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Nintendo Switch | Hardware Review Thread
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I own a WiiU but I will still get the Switch with Zelda at launch.
I totally get the hardwares current shortcomings, but I will have to buy the Switch when Mario and Xenoblade 2 launches anyway and the console won't be 100€+ cheaper by then so I might as well settle for the better performing and also portable Zelda version right away and also be part of the shiny new gaming hardware launch excitement.
I totally get the hardwares current shortcomings, but I will have to buy the Switch when Mario and Xenoblade 2 launches anyway and the console won't be 100€+ cheaper by then so I might as well settle for the better performing and also portable Zelda version right away and also be part of the shiny new gaming hardware launch excitement.
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That again just comes down to how interested one is on the slate of announced games. If I hadn't canceled my preorder I probably wouldn't have bought anything until Mario. Maybe SF2, but I don't see that as worth $40 so it would need to get a big sale. I also barely play SFV so I probably should just accept I'm not into fighting games anymore.
I barely played MK8 on Wii U as those games just don't grab me anymore, I loved Splatoon but burnt myself out on it hardcore and just have no desire for a sequel, Arms and all the indies, Bomberman etc. don't appeal to me. Didn't like Xenoblade Chronnicles so I don't care about the sequel. Maybe Fire Emblem Warriors if that does make it out this year as I liked Hyrule Warriors.
So there's just not much there for me. It would just gather dust and it's not like I need a third platform to fill in gaps right now as I'm overwhelmed with PS4/PC releases this year as is.
Next year or beyond the value proposition may hit a sweet spot for me after Mario is out, the next mainline Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing, maybe a new Metroid Prime, whatever Retro's new IP is if it's up my alley, maybe Smash and Mario Maker ports/updated versions, some decent third party Japanese games that appeal to me etc. And at that point their may be price drops, and if not bundles and retailer-specific offers that save me some cash.
Others like you are stoked for the line up of games this year and it's a great value proposition day one.
outunderthestars
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You could make that argument about literally every game or device these days. I have to ask: Would you be upset if the score was a 9.5?
Want to blame someone? Blame Nintendo for not pushing out the patch early enough that reviewers could receive it. Hundreds of thousands of preorders will start shipping today, and consumers deserve as much information as they can get before making the decision to keep their preorder.
Switch is a portable though (or so I'm told).
Omnistalgic
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Just finished reading the Kotaku review, man Nintendo are really pushing It with these shortcomings.
Im going to spend the next 2 months with Zelda so it's all I need to be happy, but man, talk about paying a premium for one game.
Think I'm going to skip on the storage and Pro controller right now and just treat this like a handheld. Will get more controllers for my wife and daughter once MARIO kart hits
Im going to spend the next 2 months with Zelda so it's all I need to be happy, but man, talk about paying a premium for one game.
Think I'm going to skip on the storage and Pro controller right now and just treat this like a handheld. Will get more controllers for my wife and daughter once MARIO kart hits
MikeBison
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Don't tease my fragile heart about a new Metroid Prime. It's easier on my soul to just never mention the possibility
There is still some unanswered questions regarding the hardware including the joycon fix if it can be a software fix or if it's a hardware fix. The lack of features in the OS at launch.
So his concerns are completely warranted even if the hardware is praised elsewhere, now will most things be fixed after launch? absolutely but I don't see anything wrong with what he said.
I would assume because PS4 is a boring visionless piece of technology that upon launch missed a number of features that the PS3 did have. Console hardware reviews always play out like this: it feels nice but unless you feel like you need it, it's better to wait and see. Seems like Switch already scores better than PS4 at launch, that's kind of hopeful, at the same time, yeah it's a launch, it's a gamble, so review sites are understandably standoffish. Cautious people buy later.
jts
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Agreed, well put.
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Don't tease my fragile heart about a new Metroid Prime. It's easier on my soul to just never mention the possibility
That, or even a well-reviewed 2D Metroid game, are the biggest things they could do to get me to take the plunge. I'd buy a Switch when a good, new Metroid game came out regardless of the rest of the library or the price/bundle situation at the time.
Jimmyfenix
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So did nintendo send out any games for review purposes that were not zelda or 1 - 2 switch?
I'm not saying that Nintendo needs to blow its load on launch by releasing all their exclusive games. They are smart to spread out those 1st party exclusive releases. What they need to do is assure users that the Switch will be a console that receives a healthy amount of diverse 3rd party support. On launch they should've had some recent 3rd party ports (e.g. Dishonored 2, Rocket League, Resident Evil 7, etc.) to attract an audience that aren't huge fans of Nintendo first party games.
Not that I saw, Those were the main two included from any of the videos of people recieving the switch but it is possible others were inlcuded.
The Futurist
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The difference here is that Switch is launching without basic things.
Not some far fetched ideas that have never been attempted before.
No VC. No Online. No streaming apps. No achievements system. No controller audio out. Horrendous 3rd party support.
