much in between deaths. I just died and respawned ages away. I have to manually confirm a message each time. Really? Then I thought oh shit now I have to fight all these enemies again. But they didn't respawn - why the hell do I have to walk all the way back? Why not just put a vending machine there? Why do I stop sprinting when I pass over stones and rubble?
And sheesh don't get me started on dying in the tutorial...
Guess I just really gotta look at it like a Souls game. My fault for not researching enough.
I'd be fine with hard if the game didn't waste my time so much in between deaths. I just died and respawned ages away. I have to manually confirm a message each time. Really? Then I thought oh shit now I have to fight all these enemies again. But they didn't respawn - why the hell do I have to walk all the way back? Why not just put a vending machine there? Why do I stop sprinting when I pass over stones and rubble?
And sheesh don't get me started on dying in the tutorial...
Guess I just really gotta look at it like a Souls game. My fault for not researching enough.
Not just 2B, A2 as well.
Stop looking at it as a souls game and look at it like a JRPG except you have 1 chance to recover before having to reload the game. If you don't wanna fetch your body, then just load your last save like you'd normally do in any other JRPG.
The tripping is a Yoko Taro thing, as is the sliding in the desert/tunnels. You can avoid the tripping most of the time (avoids un-even debris) and the bushes while running will break your sprint so just go around them. As for the sliding...there's no way to by-pass that. Sliding is life, better get used to it.
As for the dying in-game, as mentioned above, just treat it like a JRPG. Personally, I saved frequently so anytime I died I'd just re-load my save. It didn't happen much, since I played on Normal my first time through, but mistakes did happen.
PeterVenkman
Member
Alright, I'll start saving all day every day.
Also might have not realized that I was picking up so many valuable chips - I thought everything I was picking up was a temporary boost. Just cleared the desert, I'll run back and upgrade my storage space.
Also might have not realized that I was picking up so many valuable chips - I thought everything I was picking up was a temporary boost. Just cleared the desert, I'll run back and upgrade my storage space.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Did he say something about it in an interview?
I want to say he did, but I can't recall.
For some reason, the moment I first tripped in-game, as well as slid to all hell in the desert area, the first thing that came to my mind was "classic Yoko Taro!". I'm not sure if the reason I came to that conclusion was because I read about it earlier in an interview as a thing he included for no reason, or if it's just something I expected from him. Either way, none of them personally bothered me.
To add to this (you probably know this anyway), but once you unlock the vending machines, you can save outside of them, as long as you're in-range of them. It'll appear on-screen, whether you can quick-save or not. Given how the vending machines are placed, once you unlock a number of them (as well as the range themselves being decent), you should find yourself being able to quick-save pretty often, even when you're out doing side-quests or whatever.
xmajinjoshx
Member
I am so glad I decided to continue playing after ending [A].
Isaac Otherworld
Member
I've almost done all the side quests for the sake of doing all the side quests and filling up the Unit Entry data-log is super daunting. I'm not even sure where to start.
Also I'm still listening to the OST and I think this is one of the most understated and emotionally evocative songs in the ost. I know that for a side area leading to
isn't super eventful or full of dialogue, but it had a real effect on me. I don't think I've ever heard a more lonely sounding song.
NieR Automata OST - Blissful Death
Also I'm still listening to the OST and I think this is one of the most understated and emotionally evocative songs in the ost. I know that for a side area leading to
Emil's House
NieR Automata OST - Blissful Death
http://gematsu.com/2017/04/nier-aut...pments-commemoration-live-stream-set-april-17
Stream to commemorate 1 million shipments.
Stream to commemorate 1 million shipments.
Yeah, it's amazing.
I literally just finished listening to Disc 2 again. Damn, when Marina Kawano starts crying near the end of Weight of the World...ugh. It gets me every time. ;_;
Astrael
Member
I love that track, too. It plays another time
(I think during one of the VN-style sections? I really need to do another playthrough soon)
Honestly the more mellow tracks like this, like the Bunker background music, too, I could leave on loop forever and never get tired of it.
Any side quests you fully completed will keep their progress.
Good deal, I don't think I lost too much progress, then.
Rather than think of them as endings they are actually Acts.
You're not alone there.
It made the area feel not just lonely, but extremely creepy. Like if I had gone in there blind and not know what to expect (Hell even despite me knowing), I'd be a little frightened to venture further. Just felt so ominous to me.
BRSxIgnition
Member
When I think about it, Jackass reminds me a lot of Kainé. The way she talks
is really aggressive, just like her. I wouldn't be surprised if she had screamed "Weiss you dumass" out of nowhere.
I wish the game had more development for her. Hell, having her as an ally or playable character would have been great.
especially in the last file from ending C
I wish the game had more development for her. Hell, having her as an ally or playable character would have been great.
I'm low-key mad that she didn't get any concept art at the very least. In terms of prominence, she was up there imo, so it would've been nice to see
His Majesty
Banned
The song in Pascal's Village is amazing.
theangrypirate
Member
Finished C, D and E tonught. What a ride. I'm really happy this game sold well. I want to see what Yoko can do with a bigger budget. This is definitely in my top 3 ps4 games. I'm heading over to the spoilers forum now.
Man I really feel like even though I spent 40 hours in this game there's so much lore I'm missing in the weapon stories/intel etc. I don't necessarily feel I have the emotional connection some people do because I didn't make the same connections on a lot of stuff? For example, I did 2B's sidequest about 6O, but not 9S's about 21O. I really want to go back and discover more cause I have a lot of questions, but I also have Persona now and
I sacrificed my save :'(
Yes.
killatopak
Gold Member
I think I'm gonna make a new playthrough on hard and opt not to play p5. Gonna wait for the guides and 100% s.links to drop.
Excited to help everybody in the world for this playthrough.
Excited to help everybody in the world for this playthrough.
So I'm getting stuck on one of the first missions
Is there anything else I can do to get that stupid item?
when you have to get the stuff for one of the traders in the resistance base... I need the Small Gear and it just plain never drops. I keep going back to the place that it directs me to, but the enemies never drop the item I need. I do now have two of everything else I need though :-/
Is there anything else I can do to get that stupid item?
killatopak
Gold Member
Sometimes the quest items aren't dropped by enemies but are already spawned items on the ground.