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[Incognito]

Developer: "Why in the hell would I want to develop for Revolution when I can make my game for Microsoft's or Sony's console?"

Nintendo rep: "Because we're Nintendo."

credit to reirom from OA who stole it from IGN.

 

[SolidSnakex]

I'm all for calling out Nintendo on arrogance, but WTF is this?

 

[Mejilan]

Source? (Not a fat Brazilian.)

Full interview? A little context would help...

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

IGN mailbag. According to Matt, a developer told him he had such a conversation with a Nintendo rep.

Take, for instance, a conversation a development head at a huge third-party studio relayed to me. His company was allegedly approached by a Nintendo rep and asked to begin developing something for Revolution. Here's how the conversation went, according to him:

Developer: "Why in the hell would I want to develop for Revolution when I can make my game for Microsoft's or Sony's console?"

Nintendo rep: "Because we're Nintendo."

End of conversation. I seriously hope this was an isolated incident and not a reflection of Nintendo's third-party outreach for Revolution.

http://cube.ign.com/mail.html

 

[TheQueen'sOwn]

Developer: "Why in the hell would I want to develop for Xenon when I can make my game for Nintendo or Sony's console?"

Microsoft rep: "Because we're Microsoft."

Developer: "Why in the hell would I want to develop for PS3 when I can make my game for Microsoft or Nintendo's console?"

Sony rep: "Because we're Sony."

etc.etc.etc.

Oh! and credit to me for doing these interviews....

 

[Kobun Heat]

There's lots of arrogance in that exchange, but not from Nintendo.

 

[MaddenNFL64]

The Nintendo rep who said that is obviously an ass, but WTF is wrong with that developer? No fucking class with the "Why the hell" comment.

 

[Kon Tiki]

There's lots of arrogance in that exchange, but not from Nintendo.

But really, why would they develop for Nintendo over sony/MS?

Nintendo has become the 3rd wheel.

 

[TheQueen'sOwn]

The Nintendo rep who said that is obviously an ass, but WTF is wrong with that developer? No fucking class with the "Why the hell" comment.

Yup. If anyone talked to me like that I'd tell them to go fuck themselves.

 

[fennec fox]

I'm sure Matt sexed it up a bit.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I'm sure Matt sexed it up a bit.

OOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooh Matt wants to sex you up!

 

[Kobun Heat]

But really, why would they develop for Nintendo over sony/MS?

Because things always change from generation to generation. As a developer, you need to hedge your bets and spread things around in the beginning, because you have no idea what's going to happen.

 

[RevenantKioku]

I'm sure Matt sexed it up a bit.

Perhaps, but then it only makes Nintendo look like the classy one in retrospect. (Really, how else would you reply to a smirky ass comment?)

 

[fennec fox]

Perhaps, but then it only makes Nintendo look like the classy one in retrospect.

That would be the point of IGN Cube reporting it, yes.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Because things always change from generation to generation. As a developer, you need to hedge your bets and spread things around in the beginning, because you have no idea what's going to happen.

Things will change, but it wont be in Nintendo favour.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Perhaps, but then it only makes Nintendo look like the classy one in retrospect. (Really, how else would you reply to a smirky ass comment?)

Neither look classy, one looks like an ass for even asking a question like that, the other looks like one for thinking they're still high and mighty.

 

[DSN2K]

is it me or does the developer look bad in that exchange ?

 

[Warm Machine]

If this is real it only proves what I think is going to happen next gen.

Developers will stereotype the console companies yet again and the prophecy will be self fullfilled.

 

[Claus]

So one rep who can't explain himself makes the entire company of Nintendo arrogant?

 

[RevenantKioku]

Neither look classy, one looks like an ass for even asking a question like that, the other looks like one for thinking they're still high and mighty.

Eh, I still think its one of the better responses they could have give.

 

[Kon Tiki]

So one rep who can't explain himself makes the entire company of Nintendo arrogant?

Its not a case of that at all tho.

He asked the developer for his side of the story.

He said, she said.

 

[DSN2K]

more like....

Developer: "Why in the hell would I want to develop for Xenon when I can make my game for Nintendo or Sony's console?"

Microsoft rep: "how many zero's"

Developer: "Why in the hell would I want to develop for PS3 when I can make my game for Microsoft or Nintendo's console?"

Sony rep: "Because we're the leader of the market, yeah the PS3 is going to be real pain for developers but thats not are problem is it! haha you want a PSP dev kit with that ?."

 

[Kobun Heat]

Sony rep: haha you want a PSP dev kit with that ?.

Developer: Yes, actually.

Sony rep: April Fool's!

 

[GaimeGuy]

Actually, I'm pretty sure from the context of the preceding comments by Matt from IGN, that he was just creating an example of the close-mindedness and secrecy of Nintendo, not citing an actual interview. Though I could be wrong.

 

[Ronin]

Sony rep: haha you want a PSP dev kit with that ?.

Developer: Yes, actually.

Sony rep: April Fool's!

ROFL.

 

[Drensch]

There's very few developers(especially American ones) who can get away with

"Why in the hell would I want to develop for Revolution when I can make my game for Microsoft's or Sony's console?"

I personally can't think of one, but who the hell do they think they are?

 

[AniHawk]

Who cares? It's not like it was anyone important that we know of on either side.

 

[drohne]

Developer: "Why in the hell would I want to develop for Revolution when I can make my game for Microsoft's or Sony's console?"

