Look at all past generations, handhelds always outsell their console counterparts. It's only natural that Nintendo would choose a handheld as base for the Switch, adding the home console part to not lose that smaller part of their audience. As a handheld it's a huge jump from the 3DS which is a great system with awesome games. I can't understand all the negativity honestly.
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Nintendo Switch Discussion Thread (Question of the Day, Countdown, etc)
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Mick Swagger
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Because this is not what Nintendo is marketing it as. What you choose to perceive it as is not what they have consistently and clearly stated / marketed it as.
It's not a handheld, it's a hybrid console. It'll be the jack of all trades and master of absolutely none.
It will end up being the best handheld yet, so it's a master of something, regardless of how true or not those CPU speculations are.
AquaWateria
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Being surrounded by negativity is a pain like damn.
I honestly can not wait till the January event to get all these rumors over with.
I honestly can not wait till the January event to get all these rumors over with.
Good luck with that. We saw two reaction threads today based on a rumor. Come January 12th/13th there will be more threads than any one can keep up with. I pity the mods
Jim_Cacher
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I was hesitant to come to GAF when there is so much negativity without some light-hearted threads around. I want to come up with something, but currently not in the mood since something has just happened in real life.
Sorry for the rant.
th3sicknness
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Who gives a shit how many flops it is.. Lets see what developers do with it.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I just want Retro's game to show up at the January blowout.
DecoReturns
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All these leaks and rumors about specs.
And here i'm waiting for rumors/leaks about which developers will be at the Event. I Really want to see Retros new game
And here i'm waiting for rumors/leaks about which developers will be at the Event. I Really want to see Retros new game
vasametropolis
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Is the design of the system final? After seeing it on Fallon, it looks a little incomplete. The back is jet black, but the rest of it is grey. It looks kind of odd, gigantic logos aside. I like most of it, though. An answer probably hasn't been given yet :/
Ruud_Luiten
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New Dankey Kong!
People nowadays like to talk about specs more than games in video game consoles.
I just need more Japanese third party news, man.
gate stormer
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If new Mario or Zelda is a launch title, I'm there day one.
Exactly this, and Nintendo reveals.
It's gonna be fine, folks. All you have to do is go by my handy-dandy Switch Release Guide:
1) Realize that January is not here and that few things are certain. Limited spec rumors are not full spec reveals, even if they are accurate in regard to some specifics.
2) Realize that developers are not shitting all over this console when they normally would be if it sucked categorically. In fact, we've heard only good things from developers, even some who haven't said a definitive good word about Nintendo in ages, if ever. This is no Wii U pre-release grumble-fest.
3) Remember we are getting all serious Nintendo games on one platform that can be portable or home-based as we see fit. This is huge if you happen to like Nintendo games.
4) Consider that it's really three consoles in one: Home console, handheld console, and portable home-style console complete with local MP anywhere, even with separate controllers.
5) Remember what Nintendo can do with modest tech and then revisit point #3. Also consider that they are good at settling upon custom options that perform beyond their on-paper capabilities.
6) January Is Coming. Even if there isn't a detailed spec reveal (there won't be, at least not by Nintendo,) there will be games that show what its performance realistically is. That's what matters, right? How games run on it, and what games are running on it? Can't wait.
7) Indies. Sure, it might not be a big selling point for casuals, but OH MY GOD if I am not drooling over the thought of having a capable indie device I can take anywhere and either play alone or with friends. If the Switch has good indie support, it will literally be my favorite console that has ever existed.
That's all for my positive Switch points for the day
1) Realize that January is not here and that few things are certain. Limited spec rumors are not full spec reveals, even if they are accurate in regard to some specifics.
2) Realize that developers are not shitting all over this console when they normally would be if it sucked categorically. In fact, we've heard only good things from developers, even some who haven't said a definitive good word about Nintendo in ages, if ever. This is no Wii U pre-release grumble-fest.
3) Remember we are getting all serious Nintendo games on one platform that can be portable or home-based as we see fit. This is huge if you happen to like Nintendo games.
4) Consider that it's really three consoles in one: Home console, handheld console, and portable home-style console complete with local MP anywhere, even with separate controllers.
5) Remember what Nintendo can do with modest tech and then revisit point #3. Also consider that they are good at settling upon custom options that perform beyond their on-paper capabilities.
6) January Is Coming. Even if there isn't a detailed spec reveal (there won't be, at least not by Nintendo,) there will be games that show what its performance realistically is. That's what matters, right? How games run on it, and what games are running on it? Can't wait.
7) Indies. Sure, it might not be a big selling point for casuals, but OH MY GOD if I am not drooling over the thought of having a capable indie device I can take anywhere and either play alone or with friends. If the Switch has good indie support, it will literally be my favorite console that has ever existed.
That's all for my positive Switch points for the day
Jon Carter
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There was a "CE" logo on the back, which suggests it's a retail unit. Unfortunate, because I really dislike the grey but love everything else.
