polyh3dron
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Yeah we'll see how well UE4 runs on the Switch. Unity runs horribly on it, as evidenced by Super Bomberman R.
Nintendo First-Party Thread: The Teams, The Games, The Future
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Yeah we'll see how well UE4 runs on the Switch. Unity runs horribly on it, as evidenced by Super Bomberman R.
TwistedFreeze
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To be fair, doesn't Unity run poorly on just about everything? I don't think I've seen a Unity game that doesn't run like garbage
Snipperclips is Unity.
Dark Cloud
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Omg yes I love 3D Worlds art direction. I can't wait to see it. Does she know if it's a SRPG or which kind of RPG?
People leaving Mario + Sonic at the Olympics off their 2018 lists 
Peosonally i'm expecting Nintendo to mostly release 1 game a month going forward and up to about 4 new IPs a year going forward.
Edit: just read Emily's thoughts on Starfox. My 2 cents on where to take it. VR or some other form of 3 stick control. Games like Steep and Starfox struggle with control scheme because they need 2 sticks to control the players movement (plane) in the 3D space, but require a camera/aim control seperate to that. If you mapped Starfox Zero's gamepad control to a Gear VR style accelerometer headset, it would work perfectly.
Although if Nintendo wanted to take a bigger chance, a 3D racer/Flight sim inspired by burnout paradise (a fully vertical open world futuristic city for flying through) Featuring Nintendo mascots from their Scifi inspired series like Starfox, F Zero, Metroid, Xenoblade, Wonderful 101 ect would be a dream game for me, and completely unique across all 3 current console platforms.
Peosonally i'm expecting Nintendo to mostly release 1 game a month going forward and up to about 4 new IPs a year going forward.
Edit: just read Emily's thoughts on Starfox. My 2 cents on where to take it. VR or some other form of 3 stick control. Games like Steep and Starfox struggle with control scheme because they need 2 sticks to control the players movement (plane) in the 3D space, but require a camera/aim control seperate to that. If you mapped Starfox Zero's gamepad control to a Gear VR style accelerometer headset, it would work perfectly.
Although if Nintendo wanted to take a bigger chance, a 3D racer/Flight sim inspired by burnout paradise (a fully vertical open world futuristic city for flying through) Featuring Nintendo mascots from their Scifi inspired series like Starfox, F Zero, Metroid, Xenoblade, Wonderful 101 ect would be a dream game for me, and completely unique across all 3 current console platforms.
SinCityAssassin
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Snipperclips is Unity, as said before, but also Bomberman R was just clearly rushed out an unoptimized. The recent patches to fix performance proof that.
I don't see them doing 4 new IPs a year. Realistically they should be able to put out about 10 games a year with one(mayyyyybe 2) of those being a new IP.People leaving Mario + Sonic at the Olympics off their 2018 lists
Peosonally i'm expecting Nintendo to mostly release 1 game a month going forward and up to about 4 new IPs a year going forward.
Didn't we already have a game that released on Switch uses UE4. How was the performance on that?
Dunno if there was a leak but there was an article about them being familiarize with engine.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1341705
Mobile link sorry.
SinCityAssassin
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Decent.
Digital Foundry praised it because it has a lot going on under the hood, but it's not the best measuring stick since it's subnative on all consoles. I think Redout is the next confirmed UE4 game coming to Switch.
Ah I see. Game was Snake Pass right? It'll be interesting to see how a larger game that uses the engine perform on the device.
TwistedFreeze
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Oh really? Huh, didn't know that. Was mostly going off of what I've seen from the Unity games I've tried out but thanks for that
Dark Cloud
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They already have two new IPs this year in ARMS and Project Mekuru. Idk if people would consider Mario + Rabbids a new IP.
Takhashi said Nintendo has a lot of new IPs coming. I could see 3 new IPs a year ranging from big to small.
Dark Cloud
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Oh is it? All this time I thought it was first party.
what about third party games? really want to see which Japan third party game using UE4 is coming to the switch lol
We might or might not see this at E3. If anything at TGS for Japanese third-parties.
Btw, how many Japan games in development using UE4 right now? Only know SMT HD and DQXI
Kingdom Hearts 3
Final Fantasy VII Remake
Ace Combat 7
Code Vein
Marvel vs Capcom Infinite
Tekken 7
....these are the major ones I can think of.
