Ninja Gaiden II IGN review
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faberpach said:
this doesn't even make any sense. Software technology goes hand in hand with hardware. If there are performance problems, it's not the hardware's fault. The developer knew what the hardware target was when they started development.
The real answer is that the expectations of fans (namely GAF) outstrip what the hardware is capable of, and in the age of screenshot wars, developers, under pressure from publishers, target for marketability rather than performance. You can't see a frame drop in screenshots.
SonOfABeep
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Amir0x said:
playing DMC4 I felt like there were 3 options for approaching an enemy (which was most often spawned across the screen from your character)
1. run at a plodding pace towards them
2. walk at a plodding pace towards them while shooting
3. use the sword dash attack
Maybe I'm just used to ninja gaiden but having a jump that goes directly vertical rather than launching you towards the enemy with a variety of attack options in midair makes for a slow action game to me. It was the most consistent complaint for me - I really struggled to find ways to approach distant enemies quickly to keep combos going. DMC4's characters really do move slow, too. Especially when you're walking across huge expanses in the game and you can only start moving decently fast after getting an upgrade and a head start going one direction, and that resets itself if you stop again..
SonOfABeep said:
DMC is, if you know what you're doing, one of the most absurdly fast action games on the market. There's nothing slow or deliberate about it. I mean if you think it's boring or has a bad camera, that's cool. Describing it as "slow" though really makes it seem like you were just really awful at DMC, hadn't played it, or simply refused to adapt to a different type of action game after Ninja Gaiden.
SonOfABeep
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Maybe refused to adapt, but I did finish DMC4, and not on the easy mode (can't remember what those nonsense names were for the difficulties)
You did not address my concerns- just said I was wrong and it is fast. Why? What am I doing wrong in the game that I was so consistently frustrated with how slow the character moves?
You did not address my concerns- just said I was wrong and it is fast. Why? What am I doing wrong in the game that I was so consistently frustrated with how slow the character moves?
AlphaSnake
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faberpach said:
"Review" copy is what gets pressed for mass production. They're playing the same thing you are.
SonOfABeep
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Gamertag SonOfABeep - I finished it on Devil Hunter or whatever the normal mode is. Thanks for the weakest response to someone's honest concerns ever. :lol "lol u just suck"
Honestly..
Honestly..
BobTheFork
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They can't go back and fix it if reviewer found it? Is that too late?AlphaSnake said:
HocusPocus
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Sounds like an awesome game, but to be honest the IGN reviews for Xbox 360 games seem to be chock full of nitpicking and whining. Looking forward to GameTrailers, GameSpot, and 1UP's reviews.
Rapping Granny
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Every 360 owner should get this.
I wish I still had mine.
I wish I still had mine.
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AlphaSnake said:
Not necessarily. Some review sites get green copies of games and those do loader slower sometimes.
it's not like this would be the first game published by two different companies. typically the reasoning behind doing so is to bring it to multiple regions, but there's nothing (so far) that says a different publisher can't publish a ps3 version of ninja gaiden 2.Mamesj said:
depends on the details of the contract with microsoft.
Pureauthor
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Mamesj said:
Well, it doesn't work well. At absolute minimum the camera should always give you a clear view of where Ryu is, but according to the reviews sometimes it messes up to the point where it can't even do that.
The mid battle loading probably means a little hiccup sometimes,like when you ride a horse in Oblivion(not as often)but yeah in a fast paced action game like this,it can get annoying...I'm more scared of the out of screen ennemies and the camera,making this game even harder then it is...i finished the last NG on normal only and had a very hard time of it(Alma took me a month to beat,i tried her for weeks a few times a day before i beat her).
Not sure i will buy this now,maybe i'll rent it and see how hard it is first(don't feel like playing on Ninja Dog,because it will probably be too easy).
Not sure i will buy this now,maybe i'll rent it and see how hard it is first(don't feel like playing on Ninja Dog,because it will probably be too easy).
The Librarian
Banned
Still day 1 for me.
Lion Heart
Banned
_dementia said:
Guess what DMC got at IGN as well
MS Submission is all about making sure the game doesn't delete your hard drive by mistake, make your 360 blow up and stuff like that, it has nothing to do with the game's quality itself.Jide said:Hey if it passes MS submission(which isn't the hardest out the three) then its good to ship baby. It doesn't sound like something that MS would flag as a critical bug for standards.
Camera problems =
dfyb said:
There have been a few cases where a MS published exclusive game ended up on another platform with a different publisher but usually the other platform was a handheld (for example Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee on the Gameboy) or PC (Counterstrike). In Microsoft's view handhelds and PC don't compete with the Xbox. That's why there was a Blue Dragon game for the DS. AFAIK Topspin is the only exclusive Xbox game that became a PS2 game two years later.
sixteen-bit
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Eight point sevenLion Heart said:
Blimblim said:
Err in some cases it does. If a game runs at 5fps it's not going to pass Submission...
But a gameplay pause is an "issue". (But I'm sure the game probably says "now loading?") Which may or may have not been flagged by MS. But may not have been a critical bug that they saw as needed to being fixed. Anyway clearly its passed submission so it doesn't seem to be a problem. It can be fixed by a patch later I guess..
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harSon said:
That is how I look at it. Once I learned the nuisances of the camera, I was fine.
Peronthious
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Freedom = $1.05 said:FFFFFuuucccckkkk. Seems that the camera is still shit. Maybe they'll get it fixed in time for NG2B/S. More blind flying swallows FTL
Itagaki is pretty adamant that there will be no Ninja Gaiden 2: Sigma, at least not sanctioned by him. He's fairly outspoken about his hatred for Ninja Gaiden Sigma, and the PS3 in general.
Expected score but I am more surprised at the lack of hits in this thread. Only 3 pages... Anyway I am getting this game as soon as this comes out or as soon as I am done with my tests.
And for those thinking that DMC4 is "slow".
Granted that NG overall is faster than DMC, that doesn't mean much as DMC is still a pretty fast game. Also another fast game = ZOE2.
And for those thinking that DMC4 is "slow".
Granted that NG overall is faster than DMC, that doesn't mean much as DMC is still a pretty fast game. Also another fast game = ZOE2.