Nintendo statement on lack of adaptor in NA.

How can someone claim this is environmentally friendly? If someone reuses the power adapter from their old 3DS, that means the old 3DS sits unused.

If the new system came with an adapter, the consumer can now sell or gift the old 3DS. This is one off the 3 Rs, reusing.

I suspect that reducing the number of easily saleable second hand consoles is a nice side benefit for Nintendo.

Also, new 3ds now officially more e xpensive than borderlands 2 Vita bundle w 8gb memory card....if you want power that is. Lol
 
Ollie Pooch said:
The Lightning cable thing is particularly bad. I've bought third party cables (instead of paying apple THIRTY NINE DOLLARS) and an OS update has blocked them from working. That is ultimate shit-tier anti consumer stuff, IMO. But then my third party cable could start a fire and incinerate my family, or some other apologist bullshit. Nintendo's thing is atrociously cheap, nothing more. At least it's not somewhat hostile :P
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Just wait until they update the firmware to make all 3rd party cables not work suddenly.
They did that for R4.
 
TheSlySoul said:
Shh, you are using logic.
Next console will come with no controllers and uses Wiimotes to play.
The Wiimote will be $8 on Amazon, so it will be ok to not include it.
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You guys seem to be arguing with yourselves.

Most of the people "defending" (notice the "s) this agree that it is a shitty practice. The thing is that people are losing their shit over this in a way that, frankly, is a bit absurd.

It's shitty, yes. It could've easily been different, yes. But calm the fuck down. "Borderline illegal"? Jesus.
 
Ollie Pooch said:
The Lightning cable thing is particularly bad. I've bought third party cables (instead of paying apple THIRTY NINE DOLLARS) and an OS update has blocked them from working. That is ultimate shit-tier anti consumer stuff, IMO. But then my third party cable could start a fire and incinerate my family, or some other apologist bullshit. Nintendo's thing is atrociously cheap, nothing more. At least it's not somewhat hostile :P
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Oh wow Apple really are just the nastiest to their customer base
 
Oh come on. That charger can't cost them more than a couple dollars to manufacture. This, along with the lack of a smaller n3ds option has made me decide I won't be getting one. I'll buy an XL second hand before I give them money for a c-stick.
 
TheSlySoul said:
Just wait until they update the firmware to make all 3rd party cables not work suddenly.
They did that for R4.
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That'd be a shame, I much prefer simple USB cables for my devices particularly when I'm travelling. One charger block, multiple cables. I wonder if Nintendo consoles have the option to detect 3rd party cables.
 
Ollie Pooch said:
That'd be a shame, I much prefer simple USB cables for my devices particularly when I'm travelling. One charger block, multiple cables. I wonder if Nintendo consoles have the option to detect 3rd party cables.
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No clue, I know they had a way to detect if you are using third party carts. I could see them implementing something to detect if made by Nintendo.
 
Brazil said:
You guys seem to be arguing with yourselves.

Most of the people "defending" (notice the "s) this agree that it is a shitty practice. The thing is that people are losing their shit over this in a way that, frankly, is a bit absurd.

It's shitty, yes. It could've easily been different, yes. But calm the fuck down. "Borderline illegal"? Jesus.
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If you have to qualify your statements with a "but..."
 
Haven't checked through the thread yet but is there a price for the adapter? I don't own any Nintendo handhelds, this was going to be my first lol so I'm kinda SOL.
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
When they redesign the PS4 Sony should remove the HDMI cable and power cord. They use the same ones from the PS3 right? People have em lying around, it would drop the console price by an additional $20!
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unless I'm mistaken the NES, SNES and N64 all used the same AC Adapter as well, so Nintendo could have just shipped the N64 without one since there were so many millions of NES' and SNES' out there.
 
Ollie Pooch said:
That'd be a shame, I much prefer simple USB cables for my devices particularly when I'm travelling. One charger block, multiple cables. I wonder if Nintendo consoles have the option to detect 3rd party cables.
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I don't think so USB cables are typically passive so unless the console communicates with the charger to 'handshake' before accepting a charge they can't do this. Apple are in a better position because Lightning cables are 'active' (ie they have embedded control logic) and thus they can query the cable 'Are you an overpriced Apple Accessory Yes/No?' and reject if it says no.
 
