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Nintendo E3 2015 Event Schedule

E-phonk

Banned
SONY delivered an E3 conference full of big announcements, unfortunately some of those games are like 2 (3?) years away.

I agree, their best showings aren't coming anytimes soon.
Shenmue: they say Dec 2017, but don't be surprised if that one gets delayed since work hasn't even started
FF VII: Same, they take 1.5 - 2 years to HD'ify FF X, FF VII is a game that needs to be redone from scratch.
TLG: Q4 2016?
Horizon: Q4 2016? Seem to be a candidate for their big holiday title in '16

So while i agree these games are (potentially) great, and I look forward to some of them, we shouldn't expect to see them soon. We will be playing on the NX before some of these will get released.
 
The fact that Tropical Freeze sold terribly is what should push them away from making another.

When will this myth die? Also, they started working on their next game before Tropical Freeze was released, so no more of this crap please.

If there is no Metroid at this E3? Yeah! It will backfire in a big way. It will hurt the games too, like it hurt DKC:TF.

Laughable. Three Metroid games in a row is perfectly okay, but two DK games is a crime against humanity. Tropical Freeze was hurt by people like you who judged the game based on what it wasn't, rather than on its own merits.
 

xaszatm

Banned
Yeah, lets use some devs for something people dont clearly want anymore. That sure is smart!
Maybe close retro or start firing people there after it because DCK3R sells even worse than tropical freeze.
What a master plan that is!

Thats what I want, because I want retro to not fall apart after a disastrous election of IP like DK could be again. Im praying for nintendo to be a little smarter this time.

BTW I would love a new IP or really old ip revival into something amazing that surprises me, not even metroid prime. And Im sure the majority of people would be happy with an AAA work from a a game that is not another freaking platfomer, and much less another DK, even if its not metroid prime 4.

Your first paragraph makes no sense. EA doesn't own Retro, Nintendo does. Nintendo isn't in the habit of killing off its 1st party studios. If it was, Monolith Soft wouldn't exist, let alone make an even more ambitious sequel to a game that quite frankly didn't sell that well.

Also, yeah, I don't believe you. I not saying that YOU will complain, but there will be a thread dedicated to complaining about how it isn't Metroid Prime 4. in fact, if it isn't a "dark" "western-type" game, there will be a complaint thread how Nintendo is wasting its western studios skills. If it IS a dark western-type game, then people will have a complain thread how its not Metroid Prime 4.

Also, nice to see you took insult to the word petty, because that is what this is. Petty. We're arguing whether or not a game Retro, which by all accounts have only made games they want to make, deserves to exist at all. If you don't like the game, don't buy it. No one's forcing you. Retro will continue to make games because Nintendo isn't EA and life will go on. Calm down.
 

phanphare

Banned
Exactly. Nintendo are unlikely to even show what they have in the pipeline for late 2016, let alone after that. Couple that with the lack of 3rd party support and I predict a fairly lean event with maybe 1 or 2 nice surprises, possibly a big reveal for Retro studios, and a lot of Amiibo talk/Indie content/virtual console stuff. Plus at least 40% focused on 3DS.

well as always it should be noted that Nintendo does Directs all throughout the year so they don't really need to show anything beyond late 2016. not really sure how that's a bad thing haha.
 

Boney

Banned
Most are going to be disappointed, regardless of what happens. Just give me my Miyamoto directed, PlatinumGames developed, StarFox please.
This would be such a train wreck. I imagine Miyamoto's disgusted face when trying to play W101. It's just so far removed from his gaming ethos
When will this myth die? Also, they started working on their next game before Tropical Freeze was released, so no more of this crap please.
What myth
 

munchie64

Member
Usually I really on Nintendo to hype up E3 for me, but they don't need to anymore. So my expectations are lower. Doesn't mean I'm not hyped, but I may be easier to sway than others here.
 

Shiggy

Member
When will this myth die? Also, they started working on their next game before Tropical Freeze was released, so no more of this crap please.

What's the myth here? Sales were underperforming.
But you are right, they started their next game long before TF was released. Nintendo was sitting on the game for 6 months to have a title for spring 2014.
 

The_Lump

Banned
Oh I just remembered - weren't there rumours of ZombiU making an appearance at Ubi's conference with ports for PS4/Bone? Unless I missed it, there wasn't anything shown so I'm going to choose to believe it was IN FACT a misheard rumour and we're getting Zombi U2: I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For (Brains) , this Holiday Season.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Laughable. Three Metroid games in a row is perfectly okay, but two DK games is a crime against humanity. Tropical Freeze was hurt by people like you judging the game based on what it wasn't, rather than on its own merits.

Did I say that 3 Metroids in a row was a good thing? A bad doesn't fix another bad. 3 lame threads in a row is also bad.
 
