This is literally not what happens in this game.
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NieR: Automata Review Thread
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This is literally not what happens in this game.
Koutsoubas
Member
Exactly. Don't review the game until you have played all of its essential content. Like how does that inform the buyer? I don't get the logic, this is Yoko Taro game, its known fact. A journalist should know equal to what we know of how the story unfolds.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Right now the game is at a functional MC average of 90.57 - even if a new 70/100 score is added, that takes the average to 90.11.
Unless they have some crazy weight in the MC algorithm, it should be fine. (But it would really hurt the chances of a 91...)
If you really want to know... this includes heavy spoilers!!!
You play the first half of the story with one character until you reach Ending A.
Then you play the first half with another character and his viewpoints, with roughly 50% recycled content and 50% new content until you reach Ending B
Then you play the second half of the story until you reach Ending C/D/E
Then you play the first half with another character and his viewpoints, with roughly 50% recycled content and 50% new content until you reach Ending B
Then you play the second half of the story until you reach Ending C/D/E
franklyshankly
Member
Wait, so I'm expected to play the same game multiple times in a row to get the whole story?
I'm not sure I have the time or desire to do that, with all these games to play these days. I'll probably just wait for a slower time to play this one regardless.
I'm not sure I have the time or desire to do that, with all these games to play these days. I'll probably just wait for a slower time to play this one regardless.
BumperLips
Member
.. Did they just not read the message at the end?
? Or did they just misunderstand it as a standard NG+?
From the PR team
BRSxIgnition
Member
Each route gives you new mechanics, events, story, reveals, side quests, etc. The second is parallel to the first, while the third takes place afterwards.
New routes unlock upon completing the previous route.
Read the above.
We still have some other reviews I guess, like USgamer and EasyAllies.
Ben Moore seems to be enjoying the game.
It's really not.
Imagine someone just getting to ending A of Nier and saying it was only okay w/ its story. Ending B has all the context and is what gutpunches you.
Or imagine someone getting to ending A in Drakengard 3 and thinking it was kind of a boring story but the reviewer never actually got to see anything relating to accord or the other paths?
When it comes to other endings, these games don't have "extra pieces". Especially ones that don't require review. A very limited amount of research would tell any reviewer that.
Koutsoubas
Member
I see. So you play again, but it's deeper with more mechanics, attacks, gear etc.
Sounds very promising!!
Thank you
Ricerocket
Member
You're not really playing it "again" with more mechanics. The content of the game (story) is still ongoing.
BRSxIgnition
Member
This, yes.
This may be completely off topic, but this gives me hope that one day Capcom will green light a sequel to Dragons Dogma. I remember the original NieR being terribly reviewed, but then as time went on if started receiving more and more positivity and a cult following. Dragons Dogma is in a very similar position right now, if Capcom decides to improve the formula of that game, I truly believe it could become a critical and commercial hit.
Koutsoubas
Member
Dayum!! That's mental!! So you dont really finish the game at all, you just take a ''break'' lets say and then you continue.
I wonder why these guys that gave him a 7 and didnt play some more to get more answers.
It seems only natural to do so, especially if it's just a ''continue'' situation and not a playthrough from the beginning
They shouldn't call them endings.
They should call them "act 1" or "timeline A" or something less confusing.
Ending has a very specific connotation in gaming, and telling someone "but to get all the endings..." will immediately trigger the idea of playing the same game multiple times to see a different cinematic at the end.
There's a message at the end that literally says "Congratulations, you have reached the end of Route A."
I'll just link to the message, no story spoilers:
http://i.imgur.com/P9DDWn6.png
Leona Lewis
Banned
But it'll be the first review not counted as positive. The yellow, man, the yellow :-(
Tyrant Rave
Banned
It's handled much better here than in the first
Koutsoubas
Member
Yeah, but in all fairness it says ''play through again' which implies play again the same thing
That's true but they do mention that things change up pretty dramatically as you continue on, and they don't want to give a lot of things away.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Would have been better if they'd said: "load your completed save data to..." instead of "play again to..."
It literally says there are story elements and gameplay you've yet to experience
I really hope so, I really enjoyed Dragons Dogma.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
Member
According to Kotaku, this game is plagued with long loading time like The Witcher 3. I might have to opt out for the PC version if this is the case.
Koutsoubas
Member
This could mean that you will play again the same thing, but 1 or 2 cutscenes will differ because of different choices and you get 1 or 2 different weapons because of that.
The other expression would be better ''load your save and continue your journey''
BRSxIgnition
Member
I never had to wait more than 10 seconds for even the longest loading screen. (PS4 Pro)
hydrophilic attack
Member
i guess this is goodbye
Yea that's one thing I greatly disagree with. Loading times in this game is really really short, especially coming in from other big budget games. There are loads of other reasons to prefer the PC version, but I don't think the load times is one that's an issue with the PS4 version of this game.
I guess i was referring more to internet outlets and posters in general.
Yu Narukami
Member
I want to clarify that Gamekult completed multiple runs. But for them it's a negative point having to do them. They say that combat, evironments and exploration get repetitive. But they praise the different points of view.
If they actually made it
through route C and got endings C, D, and E, then I have no complaints about the review. At least since I can't read it haha.
ExitPlanetDust
Member
Not professional review related but... that 1 star Amazon US review.
Thanks /v/.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
Member
Jawbreaker
Member
It'll get included regardless. There's a review for Horizon Zero Dawn in which the reviewer didn't finish the game, too.
ExitPlanetDust
Member
Oh, lol.
The_White_Rose
Member
Thank you
BRSxIgnition
Member
After 'Gamerkult's review is added to Metacritic, further reviews need to be 85+ to maintain the 90 MC Score.
C'mon Ben, 4.5 from EZA - c'mon...
C'mon Ben, 4.5 from EZA - c'mon...
Why yes, I probably am caring about this too much.
Very happy the game is being received well. Looking forward to the experience. Haven't had to juggle a handful of interesting games at once in a long time.
Edit: The story structure sounds more like that of multiperspectivity, similar to that of Odin Sphere. The designation of ending is probably causing confusion as it's not accurate.
Main story is multiperspectivity and the other endings are more of a visual novel type branching, 'non-canon', path setup, where multiple "endings" apply more literally.
Edit: The story structure sounds more like that of multiperspectivity, similar to that of Odin Sphere. The designation of ending is probably causing confusion as it's not accurate.
Main story is multiperspectivity and the other endings are more of a visual novel type branching, 'non-canon', path setup, where multiple "endings" apply more literally.
Yea there's definitely a need for a better way of phrasing how the game works, because the whole talk of multiple endings is clearly confusing people.
It was a mistake to put credits at the end of all the routes imo. Should have just transitioned to the next route.
Long load times? nah. But maybe it's just because I've gotten used to ridiculously long times like FFXV but even then I don't remember it being that long for Nier and I'm on regular PS4.
Long load times? nah. But maybe it's just because I've gotten used to ridiculously long times like FFXV but even then I don't remember it being that long for Nier and I'm on regular PS4.
Right. You wouldn't say you beat Odin Sphere when you complete Gwendolyn's book, and from what I've read it would likewise apply here.
Spieler Eins
Member
Like reviewing a visual novel after getting one bad ending two hours in?