Sorry didn't know it was that awful, didn't want to spoil anything to myself that's why I didn't read it.
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NieR: Automata Review Thread
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Sorry didn't know it was that awful, didn't want to spoil anything to myself that's why I didn't read it.
Thought the website was famous back in the day.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
You should really play it. It's good.
SE has been on a role lately. This definitely makes up for their piss poor showing last gen. I mean in Q42016-Q12017 we got lots of quality titles including DQB, WoFF, FFXV, SaGa Scarlet Grace, DQVIII 3DS, KH2.8, and now this.
To clarify, best new console Square Enix JRPG since FFXII going by the 90+ MC rating.
Muffin1611
Banned
Depends on the definition. Most people here probably see JRPG as genre, not as every RPG that's made in Japan. Like Dragon's Dogma, which falls into the genre of WRPG, although it was made by japanese developers.
You could probably classify Automata as action-JRPG.
hydrophilic attack
Member
i can't think of any reasonable definition where nier is a jrpg and bloodborne is not
ah, right
Sounds about right.
This reads like a product description more than anything
I sometimes have that problem with episode reviews of certain shows where it seems all they do is recap what happened.
Muffin1611
Banned
Character designs for example. Bloodborne designs are more western, while Nier designs are very japanese.
The definitions are a bit muddy, and Nier isn't the standard JRPG with it's action- and not turn-based combat, but still.
JRPGs are games like FF, Dragon Quest or Kingdom Hearts,
WRPGs are games like Witcher, Dragon Age, Dragon's Dogma and the Souls series.
Doesn't mean that japanese WRPGs aren't heavily influenced by their country of origin, they just don't quite classify as JRPG in the genre sense.
Damn, I was expecting this to end up with a MC score of 75 or something. Guess I'm gonna have to buy it now to see what all the fuss is about.
Then again I only just finished Tales of Berseria and started Horizon, only had time to play a couple of hours of Nioh, and Persona 5 comes out in four weeks. Where the hell am I supposed to find time to play all these games?
Then again I only just finished Tales of Berseria and started Horizon, only had time to play a couple of hours of Nioh, and Persona 5 comes out in four weeks. Where the hell am I supposed to find time to play all these games?
laserplane
Member
Fuckkkkk I kinda want it right now even though I was gonna wait...
I haven't even finished Nier
I haven't even finished Nier
The combat system has nothing do with this, unless you somehow think that Tales of games are WRPG and the new Shadowrun games JRPG's.
hydrophilic attack
Member
i mean, when you use "character design" as part of your video game genre definitiond, that's probably as good a sign that you need to rethink your entire genre definition paradigm
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I wouldn't play the first game based on the reception to NieR Automata had received. Platinum wasn't involved and gameplay no where near as good. Play the demo for NieR Automata instead unless you just want to experience the story.
Dragonslayer_023
Banned
Yes play the first one!
Glass Rebel
Member
Yoooo, I can go pick it up today.
On the other hand, Berserk is primarily inspired by Western history, mythology and imagery, so it's actually a comic and not a Manga.
genres are dumb all around and only born out of the silly desire to classify everything tbh
The_White_Rose
Member
Anybody know who's handling the PC port?
Platinum themselves.
Why are you guys making everything so complicated? Why can't WRPGs be RPGs in the west and JRPGs can be RPGs from Japan? Y'all are trying to create some contrived barrier and definition for each that only gets more convoluted each time it's explained, usually to keep Souls from being defined as a JRPG.
Corpsepyre
Banned
Originally Posted by Digitally Downloaded
Put simply, NieR: Automata is the greatest game ever made. Its not just that it is the deepest and most narratively potent game ever developed - and it is a truly deep narrative experience - but more than that, Yoko Taro has finally found perhaps the developer on the planet capable of doing his visionary work justice. This game is a true, genuine work of art, and anyone who wants to prove that gaming does possess an equivalent to the greatest novels, operas, theatre plays, or paintings, now has that very game to point to. Yoko Taro is gamings Shakespeare, Da Vinci, and Welles, all rolled into one.