Eggbok said:
Haven't checked through the thread yet but is there a price for the adapter? I don't own any Nintendo handhelds, this was going to be my first lol so I'm kinda SOL.
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Silly you, people like you don't actually exist.

ShinUltramanJ said:
Are they supposed to sell their used 3DS systems without a charger because Nintendo's too cheap to give you one?
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Is gamestop more scummy/cheap than Nintendo?
 
Chindogg said:
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I don't think anyone's defended anything. Most just point out the insane overreactions.
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Ah, I'm sure that overused gif will get your point across. If you don't think anybody is in here defending Nintendo's decision to nickle and dime consumers then you haven't read more than a handful of posts in this thread. The only 'insane' thing here is not including an essential item in the box.
 
Brazil said:
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It's shitty, yes. It could've easily been different, yes. But calm the fuck down. "Borderline illegal"? Jesus.
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But if you let it slide without raising your voice, you are saying to Nintendo that you are ok with it. Then they will try different methods of cutting costs. They may even decide to adopt a NNID subscription service for all their games that costs $5 dollars a month.
Isn't it better to call them out than let it slide?
Microsoft reversed DRM policies. EA apologized for Dungeon Keeper (poor devs). Ubisoft should have a less buggy AC next year.
 
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I already have two AC adapters so this is not a problem for me, yet I'm not cool with this decision.
I'm purchasing a N3DS XL regardless, but I don't want this to set a bad precedent somehow. When I first heard other regions didn't get chargers I was baffled, I didn't understand why you would leave that out since it's essential to the console. At the time I also didn't think Nintendo would try to pull that in the Americas and now they have, so just like I complained during Driveclub's PS+ offer ($50 for PS+ users, will not keep full game if subscription expires, later fixed), I'm complaining here because I don't want this kind of precedent to be left.

I also think people don't have any 3DS console and planned to get this one but won't get it anymore due to the lack of an AC adapter, are being way too hard on this. Sure, it's an inconvenience and you'll have to spend a little more, but you already planned to purchase the console and while I think you have all the right to complain just as I'm doing, don't let this be the reason you won't be getting a console you wanted to get.
 
FlashbladeGAF said:
And watch, Gamestop will want your charger (if you want the full credit) when trading in your old 3DS
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They actually do, it is part of the policy. So trading in means new system and new adapter. $10 of your $75 trade credit vanished.

HardRojo said:
I also think people don't have any 3DS console and planned to get this one but won't get it anymore due to the lack of an AC adapter, are being way too hard on this. Sure, it's an inconvenience and you'll have to spend a little more, but you already planned to purchase the console and while I think you have all the right to complain just as I'm doing, don't let this be the reason you won't be getting a console you wanted to get.
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True, but the best way to react is to be hyberbolic so they will change their mind.
Worked for DRM practices.
 
Negator said:
At times like this I wish someone from the government would step in to force Nintendo to include their proprietary charger. Someone from higher up needs to call Nintendo out on their blatant anti-consumer bullshit.
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I'm all for this - Would love to see Nintendo lose money on providing the charger and on postage costs. They get hit with double the fees and never think of pulling a stupid stunt like this ever again.

To those that think the device is cheaper because of a $2 charger are kidding themselves. Lol.
 
It's just a dumb decision. I could imagine parents buying this for next Christmas and then finding out it doesn't include an adaptor, plus the battery life sucks.

It's a dumb business decision.
 
Negator said:
At times like this I wish someone from the government would step in to force Nintendo to include their proprietary charger. Someone from higher up needs to call Nintendo out on their blatant anti-consumer bullshit.
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ugh_the_boot said:
I'm all for this - Would love to see Nintendo lose money on providing the charger and on postage costs. They get hit with double the fees and never think of pulling a stupid stunt like this ever again.
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Do you really want the government meddling in the video game industry?

It may seem like a good idea in the heat of the moment, but think about it a little bit...
 
I would rather they not have said anything instead of giving us this chicken shit reason. Anyone with a brain knows it was an anti consumer decision driven by the desire to maximize profits. They save money on existing 3DS owners not getting a charger they already own, while at the same time making some nice money off of their overpriced chargers from new customers.

