StueyDuck
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It really wasn't. It was still mobile chipsets. By virtue of being modern chips at the time sure they were "stronger" but just have a look at these 240p atrocities and tell me that's what your GameCube put out
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Nintendo Switch 2 Can Run BOTW at 4K Res, 60 FPS; May Be Capable of Better Ray Tracing Than PS5/Xbox Series X
BlackTron
Member
Nice try, but you are counting on Nvidia to have a bunch of 2 year old chips laying around for a massive hardware launch.
Wii U was a disaster and Nintendo was trying to pivot without the confidence they have today in the product. They got Nvidia's old stock at a bargain price. They are in an entirely new business position, and Nvidia doesn't have old shit laying around after Covid. It's a different world today.
BlackTron
Member
hey i don't want Switch2 games to perform poorly. if the new hardware enables 1080p 60 on every new release and a boost to perf on older titles too thats great, i want switch 2 players to have a great experience with their new system...
But i like my yuzu. I dont really like having to pull out my switch to finish up a game or two.
E-Cat
Member
Not very bright, are ya
Guerilla Munch
Member
lmao at everyone comparing Switch 2, which will sell 150+ million units, to muh Deck and muh ROG which are niche enthusiast devices
Nintendo can broker much better deals for hardware parts because they're going to be ordering tens of millions of them every year. They can also launch at $500 and sell out every shipment for 2 years at least.
Switch 2 is going to be a monster and it's hilarious that so many grown adults feel threatened by that
Nintendo can broker much better deals for hardware parts because they're going to be ordering tens of millions of them every year. They can also launch at $500 and sell out every shipment for 2 years at least.
Switch 2 is going to be a monster and it's hilarious that so many grown adults feel threatened by that
E-Cat
Member
On the other hand, WiiU and Switch are practically the same generation...
SolidQ
Member
From 2022 news
If the Tegra T239 is a customised Tegra T234, it should be based on NVIDIA's Ampere architecture. Reputedly, the Tegra T239 will contain 2,048 CUDA cores, up from 256 shader cores in the Maxwell-based Tegra X1. Nominally, the Tegra T239 should deliver 4 TFLOPs of performance too, a 10x increase on the Switch's current 0.4 TFLOP output.
All we know Ampere is Double TF, real shoud be 2TF
If the Tegra T239 is a customised Tegra T234, it should be based on NVIDIA's Ampere architecture. Reputedly, the Tegra T239 will contain 2,048 CUDA cores, up from 256 shader cores in the Maxwell-based Tegra X1. Nominally, the Tegra T239 should deliver 4 TFLOPs of performance too, a 10x increase on the Switch's current 0.4 TFLOP output.
All we know Ampere is Double TF, real shoud be 2TF
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
Like i said, just didn't have the games to show it. More powerful doesn't = better looking games, automatically.
Also, that's a terrible example. Hyrule Warriors is just a miserable experience on 3DS all around. a better game would be something like OOT3D or Xenoblade 3DS which was incredibly impressive for the system.
BlackTron
Member
If you think grown adults feel threatened. I wanna see how Sony looks in 2 years.
As for Xbox
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
They have Spiderman. I think they'll be fine
JordiENP
Member
Mobile phones don't have active cooling and the ones that do depends on the same snapdragon architecture and not Nvidia.
Sleepwalker
Member
$5 fan go brrrrrrr
BlackTron
Member
You just proved my point by calling them "fine". Not saying they will be destitute but I think N might have em on the backfoot and seeing them as a larger threat than Xbox. And a more confusing nut to crack too. Casual market responded well to Switch but it was "okay" due to massive power gap. If they start closing that gap it will not be okay anymore lol.
JordiENP
Member
I overclocked my switch and yes it goes brrrrr. Also runs everything smooth as f. The switch is more capable than what Nintendo sells, the reason is downclocked is because of the battery. Without that $5 fan the switch would melt at higher clocks.
BlackTron
Member
My man. My mod chip is en route from China, can't wait for 60FPS TOTK on a Mariko. Put down the game until I could do this.