Bundle those deficiencies with glaring issues with the hardware and you see why most reviewers have a wait and see mentality.
It will be a new firmware version as it includes new features as well as unlocking those that don't work as default (internet based features, which as soon as you connect it asks you to get the update).
It'l be 1.1 or 1.01 if the initial version is v1.
I dont know what reviews you are reading but i wouldn't say "very positive". We are looking at a hardware coming in very hot with a lot of features including some basic ones missing with a lackluster launch lineup with zelda being a huge standout. All the reviews lean towards wait and see unless you really want to play zelda... . Yes, i can see a lot of them seem to like the hardware and concept and i am confident there will be excellent nintendo games to justify the system down the line. I am getting one at launch to try out zelda mostly because i was able to get a good deal for trading ps4 since i got a pro. Lets see if i like zelda or if i will return it.
Besides Snipperclips, that's the entirety of games published by Nintendo that are at launch.
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On the other hand, it's clear that this is a portable first and their portables have always gotten iterations right from the Gameboy up through the 3DS. Discounting the Virtual Boy anyway.
They also have options to put out cheaper portable only, and maybe console only, versions down the road if sales are struggling as the hybrid concept doesn't seem to be taking off as most are using it one way or the other and the market isn't liking the higher prices due to having features they wouldn't use. Moot if it sells well of course, so only time will tell.
And still it scored higher than PS4 on the Guardian
Amazing.
Oh and it does have online, don't make stuff up.
Baleoce
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Many thanks!
The Futurist
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And currently it's sitting at a 6.7 on IGN.
Truly amazing.
You know what I mean by no online.
Okami Haundo
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Most reviewers had a "wait and see" mentality for PS4 and Xbox One as well. It's fair to criticize Switch's shortcomings, but lets not pretend that outlets were screaming "BUY BUY BUY" for the other two from day one.
Given how much hardware and interfaces change over a console's lifespan, the reviews don't really say anything I didn't already know or expected, but it's nice that a lot of people like the hardware and think that it's a solid foundation for their future despite what for some people are shortcomings.
It's very much at odds with their coverage so far, in an almost bewildering way.
It charges, but it's not unheard of.
IE: My ASUS laptop will charge, but if I leave it plugged in, on or in sleep mode, over time it usually discharges to 95% and that's generally where it stays. It won't recharge (as that would hurt the battery's overall life) but it won't be 100% when removed.
Isn't that every console?
Confused Cheeseburger
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I'm so unconcerned with the great fears about the system in these reviews. This really sounds in line with other console reviews. As a piece of tech it really is like nothing like the PS4 or xb1. You buy a console at launch fundementally based on potential, IMO. With Zelda, Arms, Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey for the year and an amazing indie line up rolling out weekly, I am satisfied.
The Futurist
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That's not what I am saying.
Wait and see for any launch is fine.
This thing is launching without basic functionality. Things that have existed in some cases for 2 console generations.
Because the person who wrote the review probably has different opinions from the people making Switch videos on their website. From how I understand it the guy who reviewed the console isn't even part of the IGN Nintendo team.
Oh, that would make sense then. Though I've seen Jose with the thing most of the time, so I just assumed he'd be the one doing the review of the system and Zelda.
OrbitalBeard
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So, basically how every new piece of gaming hardware should be reviewed.
Okami Haundo
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What exactly are you saying then?
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Very true. At the end of the day early adopting any new tech gadgets only makes since for the diehard fans and enthusiasts who just like having things from the get go.
To most everyone else, it's just not a good value to buy things early when they 1) cost the most they ever will, 2) have the least software and support they'll ever have, and 3) have the highest risk of hardware problems, manufacturing defects etc. they'll ever have.
Does it? I thought the online was coming in the summer.
The Futurist
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You don't need to be on a "team" to review a piece of hardware.
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The paid online service starts in the fall. The smartphone app for party chat etc. will be out later (think summer).
But games like MK8 can be played online before then. There's just no system level parties, chart etc., just game level match making (and chat if developers include it I'd guess).
yeah, if you watched the last NVC, they were gushing over it. only "negative" was jose saying it was warm after playing on the dock a while.
seems that Jose or Peer probably would have scored it higher (though I would hope/assume they had a say in the review)
More or less, bot other consoles have additional features such as streaming, blu-ray, back catalog, etc.
it does if you want to put on and pick it up by the joycons
Well you can't spell ignorant without IGN, we know this. I don't know what IGN's review in progress has to do with my answering someone who asked why Switch scored higher than PS4 at the Guardian though. Maybe you feel very strongly about PS4 that you feel the need to defend it.
No I don't. No party chat?
MisterR
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More ridiculous than amazing. Right now the Switch is a slab that plays Zelda and basically nothing more and if you don't spend an extra 70 bucks on a pro controller, you may have disconnect issues even doing that on your TV. That score is very generous.
Incorrect. Online functionality is available at launch
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