In this instance they're being just plain cheap and greedy, which is surprising considering they pulled a very pro consumer move a couple months ago by offering Bayonetta 1 free with Bayo 2.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
unless I'm mistaken the NES, SNES and N64 all used the same AC Adapter as well, so Nintendo could have just shipped the N64 without one since there were so many millions of NES' and SNES' out there.
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AV Cable, AC was different.

I actually was annoyed the Wii used a diiferent one, but I still would have wanted one with the system if it had been the same.
 
entrement said:
It's just a dumb decision. I could imagine parents buying this for next Christmas and then finding out it doesn't include an adaptor, plus the battery life sucks.

It's a dumb business decision.
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Yep. I am ready for some angry white mom with no time in her hand make a social campaign. It will be fun.
 
Pathfinder said:
Do you really want the government meddling in the video game industry?

It may seem like a good idea in the heat of the moment, but think about it a little bit...
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I'm not advocating it just for the video game industry. It should be standard practice for all consumer electronics. Make your shit work out of the damn box, especially if what you need is proprietary.
 
Maybe this joke was made already, but:

I see Nintendo doing a good job at hiring Ubisoft's PR staff.

To those talking about 3DS situation in Europe and Japan: that counterargument is really a NON-STARTER, and you people really need to stop. In the US, mobile devices typically come with a charger. So this is new for us Americans, and we find it disagreeable. As consumers, we at least have the right to complaint, right?
 
HardRojo said:
I already have two AC adapters so this is not a problem for me, yet I'm not cool with this decision.
I'm purchasing a N3DS XL regardless, but I don't want this to set a bad precedent somehow. When I first heard other regions didn't get chargers I was baffled, I didn't understand why you would leave that out since it's essential to the console. At the time I also didn't think Nintendo would try to pull that in the Americas and now they have, so just like I complained during Driveclub's PS+ offer ($50 for PS+ users, will not keep full game if subscription expires, later fixed), I'm complaining here because I don't want this kind of precedent to be left.

I also think people don't have any 3DS console and planned to get this one but won't get it anymore due to the lack of an AC adapter, are being way too hard on this. Sure, it's an inconvenience and you'll have to spend a little more, but you already planned to purchase the console and while I think you have all the right to complain just as I'm doing, don't let this be the reason you won't be getting a console you wanted to get.
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The charger isn't the only reason for me. It costs $230 here and there aren't any games that are out for it till Xenoblade. The charger is the cherry on the meh top.
 
TheSlySoul said:
But if you let it slide without raising your voice, you are saying to Nintendo that you are ok with it. Then they will try different methods of cutting costs. They may even decide to adopt a NNID subscription service for all their games that costs $5 dollars a month.
Isn't it better to call them out than let it slide?
Microsoft reversed DRM policies. EA apologized for Dungeon Keeper (poor devs). Ubisoft should have a less buggy AC next year.
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No, keep your mouth shut and be happy Nintendo is even blessing us with yet another hardware revision. How dare you be annoyed they won't include a charger in the box just to save themselves a few bucks!

/Sarcasm

Seriously, if we don't make our displeasure known they'll think they can get away with more bs like this.
 
Kriken said:
And for those looking to jump into the 3DS gen? What about them?
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Sucks for them. They'll have to buy one separately.
You see this wouldn't have to buy one, if they owned the original 3DS. It's their fault for not owning a DSi/3DS. :(
 
WrenchNinja said:
The charger isn't the only reason for me. It costs $230 here and there aren't any games that are out for it till Xenoblade. The charger is the cherry on the meh top.
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All valid, but as an upgrade I will vouch for the new screen being vastly improved. It really is how the system should have been from the beginning but it's great. I have it maxed out on 3d and have no issues.
 
WrenchNinja said:
The charger isn't the only reason for me. It costs $230 here and there aren't any games that are out for it till Xenoblade. The charger is the cherry on the meh top.
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Ah well, it's understandable if there are more factors in your case, but if the charger is the only problem then I think complaining is totally valid but you could still get the console.
 
TheSlySoul said:
But if you let it slide without raising your voice, you are saying to Nintendo that you are ok with it. Then they will try different methods of cutting costs. They may even decide to adopt a NNID subscription service for all their games that costs $5 dollars a month.
Isn't it better to call them out than let it slide?
Microsoft reversed DRM policies. EA apologized for Dungeon Keeper (poor devs). Ubisoft should have a less buggy AC next year.
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Calling them out is good. We could go without all the unnecessary drama, though.