KXVXII9X
Member
Very exciting indeed! I think the DLSS will be a nice boost for sure. Even having most games be at least 1080p or resolution would be a massive step over the sometimes sub 720p resolution of the Switch. Better Anti-aliasing will also give Nintendo games a nice boost as well.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
so if the Switch 2 hardware ends up being that powerful and it gets downclocked for battery saving measures how the fuck is that a 'powerful system'?
Nintendo will never allow you to change switch clocks/speeds for better performance so the theoretical power of the system doesn't matter anyways.
Fair enough, lol. I'd kind of like to see a Nintendo gen with no catch. Powerful hardware and insane third party support, and the same IPs that have kept them afloat for 40 years. Imagine the dominance. Nintendo's hubris and weird design decisions held them back during the N64 and Gamecube gen, a console where everything is on par with the competitors and it's just up to who has the best games... holy fuck.
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JordiENP
Member
I overclock and play at 30 fps on handheld mode but I use an app called Reverse NX. Basically runs at the highest definition the game can run docked but on handheld mode, extra crisp.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
You guys really need to stop believing these sketchy rumours so easily.
4k60fps RT, in a handheld that will be less powerful than a iPhone.
4k60fps RT, in a handheld that will be less powerful than a iPhone.
JordiENP
Member
Because I was talking about active cooling and Nvidia vs phones and their adrenos. If the switch didn't have active cooling I wouldn't be able to overclock. Nintendo themselves utilize different clock speeds on different games on handheld mode. With Dlss and FSR you can play at "higher resolutions" utilizing less power. People forget the switch has tech from 8 years ago. Right now even thermal paste is more advanced.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
You know what you also need with your Switch in order to be able to overclock?
A modchip. either that or an early model switch. Most people do not have those, so the default clocks are basically what the system's power is to most people.
BlackTron
Member
I'll look into that app thanks sounds useful. I don't think I would play TOTK handheld but my first thought is fixing the mess in Link's Awakening.
The relevant part is, Nintendo added a fan, making it a more dynamic game-console piece of kit than a phone/tablet. So comparing Switch directly to a phone to prove what is possible is disingenuous, that's his point.
Raonak
Banned
The promise of powerful Nintendo hardware is a fool's errand.
The device is gonna be a generational upgrade over the switch. And that's pretty much it.
Nintendo knows it's struck gold at the mid range handheld price. They aren't gonna for a 499 device in this economy.
The device is gonna be a generational upgrade over the switch. And that's pretty much it.
Nintendo knows it's struck gold at the mid range handheld price. They aren't gonna for a 499 device in this economy.
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BlackTron
Member
I honestly don't think it's going to be that powerful. As usual, it's gonna be yesterday's games.
Oh wait. Diminishing returns happened, and so did COVID and cross-gen. Yesterdays games are practically today's games! Fuck!!
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Sleepwalker
Member
Link to chip pls, been meaning to mod an oled with faulty wifi/bt.
Rat Rage
Member
Who comes up with all this stupid shit information? Switch 2 is gonna be a hybrid. Portability is gonna be a massive selling point. Anyone with a fucking brain knows that portability comes at a cost: battery life, or in other words power consumption.
Don't get your hopes up. Just - use - your - brains.
Don't get your hopes up. Just - use - your - brains.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
Guerilla Munch
Member
$500+ PS5 was constantly sold out for 2 years. People, especially early adopters, will absolutely pay $500 for a Switch 2 that plays next gen COD, GTA, Fifa/Madden, MK9, Smash, Odyssey 2, etc. The original Switch is still $350 ffs
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Can’t say I am surprise since PS5 is old tech by now. Having a hybrid between the level of PS4 Pro and PS5 is enticing. Its essentially the PS4 portable that Playstation fans insist isn’t possible, except it won’t have Playstation first party games for obvious reason.
Again, it's faux K instead of 4K,the image is going to be upscaled to appear higher resolution than what it really is. Maybe there might be some modest ray tracing in docked mode.You guys really need to stop believing these sketchy rumours so easily.