There is suppose to be 20 games coming to the Switch that are using UE4 so maybe it might some of these or stuff that hasn't been revealed yet.
18, if we take smt and dq11 out, but yeah, maybe a few of those games will end up on the console. Switch will probably be a big cake in the future, so I doubt Japan developers will abandon it
astrogamer
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Bandai Namco and Square Enix seem to have moved to UE4 for major internal teams. On top of that there's Bloodstained and the Neptunia series from their latest game on. I wouldn't be surprised if the new No More Heroes is UE4 too. Various notable publishers are probably switching to UE4 since all the major devices support it
So right now there are Bloodstained, DQXI and Smt are switch games that are using UE4 as of now(or maybe Neptunia and NMH in the future). Speaking of games using UE4, will square localize DQH 1+2 or nah?
Dark Cloud
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The Epic guy confirmed there are atleast 20 UE4 games from Japan coming to Switch.
Leona Lewis
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That first person mode in USFII probably runs on UE4.
It is confirmed MT Framework.
20 or more than 20?
That actually sounds pretty interesting. It's such a bizarre idea, but it's crazy enough to work.
SinCityAssassin
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"at least 20"
Dark Cloud
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He said there's about 20 and maybe more UE4 titles being made for Switch in Japan.
foxuzamaki
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20+ is a big number, and afaik not many Japanese Indies use UE4, so it should be some good stuff in the pipeline, at the very least a lot of AA game which is my personal bread and butter
Lord_Byron28
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This is exactly what I'm thinking could be the lineup. Although I don't think Smash Bros. will be this year. I think BotW DLC release in November though. Switch will have enough AAA multiplayer franchise releases in the first year with MK8D, Arms, Splatoon 2, and Pokémon alone. This is what I could see for 2018 based on their teams and content released in the past:
February: Super Smash Bros.- content from both versions of 4, new characters, stages, items, other content, additional modes, expanded options in different modes, etc.
March: Fire Emblem Switch/3DS
April: Pikmin 4
May: Retro Studios game
June: Mario Party
July: Pokken
August: Wii U remaster such as DK:TF, Captain Toad, Bayonetta 1+2, etc. outsourced to a different team such as Tantalus or Monster Games.
September: Mario Maker
October: 2D Zelda
November: Animal Crossing
2019: Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion (Next Level Games), 3D Mario 3DW-style title, new ips from EAD studios, Nintendo platformer spinoff from Good Feel, Hyrule Warriors 2, Pokemon Gen 8.
This also ignores the possibility of DLC for MK8D, ARMS, Splatoon 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, Super Mario Odyssey, Smash Bros., etc. Not too mention I think Switch has a few big third party games lined up.
Your list is basically old IPs and rereleases/updates of old games, and a game from Retro Studios? Even the Wii U software had a better new IP ratio than that, and currently the Switch first party catalog releases with about 50% new IPs for the software with known release dates.
Yeah, laid out like that, I think that either pokemon or smash is probably going to be next year. Probably pokemon, since smash seems like the kind of game they'd use to make people pay for the online services
TheMoon
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This bit is ancient news. That goes back to Sticker Star days. The relevant bit is the part about going in a new direction which I (we?) actually did miss.
Interfectum
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Doesn't Bomberman run at 60 fps now?
Dark Cloud
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I know the Miyamoto influence goes back to sticker star, but to see his influence continued in another game is sad. I hope his influence on Paper Mario is done. The fans have spoken two games in a row and they said they're done with the SS/CS direction.
Unity runs horribly on everything. So weird that Hexadrive used it and for an exclusive too.
TheMoon
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only if they can squeeze nintendo's balls into publishing it, as usual.
I meant they were still talking about this old mandate.
With dropped resolutions, yes.
Platinum Games has been teasing something lately
https://youtu.be/GDHz44NF_D8
https://youtu.be/GDHz44NF_D8
TheMoon
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he did that almost two years ago now.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Miyamoto is involved in just about every first party game to some degree.
TheMoon
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not his job anymore.
TheMoon
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Exactly 0 rumblings ever since the original rumblings. Xenoblade 2 killed that, as far as I'm concerned. Maybe they'll do it later, if they ever need to fill a spot in the year or something.
Dark Cloud
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Miyamoto is pretty much out of the mix now. They've got him doing other things. The younger guys have taken over.
Good thing is Koizumi likes story and is different from Miyamoto, but in a good way. I'd like to see his influence in other games.