WrenchNinja said:
If you have to qualify your statements with a "but..."
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Oh my God.
 
ugh_the_boot said:
I'm all for this - Would love to see Nintendo lose money on providing the charger and on postage costs. They get hit with double the fees and never think of pulling a stupid stunt like this ever again.

To those that think the device is cheaper because of a $2 charger are kidding themselves. Lol.
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its more like 20 cents for a company like nintendo ordering them in bulk
 
Fans will allow Nintendo get as nickel and dimey as they possibly can because they regard the company as like a surrogate parent at times and afford it an increased amount of emotional leeway compared to almost all other for-profit organisations on Earth.

No AC adaptor included, no easy Account system attached content to just log-in and redownload stuff instead requiring you to have both systems on the same day and date thus nuking your trade in price, region locking while none of their competitors engage in it... its an all round shit show, but they know they don't have to sweat it all. They have that buffer of untouchable "we were there from your first memories" nostalgic cord to tug on each and every time, so they'll always get to pull this sorta shit.

All other companies are surely about as jealous as it gets of them and their power over their base. Don't think even Apple could pull this shit off without a hitch like Nintendo does.
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
They could fix this by having retailers give a $10 discount or a AC adapter.
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I think it could easily be solved by letting retailers buy it for cheaper, so that way they can bundle the system with a AC adapter for $200. There, you saved customer money and also did not have to include AC adapters in the 3DS box.

But I am using logic...
 
What a bunch of assholes. The system was going to cost $200 no matter what it included since the $199 price looks good, no way was it going to be $209.99 or whatever, so Nintendo pretty much fucked us and increased their margins. Seriously, this company is on another planet right now. And for the record I would have payed $210 to get the complete system, adapter included rather than getting nickle and dimed like this. On launch day I would have flipped out if I bought the system and then asked for a charger, only to have an employee tell me they are all out. Oh ok, so now I need to go to ANOTHER store just to make my system work?
 
Just cause its common in other parts of the world and weak people have decided to tolerate it doesn't make it right.

First of all how about people who don't own a previous handheld or are selling their old ones because that's the only way they can afford the new one? This decision makes it more expensive for them because I doubt Nintendo will be selling that adapter for anything near cost. Also you know the solution for not making it more expensive for your consumers Nintendo? Include and eat the dollar or so that it costs to manufacture like every other one of your competitors do.
 
Pie and Beans said:
All other companies are surely about as jealous as it gets of them and their power over their base. Don't think even Apple could pull this shit off without a hitch like Nintendo does.
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Oh come on, who are you trying to kid?

When Apple changed to Lightning cables and adapters, causing every iPad/iPhone accessory made up until that point to suddenly become obsolete, it caused a shitstorm of massive proportions.

And people still love Apple.
 
Pathfinder said:
Oh come on, who are you trying to kid?

When Apple changed to Lightning cables and adapters, causing every iPad/iPhone accessory made up until that point to suddenly become obsolete, it caused a shitstorm of massive proportions.

And people still love Apple.
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And then charged a ridiculous price for the adapter which didn't even work on all accessories.
 
Honestly curious, if people would act like this if Sony removed the HDMI cable and power cord from a redesigned PS4. Guys, guys, you have plenty of HDMI cables and the power cable is the same one from the PS3 and old PS4. Oh, the cost won't actually be cheaper though, but we are saving you money. Lol.
 
Pie and Beans said:
Fans will allow Nintendo get as nickel and dimey as they possibly can because they regard the company as like a surrogate parent at times and afford it an increased amount of emotional leeway compared to almost all other for-profit organisations on Earth.

No AC adaptor included, no easy Account system attached content to just log-in and redownload stuff instead requiring you to have both systems on the same day and date thus nuking your trade in price, region locking while none of their competitors engage in it... its an all round shit show, but they know they don't have to sweat it all. They have that buffer of untouchable "we were there from your first memories" nostalgic cord to tug on each and every time, so they'll always get to pull this sorta shit.

All other companies are surely about as jealous as it gets of them and their power over their base. Don't think even Apple could pull this shit off without a hitch like Nintendo does.
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That group of people is shrinking all the time now, though.
 
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