4k60fps RT, in a handheld that will be less powerful than a iPhone.
onnextflix5
Member
If it needs Dlss to hit 4k 60, dose it not show how underpowered it is, native 4k 60fps should be easy with switch games.
Not that I believe any of these bogus rumours.
Not that I believe any of these bogus rumours.
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digoutyoursoul
Member
It’s Project Cafe and to some degree NX all over again.
Best to just wait for the official announcement .
cartman414
Member
Didn't happen for PS3 though. Got spanked by Wii60, and MS squandered the goodwill they had at that time, so things were a bit different.
Switch 2 better be a mighty good value proposition even at $400 let alone $500.
GeeseGoose
Member
"Switch 2 so powerful that it enables Valve to make HL3, runs FF16 at 120FPS and is backwards compatible with every game system ever made or ever will be made with 16k upscaling"
Trust me, I'm an insider. Posted on MySpace.
Trust me, I'm an insider. Posted on MySpace.
zeldaring
Banned
Only problem is 2 years from now there won't any cross gen games anymore. So switch 2 might have 1 good year of support.
BlackTron
Member
The gap between Switch 2 and PS5/XSX will be smaller than the gap between Switch 1 and PS4/Xbox One. I never meant to suggest full parity.
It will be close enough to be a real bitch for Sony and MS though. A bigger bitch than Switch 1 which already paved the road for it. If they got Witcher 3 to work on Switch then a nerfed version of almost any third party game is in the cards here. Thing is -it may be nerfed but it won't look like total shit and won't take buckets of elbow grease to shoehorn onto the system. It's a pretty big deal when you think about it.
zeldaring
Banned
Well see how plays put. I honestly think switch got a massive boost cause of covid and free money. With parents buying it for their children. Playstation and switch have a different audience. Online gamers ain't gonna wanna switch for inferior hardware and inferior online experience.
Interfectum
Member
This is exactly right. Also expect games like Fortnite and Rocket League to run much better on Switch 2. Big portable sellers there.
Raonak
Banned
I mean, have you tried playing a cross gen game on last gen hardware? The results aren't pretty. Even Series S results aren't looking to pretty.
Running a switch game at 4K60 is a pretty easy task for most modern hardware.
But running modern games on modern engines is another thing entirely.
switch2 is gonna run into the exact same problems that other hardware has when running modern games.
actually, worse, because since switch2 is constrained by additional battery life and heat constraints.
Nintendo isn't targeting early adopters which will go for higher prices.
Their most successful devices have always been mass market device that are priced well (blue ocean strategy)
Nintendo knows how dangerous it is to go for a higher price, WiiU and 3DS launch was evident of that.
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TLZ
Banned
This.
If it was native, yes laugh all you want. But DLSS is doing what it should on a 2017 game.
Musashipan
Member
Saving this thread for the future
TLZ
Banned
Yes. You're not wrong there. But also that's where DLSS can help. PS5 and xsx can do 4k, then Switch 2 comes with 540p-720p DLSS'd to 1080/1440p. DLSS came at the perfect time for Nintendo.Maybe they mean to say that it will display PS5 and XSX graphics, but at 480p or lower resolutions!
Buggy Loop
Member
Yeah, a reminder for peoples :
And these were the early DLSS versions. DLSS would make it punch way above its weight
Like, you need to beat PS4 in raw power, then DLSS will just leverage everything up. A sprinkle of Ampere architecture advancements, IO management, RT, ML, then you'll start to get comparisons with current gen games because it has been a very soft departure from old gen on all fronts so far, even some questionable exclusives that are "why couldn't it run on PS4?"
Not saying there wouldn't be cut corners, but the diminishing returns are out of this world this gen thus far. Switch 2 could come in and get very good impressions just by being above PS4.
IAmRei
Member
yep, i think i can be agree with advancement, but hopefully the battery life is also nice
ShadyAcshuns
Member
If it's still a hybrid? Absolutely would be a dream.
...but....but...but people said the Matrix Demo looked the same on the S?