ShadowFox08
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It will happen. Give it 2-3 years when they release switch with pascal chip with same or better battery life as launch(could be up to +700 GFLOPS docked?), and either an scd attachment or a separate console that will be ps4 to pro level(possibly with VR support like the patent.. if VR takes off). Nintendo did say the switch we know know is going to be part of a family.. So I'm thinking they will most definitely go the iphone or at least mid generation route like sony and ms.
Astral Dog
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This, this is what im hoping for, i played lots of good japanese games on the weak, low res 3DS, making the jump to Switch does not seem like a bad deal after all, regardless if it ends up being Wii U + or Wii U +++
games targeting the system will look great on it.
DecoReturns
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I'm hoping for a surprise Fire Emblem announcement, Which might be completely unrealistic based on development time between Awakening and Fates.
Monolith, give me some RPG goodness
Monolith, give me some RPG goodness
Yeah there's a reason I read Thraktor's post in that other one, left a single response and mostly stayed away lol, hoping that this thread saw some activity instead.
DecoReturns
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I left because I really don't understand specs or DBZ analogies. My brain started to hurt.
Switch could run ps4 games.
People forget that the portable system screen is way smaller than a TV screen.
Looking what 3ds does, I think the switch could run next gen gfx on the handheld.
When docked it will be faster but gfx will maybe just be a bit lower than xbox1 on Tv.
So i would say, lets wait until 12jan to see the games.
Massive 3rd party are happy to support it, this is also a signal that the system is strong and they are happy with the power of the system.
People forget that the portable system screen is way smaller than a TV screen.
Looking what 3ds does, I think the switch could run next gen gfx on the handheld.
When docked it will be faster but gfx will maybe just be a bit lower than xbox1 on Tv.
So i would say, lets wait until 12jan to see the games.
Massive 3rd party are happy to support it, this is also a signal that the system is strong and they are happy with the power of the system.
-Mutsukki-
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Sorry but that's just wishiful thinking if those specs are true (Heck, even if they aren't). Games could absolutely be ported, but will never be PS4 graphic quality ever. Some that run at 30fps even there won't definitely run either.
Resolution doesn't really matter in this case
ShadowFox08
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If the Switch was at least 512 GFLOPS when docked(accounting for architectural differences also), it could probably run conventional 1080p multiplat xbone games in 720p on tv, if the CPU and RAM was roughly half as well.
Developers are gonna just fuck our shit up come March
crimsonheadGCN
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I am confident too.
Jim_Cacher
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Me too. What apparent is that they know what they are doing.
It has always been that if Nintendo does not bring big first party games to Switch launch and first year, then something is seriously wrong, which is possible, but I tend to believe that this long drought will end and that Nintendo does have their shit somewhat together for Switch, at least on a first party front.
3rd parties I'm fretful about. I worry if Switch is too late to catch the cross-gen train. I worry if Switch is too late to re-energize 3DS developer confidence in portable market. I worry that Nintendo is not doing everything it can to get support and is instead being classic "we lead, you follow...except wait, you don't, do you?" Nintendo.
Switch could be so much, I just really really hope it is.
I'm feeling this myself. It's been ~2 years since any big titles came from Nintendo. We may be in for a treat
disappeared
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Is it likely pre-orders for the Switch will go live immediately following the January reveal? I haven't put money down on hardware in over a decade so I'm fuzzy on how these things work.
Opening soon.I'm feeling this myself. It's been ~2 years since any big titles came from Nintendo. We may be in for a treat
mattmagician
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Really excited for the Switch. Interested to see what kind of fun experiences they can figure out.
Pumped to be attending the event in NY, just...just gotta find somewhere to stay while I'm there still. But it's worth it!
Pumped to be attending the event in NY, just...just gotta find somewhere to stay while I'm there still. But it's worth it!
Milly Osworth
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Nintendo has good momentum?
Psycho_Mantis
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FFXV, KH2.8, KH3, FF7R. FF DIssidia looks pretty intense as well.
Are you joking right now?
Specifically for Switch? Since the October reveal, they've had a great momentum, magnitudes better than whatever they could get with Wii U.
Dark Cloud
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With the casual audience yes...lol I'm so glad I'm on vacation and not paying attention to "specs" news since again that's so important to many gamers.
I'll be looking forward to seeing games on Jan 12.
Suburban Thug
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I would say so. Their mobile games have been successful and Switch speculation/discussion dominates here. Casuals I have talked to seem intrigued.
That's my feeling as well even though I don't really get it. Regular people seem seduced by the idea but I'm not sure why. Maybe the novelty of it.
Skittzo0413
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With these specs why is it not a handheld? It's rumored to have a 5-8 hour battery life, cost $250 or less, and be above Wii U in power... That sounds like a phenomenal handheld!
Specs sure do matter, but as of now developers and insiders have only good things to say regarding ports and third parties. I only care about specs in that they are good enough to at least encourage more third party support, so if that support is still doable at these specs I'm happy, albeit a bit surprised.
Specs certainly didn't kill all the leaks, the fact that Nintendo will output more software than ever before, that third-party are more on board with this than with the Wii U (at least for the start) and so on.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Is it a generation ahead of Vita in specs? Yes. Then the specs are good enough. It really is that simple. It's a handheld. Set your expectations accordingly.
andthebeatgoeson
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Life after death.
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