SaniOYOYOY
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there is this something about 2b that just work so well.
i really need explanation on why 2b is just better than a2 hha
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NieR: Automata |OT| "I wouldn't expect too much from this game if I were you."
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there is this something about 2b that just work so well.
The issue being that a lot of people probably got on board the hype train for different reasons and are now coming back down to earth. A readjustment of realistic expectations.
This is a Yoko Taro game first and foremost afterall. Does not mean the game is not great in the ways expected for Yoko Taro. Yeah the game is on a budget obviously, but it will exceed the sum(pun intended) of its parts without a doubt as the biggest Yoko Taro game ever, and most polished without a doubt.
And this game isn't even 10%-20% budget of FFXV. LOL
Yu Miyake "Muwahahaah, eat my short, Division 1 and 2!"
Very few people understand or appreciate great weird arts or concept, but some also trapped in elite theorism for liking hipster games.
Yu Miyake "Muwahahaah, eat my short, Division 1 and 2!"
Very few people understand or appreciate great weird arts or concept, but some also trapped in elite theorism for liking hipster games.
The hype train was laden down with Platinum fanboys who STILL didn't understand what they were going to get. I constantly talked to people who thought this was going to be like MGR or Bayonetta all over the internet.
I'm coming into this with my expectations set at "Drakengard 3 or better." Apparently, it far, far surpasses my expectations, even though I loved D3.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
I hope you didn't literally just watch the endings. Route B adds a huge new element to the story that presents itself throughout the playthrough.
As for Automata, I've listed lots of problems with it previously, but I still love it so far, and I expect my fondness for it to grow as I finish the other endings.
MetalliCabombination
Member
Early to mid 70s. Ill be be happy to be proven wrong.
Offcourse there are positives, which are largely the same as nier 1 plus good combat.
Im not criticizing it, Im merely saying on surface level its not a huge upgrade from nier 1.
If people seriously think modern reviewers will disregard dated visuals, poor performance, bugs, 2b's ass and replay the story multiple t9 get the most out of it and then give a sincere impression, more power to you.
From the impressions so far the story is just as crazy and good as 1, some say its less so. Some say the music is as good as 1, some say its not. Combat is universally deemed better, but some are disappointed by the lack of the depth from other platinum titles.
Thay doesnt sound like a 20 point jump in mc scores to me.
Again, im not saying its fair, im saying its what i expect to happen when the reviews come.
Yeah...i can't say i did love D3 myself....actually going through the lore is amazing, but playing through that slog by access games..jesus. As bad as time i ran through deadly premonition on 360.
When you play games in your younger days(like i did for D1), it doesnt seem as annoying as when your a full on adult.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
The inclusion of 2B's ass in a list of otherwise valid flaws with the game is cracking me up.
You actually have to put in effort to see it
You actually have to put in effort to see it
Nightengale
Member
Automata is a very good game. I have zero qualms recommending it to anyone.
But as good as it is, I would also say the game does a poor job of masking its flaws.
Once you've come out of the demo area and go into the open world, you can see where this is Platinum's first open world game (at a budget) and in different parts of the game, where it benefits being an open world game and where you would think "if this was more linear, it would've been a lot tighter."
But as good as it is, I would also say the game does a poor job of masking its flaws.
Once you've come out of the demo area and go into the open world, you can see where this is Platinum's first open world game (at a budget) and in different parts of the game, where it benefits being an open world game and where you would think "if this was more linear, it would've been a lot tighter."
Thanks for the honest replies Inuhanyou, Kanann, and KO Traveling Hobo. I assure you my expectations and hype were in check and it looks like this is exactly what I expected it to be. I'll admit at first I had visions of grandeur of a game with DMC3 level of depths combined with the best aspects of the first game but after playing the demo very very extensively, I knew what to expect. This is still a day one buy for me but on PC, I will not put myself through framerate drops.
You are right that is what I did. I just looked up the changes in playthrough B and I admit they are pretty cool. I still stand by my suggestion that this could have been condensed into two playthroughs/endings. I honestly would have been much more likely to play two but playing so many times just seemed so daunting that I just gave up. I am sure there are many who think the same way, particularly those who work and go to school or have other time consuming obligations.
You are right that is what I did. I just looked up the changes in playthrough B and I admit they are pretty cool. I still stand by my suggestion that this could have been condensed into two playthroughs/endings. I honestly would have been much more likely to play two but playing so many times just seemed so daunting that I just gave up. I am sure there are many who think the same way, particularly those who work and go to school or have other time consuming obligations.
Aye. Honestly, I hope this isn't the last time Yoko and Platinum work together on a game, it's pretty clear they gel very well together. A third Nier (or Drakengard) could be spectacular since they can just build off what they've already done with this game and improve upon things.