I agree, their best showings aren't coming anytimes soon.
Shenmue: they say Dec 2017, but don't be surprised if that one gets delayed since work hasn't even started
FF VII: Same, they take 1.5 - 2 years to HD'ify FF X, FF VII is a game that needs to be redone from scratch.
TLG: Q4 2016?
Horizon: Q4 2016? Seem to be a candidate for their big holiday title in '16

So while i agree these games are (potentially) great, and I look forward to some of them, we shouldn't expect to see them soon. We will be playing on the NX before some of these will get released.

I feel the same way. Greatness awaits... in 2017 (not even 2016). I'm not impressed.

For 2015, I want Nintendo to focus on 60 fps goodness with brilliant game mechanics like what they have done with Splatoon--the game-changer.
 

E-phonk

Banned
I have a double feeling about the "not showing games for 2016 and beyond" thing here though. I think we will see (late) 2016 titles, and maybe even something 2017'ish.

Strategically they could do it because E3 2016 is likely to have a strong focus on NX, so they can blow their load on the current systems if they really want to. They have less reasons to keep the games that are in development on current gen close to their chest.
 

Javier

Member
Last year they did Robot Chicken, so maybe this year the bumpers will look like this:

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Source.
 

ozfunghi

Member
Laughable. Three Metroid games in a row is perfectly okay, but two DK games is a crime against humanity. Tropical Freeze was hurt by people like you judging the game based on what it wasn't, rather than on its own merits.

Three Metroid games on systems void of similar experiences. Just like WiiU. Another DK game would be madness, considering the amount of platformers and cutesy games already on the WiiU. It is a platform severely lacking an exclusive game in the same vein as Metroid Prime, Half-Life, Deus Ex, and other games like it. Third parties aren't going to be making those anymore on the platform, and after a dozen platformers (DK, Mario, Toad, Rayman, Yoshi, Kirby...) I think it's safe to say that fans of the genre will have plenty to choose from, and one more DK game won't make a difference. A game "like" Metroid Prime however, might make a difference. Maybe not in console sales, but at the very least towards a part of your fanbase that has been starving.
 
I just hope Star Fox is a good format. They haven't quite nailed the lightning in a bottle they caught with Star Fox 64 since that game came out.
 

?oe?oe

Member
According to the email Nintendo AU sent me. Event starts at 2am, Treehouse starts at 3am. (2:55am the following days)

Was the Treehouse directly after the event last year?
 

KingBroly

Banned
Three Metroid games on systems void of similar experiences. Just like WiiU. Another DK game would be madness, considering the amount of platformers and cutesy games already on the WiiU. It is a platform severely lacking an exclusive game in the same vein as Metroid Prime, Half-Life, Deus Ex, and other games like it. Third parties aren't going to be making those anymore on the platform, and after a dozen platformers (DK, Mario, Toad, Rayman, Yoshi, Kirby...) I think it's safe to say that fans of the genre will have plenty to chose from, and one more DK game won't make a difference. A game "like" Metroid Prime however, might make a difference. Maybe not in console sales, but at the very least towards a part of your fanbase that has been starving.

Let's not forget that Nintendo is also bringing out another 2D Platformer this year in Super Mario Maker, so if Retro is working on ANOTHER DKC game, prospects won't be looking good.
 

phanphare

Banned
yo why everybody gotta get down on the dong?

don't hate it cuz you ain't it

According to the email Nintendo AU sent me. Event starts at 2am, Treehouse starts at 3am. (2:55am the following days)

Was the Treehouse directly after the event last year?

yes, it was immediately after
 

Galang

Banned
I have a double feeling about the "not showing games for 2016 and beyond" thing here though. I think we will see (late) 2016 titles, and maybe even something 2017'ish.

Strategically they could do it because E3 2016 is likely to have a strong focus on NX, so they can blow their load on the current systems if they really want to. They have less reasons to keep the games that are in development on current gen close to their chest.

I feel the same way. Next year will likely focus heavily on NX and it's future. This'll be the last E3 of theirs for a while that won't mention an entirely a new console. Now is the best time to show everything that's left
 
What's the myth here? Sales were underperforming.
But you are right, they started their next game long before TF was released. Nintendo was sitting on the game for 6 months to have a title for spring 2014.

Underperforming =/= terrible

It's on the Wii U. Every game not starring Mario or Link (and possibly Splatoon) has underperformed. Metroid fans are spreading the narrative that "TROPICAL FREEZE BOMBED" to elevate their series, despite the fact that Metroid games typically sell even worse than DKC. Genre saturation is the bigger problem here. You'd think Nintendo would feel confident in greenlighting another Metroid title after Other M sold to less than 1% of the Wii's userbase? It's hypocritical.
 

Shiggy

Member
REALLY? I want that demo made into a real HD game so bad.

Not gonna happen. Nintendo pretty much scrapped NST's ambitions into console gaming after Hammer/Wii Crush failed. Their latest titles have only been smaller puzzle games.


Underperforming =/= terrible

It's on the Wii U. Every game not starring Mario or Link (and possibly Splatoon) has underperformed. Metroid fans are spreading the narrative that "TROPICAL FREEZE BOMBED" to elevate their series, despite the fact that Metroid games typically sell even worse than DKC. Genre saturation is the bigger problem here. You'd think Nintendo would feel confident in greenlighting another Metroid title after Other M sold to less than 1% of the Wii's userbase? It's hypocritical.