What the fuck is this? :/
Put simply, NieR: Automata is the greatest game ever made. Its not just that it is the deepest and most narratively potent game ever developed - and it is a truly deep narrative experience - but more than that, Yoko Taro has finally found perhaps the developer on the planet capable of doing his visionary work justice. This game is a true, genuine work of art, and anyone who wants to prove that gaming does possess an equivalent to the greatest novels, operas, theatre plays, or paintings, now has that very game to point to. Yoko Taro is gamings Shakespeare, Da Vinci, and Welles, all rolled into one.
What the fuck is this? :/
Muffin1611
Banned
I didn't invent this use of the both words, but using it as country of origin thing is highly misleading in my opinion. If you used JRPG like that, people that say "Give me recommendations for JRPGs" would get games as answers that probably have nothing in common with the JRPGs they just played before and wanted more of.
The genre definition isn't perfect and waterproof, I think that it's more beneficial than the country of origin one though.
Many JRPGs tend to have turn based combat, but it's not the sole qualifying factor, you're right.
Because that definition is fucking useless.
It doesn't tell you anything about the actual content of these games.
Magic Mushroom
Member
It's too low, but yeah.
Its biggest inspiration is probably Lovecraft though.
Primethius
Banned
Neither do most definitions of JPRG, especially as it is popularly used.
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Also, hooray, Amazon won't have the game delivered today! What a fantastic service!
Yeah. When somethings definition is too broad then you cant discern anything useful from it.
For most people, JRPGs are a style of RPG popularized in japan in the 80s to 90s. It declined on the 2000s and is almost extinct in the 2010s. Taro even mentions it in his interview about how japan is starting to shift into more creative endeavors instead of doing those rpgs or trying to emulate the west.
Glass Rebel
Member
Fuck you guys for bringing the JRPG/WRPG discussion into this thread.
I agree, but it's the same for every other WRPG/JRPG definition. They should just all die and people should come up with better names for the different types of RPGs.
For example, if a WRPG can be Dragon's Dogma, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Torment, Horizon and the list goes on, you barely have anything to tie them together other than some very basic similarity in their visuals. It also tells you nothing about them. If a person likes Dragon's Dogma and asks for more games like it, would you seriously recommend Mass Effect 3? I'd recommend Devil May Cry to that person before Mass Effect or Horizon.
killatopak
Member
Aenima
Member
Bloodborne is not a JRPG. JRPG is used to classify a style of game (usually manga based character with heavy narratives RPGs), just because is an RPG game developed by a japanese team that dont make him a JRPG. Bloodborne and the Souls games has such a unique style that they are called Souls or Soulsborne games but they are action RPGs.
Because those are horrible labels. RPG and Action-RPG are all that is needed.
VanquishUK
Member
Here's to Q1 2017:
Hits, hits everywhere.
Hits, hits everywhere.
Souls is Japanese ,but for once a Japanese dev takes inspiration from a source that isnt shounen/popular teen anime.
This why those games were such a successs.I am sure Japan can put out stuff thats removed from the trappings of the anime industry.
Silent Hill was one such Japanese franchise.The devs set out to create something completely different than what you'd expect from "anime tropes the game".
Admittedly this is all too rare.Probably because coporate suits want stuff that would easily sell.8
This why those games were such a successs.I am sure Japan can put out stuff thats removed from the trappings of the anime industry.
Silent Hill was one such Japanese franchise.The devs set out to create something completely different than what you'd expect from "anime tropes the game".
Admittedly this is all too rare.Probably because coporate suits want stuff that would easily sell.8
Yeah I'm sure "not anime" is why they were successful
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I only 7 hours into Torment and I still went and bought this. My poor wallet. I think I have a problem.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
to the bolded, god yes. Calling JRPG and WRPG as genres was always dumb.
Manga is comic. The words are interchangable.
Anime and cartoon are also interchangable.
Thankfully they dont separate stuff in this bullshit way in Japan. Its just foreign anime/japan anime, western game/Japan game.