Nintendo rep: "My cat's name is Mittens."

it's no less relevant than "because we're nintendo!"

nintendo needs new reps. with a pitch like that, you're only going to get trivial vanity projects from miyamoto-besotted developers like kojima and naka. which i guess makes for lovely press conferences and mutually appreciative soundbytes. doesn't really fill out the library. but hey.

 

[GIR]

Nintendo has become the 3rd wheel.

Do you have any idea what that phrase means?

Things will change, but it wont be in Nintendo favour.

Thank you Nostradamus.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Do you have any idea what that phrase means?

Yes.

 

[GIR]

Yes.

Go on then

 

[Kobun Heat]

Thank you Nostradamus.

Heh. Maybe we're both just jerks, but I was going to post the exact same sentence.

 

[Idle Will Kill]

3rd wheeeeeel, 3rd wheeeeel, the legend of the 3rd wheeeeel
always getting in the way

 

[FortNinety]

(Really, how else would you reply to a smirky ass comment?)

You know, if I was the Nintendo rep, I think I would have said the same thing. Maybe not the best reply, but during the heat of the moment...

I still say this whole conversation was either made up or exaggerated.

 

[Musashi Wins!]

Heh. Maybe we're both just jerks, but I was going to post the exact same sentence.

You're the new, young, fresh voice of gaming and he's just some guy.

 

[Hellraizah]

Developer: "Why in the hell would I want to develop for Revolution when I can make my game for Microsoft's or Sony's console?"

Nintendo rep: "Because nobody else will be doing it, leaving the market wide open for Nintendo and....huh..... third...... parties."

Fixed.

 

[JayFro]

The bottom line is that if Nintendo wants devs to makes games for *Revolution* they need to kiss some serious ass. Look how 3rd party games sell on the cube overall, who would want to make games for Revolution when Nintendo is in decline in the console wars.

 

[Chesapeake Silt]

If you imagine the Nintendo rep as Reggie, the comedy value of this exchange goes through the roof.

 

[lordmrw]

If you imagine the Nintendo rep as Reggie, the comedy value of this exchange goes through the roof.

I imagine Reggie hulking out and chucking a few tables and chairs and whatnot. Sort of like the Ultimate Warrior when the Macho Man wanted a title shot.

 

[Kandinsky]

Neither look classy, one looks like an ass for even asking a question like that, the other looks like one for thinking they're still high and mighty.

But they are .

 

[ge-man]

If that quote is verbatim, I probably would've told that developer to go shove a PS2 up his ass if I was in the Nintendo rep's position. But since this is hersey to begin with, the quote proves nothing about either person's or company's attitude. Matt should be ashamed of himself for trying to support his stance with such filmsy evidence.

 

[jarrod]

Look how 3rd party games sell on the cube overall,

You mean on par with the XBox versions (besides sports games) and better if they're Japanese?

 

[JayFro]

You mean on par with the XBox versions (besides sports games) and better if they're Japanese?

When I said 3rd party I meant sports as well. Nice try though. Xbox and Gamecube don't really have many of the same titles to even compare sales numbers with in the first place. How did Splinter Cell sell on the Cube?

 

[Insertia]

Call it ignorance or arrogance. It seems to believe that third-parties should feel privileged to develop for its consoles as opposed to Sony and Microsoft, who offer third-parties incentive and support. And that, to me, is the scariest part of it.

You mean on par with the XBox versions (besides sports games) and better if they're Japanese?

What Gamecube 3rd party game this year has sold over 400k copies in a single territory?

 

[Kon Tiki]

When I said 3rd party I meant sports as well. Nice try though. Xbox and Gamecube don't really have many of the same titles to even compare sales numbers with in the first place. How did Splinter Cell sell on the Cube?

How did Soccer Slam sell on Xbox?

 

[JayFro]

How did Soccer Slam sell on Xbox?

Horrible niche title, and I'm sure Splinter Cell more than makes up for any kind of numbers Soccer Slam put up.

You can't make any decent comparisons because many 3rd party games that sell decent on Xbox are rated M. Many 3rd party games that sell well on the cube are E. Comparisons just aren't happening.

 

[etiolate]

All that is to be learned here is that IGN gets dumber by the day.

What Gamecube 3rd party game this year has sold over 400k copies in a single territory?

Tales of Symphonia in Japan would be the closest, but I am not sure of its total sales.

 

[Kon Tiki]

Horrible niche title, and I'm sure Splinter Cell more than makes up for any kind of numbers Soccer Slam put up.

You can't make any decent comparisons because many 3rd party games that sell decent on Xbox are rated M. Many 3rd party games that sell well on the cube are E. Comparisons just aren't happening.

They are both late ports.

One being a a niche title, the other being a sports game.

 

[Insertia]

Tales of Symphonia in Japan would be the closest, but I am not sure of its total sales.

Symphonia was released last year.

 

[jarrod]

When I said 3rd party I meant sports as well. Nice try though.

Try what? Unless you're talking strictly sports releases, GameCube and XBox sales are generally comparable, while PS2 is way ahead. Not always the case sure, but that seems to be the trend. Overall GC & XBox have moved around the same amount of software (100 million units each) while PS2 has moved almost 5 times that.

Xbox and Gamecube don't really have many of the same titles to even compare sales numbers with in the first place.

Sure they do, almost everything from EA, UbiSoft and Activision for example.

How did Splinter Cell sell on the Cube?

Horribly but then that's what you get releasing an inferior outsourced product half a year later. How well did Sonic Heroes sell on XBox?