Basically, pls sell well, I needs more Yoko/Platinum shenanigans.
MetalliCabombination
Member
Doesnt taking damage destroy her clothes?
Pretty sure ive seen gameplay of her running without a skirt
Oh no, I just read open world.
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You really shouldn't b trying to call flaws and predicting MC when you clearly haven't played the game.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Not sure, only time I saw it destroyed was during the post final boss cutscene and assumed it was part of that.
Only happens if you self-destruct yourself from what I've heard.
Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. The prologue definitely has a layer of polish that the rest of the game doesn't in terms of visuals and performance.
I also feel like a lot of people are going to buy this game based on the demo without knowing that it doesn't really represent the full game in terms of design and structure and are going to be super disappointed. This game was clearly made for Yoko Taro fans first and Platinum fans second.
Lol
MetalliCabombination
Member
Man some of you are way too defensive.
Im out
RyougaSaotome
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I didn't know it existed until I read this post. lol
BRSxIgnition
Member
If you have to say "I'm not trolling" before explaining yourself, then maybe you've repeated your point too bluntly and too often?
We get it, you have an issue with the performance, and it's not always 60fps buttery smooth.
That doesn't mean it's nearly as bad as you're making it out to be.
Nightengale
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BRSxIgnition
Member
It's defensive to point out that you don't know that the clothing damage occurs only when the player uses the
self-destruct
It's not 'regular' clothing damage, and occurs on other playable characters too.
I'm not being defensive it's just stupid to try and make judgements on a game you haven't played. Even the demo didn't have clothing damage like that if you didn't know even that how can you honestly criticize the rest at all?
Other people who have actually PLAYED the game are allowed to talk. I personally think it'll end up right around XV MC wise
Bayo 1 and 2 both stand at around 90 meta despite having the same FPS issues.
Especially bayo 2 which drops to low 40s and even 30s at points.
Lol. I think i know what your referring to in the desert. Yeah shit gets going.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
What are they expecting then?
Although to be honest, if after playing the demo they're expecting a semi-linear, staged action game (something like Bayonetta), then they're in for a surprise.
No amount of FPS drops will take away from the greatness that is the Automata OST.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
So, umm what open-world action rpg's run at a flawless 60fps on console so as to conform to your "standards" ?
FlutterPuffs
Member
Yeah same here.
Definitely one of my GOTY though, but it might probably just get around 80-85 in MC tops.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
This is so true.
I'm playing the game right now and I can say it's a great game but don't expect something ultra fancy like Bayonetta. It's very NieR-ish but with a much improved gameplay over the first.
Not to mention, and like what I've reiterated, this game has a feel that's more or less similar to FFXV + NieR 1.
You pretty much answered your own question.
A lot of the preview footage and trailers have presented this as another Platinum action game in the style of something like Rising or Bayonetta. I think there are going to be a good amount of people who have never played a Yoko Taro game going into this thinking it's nonstop action and they're probably going to be pretty unhappy when they find out the game isn't really that.
You make the ass come out by self-destructing. Even then, there's an item available to buy later that you can equip to remove the clothing destruction. (There's also a neat animation when equipping it)
I think eventually if you take enough damage without reloading your save you might see it naturally as I've noticed partial clothing destruction, so maybe self-destructing just immediately fulfills whatever the damage quota is, since it puts you into a limping state.
FlutterPuffs
Member
The framepacing, stuttering issues is better than Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne, so it's not really a problem.
Jawbreaker
Member
How would those who've played the game rank the OST in comparison to the first title?
BRSxIgnition
Member
Huh. Ending K. Go figure.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
going back through to clean up quests i missed and I think the Speed Star is bugged for me. I beat him to the goal but then the "can't talk to this" icon came up, then I teleported and came back and he's back at the start position and the goal ring is active, and I still can't talk to him...
aji wo kutta na
aji wo kutta na
RyougaSaotome
Member
Holy shit I just started C.
Holy shit holy shit holy shit.
Holy shit holy shit holy shit.
That credits drop as you flee the bunker.
were there hostile enemies around?
Do people who have listening to the OST in playthroughs count?
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
TissueBox
Member
I don't know if this'll be my GOTY but it is the game I waited this year for along with P5 and it turned out very strong. It is also a game that sounded conceived in a 'post your dream collab' thread and guess what, the result could've been much worse. I think even the disappointed will come out warming up to this game eventually. For some there won't be enough tea in the cup, but for others they will be entranced by the cup enough to forgive it.
YEP. See: earlier post a couple pages back where I go 'This game my god the chills', it was for this moment lol. Loved it.
YEP. See: earlier post a couple pages back where I go 'This game my god the chills', it was for this moment lol. Loved it.