To be honest, I absolutely don't understand how Nintendo decides which titles to fund. Why fund another Chibi Robo game? Bayonetta 2? Devil's Third?
 
All-in, all I really want is Mother 3. I would be happy if a Nintendo rep walked up, said "MOTHER 3!", and then the rest of the Direct was just white noise that let me process it.
 

xaszatm

Banned
Honestly? Nintendo doesn't really need to "win" this event with me. They've already won it with the Nintendo World Championships. Yes, Sony's conference was incredible with its multiple game announcements, but the NWC was just fun. It was fun to watch the elimination rounds, it was fun to see Reggie fail at Smash, and it was extremely fun to watch that Super Mario Maker Grand Finals. Nintendo knows that E3 has stopped being an "expo" a long time ago and became about entertainment and they killed it with the NWCs. Just by having that alone, I'm perfectly happy with whatever Nintendo shows me. If it's great stuff, even better. If it's not that impressive, I still had the NWC and 3 solid days of Treehouse Live so I'm still happy.
 

Galang

Banned
I'd kinda hope they'd still release the original Mother 3 if they did a remake. I love the original style A LOT ...so I feel a 3D remake would be underwhelming unless it was on Wii U.
 
I would love a follow up to Tropical Freeze, but I'd be disappointed if that was the one thing Retro was working on. Tropical Freeze was possibly the best platformer in the last ten years.
 

TheJoRu

Member
Relatively short, but my gut says they don't have a lot to discuss anyway. Even being conservative (+/- 2mins):

5 - Yarn Yoshi again, release details, etc
5 - Animal Crossing amiibos and their associated game
5 - Super Mario Maker again, release details, etc
5 - Star Fox stuff
5 - Xenoblade 2 again, release details
5 - Indy/digital showcase
5 - Fire Emblem 3DS
5 - Devil's Third?

There's ~40 minutes alone.

Oh come on, really? This is more realistic:

2 - Yoshi's Woolly World
5 - Animal Crossing
6 - Super Mario Maker w. SMB 30th Anniversary talk
5 - Star Fox
2 - Xenoblade Chronicles X
3 - Indie games
1 - Fire Emblem

That's 24 minutes. 3-7 minutes of Devil's Third, my ass.
 

ozfunghi

Member
Underperforming =/= terrible

It's on the Wii U. Every game not starring Mario or Link (and possibly Splatoon) has underperformed. Metroid fans are spreading the narrative that "TROPICAL FREEZE BOMBED" to elevate their series, despite the fact that Metroid games typically sell even worse than DKC. Genre saturation is the bigger problem here. You'd think Nintendo would feel confident in greenlighting another Metroid title after Other M sold to less than 1% of the Wii's userbase? It's hypocritical.

What is hypocritical is talking about the Wii userbase as benchmark for a Metroid game even Metroid fans didn't like. We all know who bought those tens of millions of Wii's, and it wasn't the core Nintendo fan or hardcore gamer. So that % is bollocks.

Genre saturation IS the problem, just like i said in my previous post (previous page). All we got from third parties in similar genres as Metroid Prime, was late and/or sloppy ports. It's time to give DK a rest and look after your userbase that has been neglected safe for Deus Ex and eh... well, that's probably it.
 

pringles

Member
Overall it seems like most people are expecting too much stuff for the WiiU. I don't see why Nintendo would make a big push for the WiiU with franchises like Metroit, F-Zero, Animal Crossing, Diddy Kong Racing.. etc.

If we see Metroit, I bet it's for 3DS. If we see Retro's new game, I bet it's either Metroid 3DS or the last game in the DKCR trilogy for WiiU. Starfox, Mario Maker, Yoshi and MAYBE a Zelda teaser is the main stuff I believe they'll show for WiiU.

At this point Nintendo needs to realize the WiiU is never going to take off. Go all in for the NX so it can have games like Metroid, F-Zero, Animal Crossing, new 3D Mario, maybe Zelda (cross-gen?) within a launch window.
 

jimi_dini

Member
What's the myth here? Sales were underperforming.

But did it sell worse or better than the last Metroid.

Which sold "close to half a million in US" on Wii. Wii sold around 50 million hardware units in US. So it only sold to around less than 1% of the customer base.

Wii U has sold almost 10 million hardware units worldwide (only). So to beat Other M, Tropical Freeze would need to sell around 100.000 copies only. And I think it totally did that. In fact it sold around 130.000 units in US within the first 8 days.

Which means Tropical Freeze sold way better than Other M did. And Tropical Freeze is actually a really well made and great game.
 

KingBroly

Banned
But did it sell worse or better than the last Metroid.

Which sold "close to half a million in US" on Wii. Wii sold around 50 million hardware units in US. So it only sold to around less than 1% of the customer base.

That half million in the US was the initial shipment run, which it never got another of. Many of which are still sitting on store shelves to this day.
 
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