$450 for 3.1tf hybrid machine with DLSS and RT is a good price.
Steam Deck a generation behind Switch 2 in power is at $420.
Nintendo Maintains Nintendo Switch 2 Pricing, Retail Pre-Orders to Begin April 24 in U.S.
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Steam Deck a generation behind Switch 2 in power is at $420.
What do you mean blaming tarrifs? It is tarrifs. it is a problem when you get 10% increase on imports, and China is at above 100%. Should Nintendo be benevolent and just absorb the costs?
Minsc
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Yup, this is going to be something that takes a few months or even a year after its released for the ones still reluctant to realize, but I agree 100% as someone who bought both the LCD and OLED Deck, and loves the OLED Deck.
And I'd agree with that undocked, but docked there's absolutely no contest, it may as well be 2 generations behind the Switch 2 I feel.
But even after the Switch 2 releases, despite it being able to run games better, and be a better, more efficient portable, the Deck still has all its advantages at the end of the day, and the Deck - kinda similar to the Switch 1 - was never really about power in the first place.
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blacktout
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That would definitely be a shame. I can't play Tetris on the Pro Controller because it frequently misreads my inputs and hard drops when I'm just trying to move a piece. It also just generally feels spongy and inaccurate.
It's true but also the steam library and pricing has way more to offer than switch 2. Switch 2 Cyberpunk and FF7 remake would cost 70 dollars I'd imagine vs both probably get to 20ish dollars on steam sales regularly. A lot of considerations.
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Buggy Loop
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I mean ultimately you buy Switch 2 for Nintendo games. Cyberpunk 2077 might be a good trip companion if you buy only one handheld, but you don't buy the console for that ( i hope)
Steam deck's purpose is an extension of your steam library on the fly. Its cool, but they're really different purposes.
Zannegan
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That Sidon pose is a little... suggestive.
StereoVsn
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Compared to US Japanese pricing is $130 or so lower. EU pricing is 20% lower due to VAT being included. Price was determined before tariff and currency fluctuations and Nintendo is trying to take their profits in the NA market (CA pricing also seems like a ripoff).
I'm talking about the new changes, which were caused by tarrifs.
The Switch is 299 euro in Europe, regardless of VAT.
The Switch in Japan is at ¥29,980, which was 260$ in 2017, and now is 200$. You can't just up the price in a crazy amount just because the Yen devalued. The NS2 is ¥49,980, which is 340, but it's 20K more than the OG. You can't go all ham.
NS2 is 100 more than OLED. I think it makes sense.
Sony: Hold my beer.
Woopah
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The previous prices weren't impacted by tarrifs, but the accessory price increases are caused by the China tarrifs.
StereoVsn
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I would wager they are also there to keep Nintendo margins large. Nintendo isn't seem to be willing to eat any of the cost at all.
Mozza
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I would imagine the original joycon will still work with Switch 2...
StereoVsn
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Let's hope so as that would help a lot.
Mozza
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Sounds awesome glad I have ordered one. But just thinking the original pro controller is a decent cheaper option for some.
blacktout
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Yes, it has already been confirmed that Switch 1 joy-cons work with the Switch 2.
Here's Robb from earlier in this thread:
Woopah
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It's the same thing no?
Tarrifs will lower profit margins. Nintendo will eat the extra cost on the Switch 2, whereas on accessories they are only eating some of the cost and passing the rest along to customers to maintain margins.
How large the margins are is unknown.
And of course this depends on what the final tarrifs are.
Sooner
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Not to mention you get a DualSense with the PS5. If you want a single real (non-terrible controller), that's nearly another $100.
blacktout
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So, Nintendo buried the information in an Ask the Developer interview for some unknowable reason, but they have confirmed that Drag X Drive is a digital-only game:
Ask the Developer Vol. 16: Nintendo Switch 2 — Part 2 - News - Nintendo Official Site
This article has been translated from the original Japanese content. This interview was conducted before the system was released. In this 16th volume of Ask the Developer, an interview series in which developers convey in their own words Nintendo's …
www.nintendo.com
Makes me think they might have withheld the release date because they know they'll get more people to check it out if it's an "Available Later Today" announcement during the June Direct.
That said, Nintendo has skipped releasing games in August in some previous years, so the Switch 2 Edition of Kirby might be their only release. (In 2017 they technically didn't have an August first party release, but Ubisoft dropped Mario X Rabbids that month, so it's kind of a grey area.) Regardless, I don't think a Metroid Prime 4 August release is totally out of the question.
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Zephyranthes
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Nintendo probably understood, correctly, that most people were not going to pay $600+ for a Switch 2, no matter what kind of justification they would try to give for it. Raising accessory costs by $10-15 is annoying, but it's way less of a sticker shock by comparison.
Bridges
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Holy shit, I haven't collected amiibo since the Wii U days but I thought they used to be like $12.99 USD? I can't imagine paying $40 for an Amiibo, they don't even really do anything anymore (that I'm aware of?)
delishcaek
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The rising prices and people scalping rare ones has pushed me towards getting an Infc Pixl instead.
They still do something in games, but mostly only Nintendo games.
jshackles
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In addition to the other link already posted here by
Robb
here is the one from Nintendo NA which details compatibility:Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch 2 Accessory Compatibility | Nintendo Support
Information about which Nintendo Switch accessories are able to be used with the Nintendo Switch 2 console.
en-americas-support.nintendo.com
They point out that they can be paired just fine, but can't be attached (duh) or charged from the Swich 2
Deerock71
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By FAR this is my biggest concern. I'm kind of a whale for Nintendo, so I'm banking on that invite!
Myuni
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In addition to the other link already posted here by
Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch 2 Accessory Compatibility | Nintendo Support
Information about which Nintendo Switch accessories are able to be used with the Nintendo Switch 2 console.
They point out that they can be paired just fine, but can't be attached (duh) or charged from the Swich 2
Thanks for the link!
Now, that I know for sure that the Pro Controller is fully compatible, I am less hesitant to buy a Switch 2.
proandrad
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StereoVsn
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That's good. Between compatibility with S1 joycons and decent Chinese controllers (Gamesir, 8bitdo), there is no need to grab Switch 2 "Pro" controller.In addition to the other link already posted here by
Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch 2 Accessory Compatibility | Nintendo Support
Information about which Nintendo Switch accessories are able to be used with the Nintendo Switch 2 console.
They point out that they can be paired just fine, but can't be attached (duh) or charged from the Swich 2
I just picked up a nice controller from Gamesir with gyro, Hall effect sticks, etc… for under $50.
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Buggy Loop
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Man, those are thick sticks and dpads. Must feel great. I wonder what they did with the internals for them to praise the feeling of the joystick so much.
Robb
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Feels like weird praise for the Pro controller specifically, it's the same sticks as the JoyCon 2's (?). But good to hear they feel nice I guess.
Also, how do you make a video like that and not talk about the D-Pad..
Gamerfan81
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Ninty won't increase the price of its console.
Now you can just:
Now you can just:
Effigenius
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Who is making everything more expensive.
I guess you forgot to finish you sentence there.
Ooooh trickle down economics are back?! Finally
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Power Pro
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Jesus christ... remember when amiibo launched? at $12.99
The launch price of Switch 2 was always good/acceptable:
The price shocker came from Mario Kart World.
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Nephryte
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Canada's price are out of this world. When I saw this on Friday I was in complete shock
nial
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Damn. I mean, sure, I don't think anyone gives a fuck about Drag x Drive, but that sucks for the sake of preservation and reselling, especially considering that they will probably charge $40 for it, lol.So, Nintendo buried the information in an Ask the Developer interview for some unknowable reason, but they have confirmed that Drag X Drive is a digital-only game:
Ask the Developer Vol. 16: Nintendo Switch 2 — Part 2 - News - Nintendo Official Site
This article has been translated from the original Japanese content. This interview was conducted before the system was released. In this 16th volume of Ask the Developer, an interview series in which developers convey in their own words Nintendo's …
Bridges
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That's a bummer, not gonna lie but I was looking forward to the novelty of having the wheelchair basketball game on my shelfSo, Nintendo buried the information in an Ask the Developer interview for some unknowable reason, but they have confirmed that Drag X Drive is a digital-only game:
Ask the Developer Vol. 16: Nintendo Switch 2 — Part 2 - News - Nintendo Official Site
This article has been translated from the original Japanese content. This interview was conducted before the system was released. In this 16th volume of Ask the Developer, an interview series in which developers convey in their own words Nintendo's …
Makes me think they might have withheld the release date because they know they'll get more people to check it out if it's an "Available Later Today" announcement during the June Direct.
That said, Nintendo has skipped releasing games in August in some previous years, so the Switch 2 Edition of Kirby might be their only release. (In 2017 they technically didn't have an August first party release, but Ubisoft dropped Mario X Rabbids that month, so it's kind of a grey area.) Regardless, I don't think a Metroid Prime 4 August release is totally out of the question.
Power Pro
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Preorders online are starting on Best Buy, Target, and Walmart at 9pm Pacific time and midnight eastern time tomorrow (Wednesday night). Was kinda bummed at first because I had to be at work at the exact time preorders go live. Fortunately my coworker said they'd stay for an extra hour for me, haha. Awesome. I'll be ready on my computer when the time comes.
Gamestop online preorders don't start til later in the morning on Thursday. Around 8am pacific I believe.
Gamestop online preorders don't start til later in the morning on Thursday. Around 8am pacific I believe.
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Thabass
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Will do allow you to preorder in the store or is it online only?
Mitsurux
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From what I've read seems like they are offering both online and in store pre orders....
Walter Matthau
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Which of these retailers uses the best packaging for orders?
Gambit2483
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I've heard differently. Bestbuy is only doing online, same with Target. You might want to call a Bestbuy today before you end up severely disappointed
hououinkyouma00
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I'll try Target tonight as that is where I would prefer to get it (they don't actually charge until shipping).
Do the accessories go up for preorder tonight too? or just the console?
Do the accessories go up for preorder tonight too? or just the console?
Gambit2483
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Be careful with Target, Bestbuy and Walmart.
They don't actually "charge" your card but they do frequent "authorization checks" where they will temporarily "freeze/hold" the full amount for a couple of days and if your account does not have that full amount they may potentially cancel your order.