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[BlackTron]

Nintendo is insultingly egregious in its anti-consumerism, but the hard fact is that gaming companies suck period. It's 2025 and many people still don't seem to get that.

I am a PlayStation only gamer. Sony is not my friend. Sony is not my ally. Sony is not looking out for my best interests. Neither is Nintendo, Xbox, Valve, Google, Apple, Epic, or anyone else I failed to mention. To these entities, we are resources to be harvested and disposed of. Anyone who is walking around with a brand loyalty mentality thinking that they have some kind of special relationship with their monolithic corporate overlord is not living in reality. They have crossed into that space where they have made a corporate brand their identity.

I game on PlayStation because I like their hardware, their software, their ecosystem, and it all fits well into my playstyle. Like any corporation, sometimes Sony makes moves that I am not a fan of, or outright disagree with. Because they're a massive corporation whose goal is to make as much money as possible. This silly narrative that some companies are heroes and others are villains is ludicrous. They're all villains.

Nintendo's largest problem in this capacity is that their greed and entitlement is sometimes so profound that they allow the mask to slip and show the entire world how little they care about gamers and emphasize that we are just walking piggy banks to be gobbled up.

There will always be a subset of people on any platform who will follow it into the fires of hell, cheering on the worst and most anti-consumer of decisions because that corporation they've chosen to sell their soul to can do no wrong in their eyes. It's a very sad, childish state of mind but these people will always be there to carry the proverbial flag no mater how ill-treated by their masters they are.

You aren't wrong, the thing about Nintendo is that in pursuit of that blatant greed, they have chosen the tactic of making fun, quality games people want to play by retaining talent and taking care of their workforce well. So, we deal with their bullshit sometimes because we approve of their methods, want the game, and IMO, want to support those methods. That is why I have no issue paying full price for a new N game, it's usually actually completed, a good game, on-cart, and the people who helped make it move on to make the next game with more experience together instead of being moved or fired, which is good for me, someone who wants more good games.

Of course the end result is their bank account adding up, and they let slip that obvious reality with decisions like the laughable $10 welcome tour or paid upgrades. But like you explained about Playstation no one is going to base how badly they want to relax playing a game by adding up all the "anti-consumer decisions" of that company. They're my "friend" only in the sense that as long as we continue this cynical business relationship, they continue to develop games how I like to see.

 

[LakeOf9]

It's funny how Nintendo is and sells only for kids and also sells based on nostalgia. How come?

Says who?

Well, unlike Nintendo fans, I'll be the first to criticize Sony even if I've been on Playstation since the 1st.
Now, if you like playing Mario kart 37, good for you.

Can you list the 37 Mario Kart games? Thanks

 

[cireza]

You know who else gets a Pass?

Xbox.

and now one says anything.

 

[AREYOUOKAY?]

Well, unlike Nintendo fans, I'll be the first to criticize Sony even if I've been on Playstation since the 1st.
Now, if you like playing Mario kart 37, good for you.

Man discovers video games are old and have multiple sequels or reboots over the years depending on how successful they are. News at 11.

 

[Kataploom]

It's 2025, it's unacceptable having to pay for online at all

You don't have to, but if you're playing on consoles it's not "unacceptable" because that's the standard for ALL of them, it's quite literally the norm and very very acceptable

 

[PurePlatinum]

I wouldn't describe it as a pass...it's completely transactional. With Nintendo you put up with some bullshit that nobody else would get away with, but in return you get 1st party games that are lightyears ahead of what anybody else is capable of doing.

 

[Kataploom]

Not from me Didn't buy andy if their products this year, fuck 'em.

Sadly

(tbh that makes more fun of the ordinary people than youtube nintendo farmers)

This is something I criticized a lot during the Switch 2 Direct misinformation and rage bait days... Many of those MF bitching about Switch 2 and sharing fake news and overreacting to them and then when preorders opened they were all like "OMG it was so difficult but finally got my preorder!!" and so... Really I started blocking and silencing youtubers on social media and YouTube because I knew that was gonna be the case, just rage bait in order to get clicks, like mf are constantly starving or whatever

 

[onnextflix5]

yeh don't forget vrr and hdr is broken on system, they are a joke,

 

[Lokaum D+]

You don't have to, but if you're playing on consoles it's not "unacceptable" because that's the standard for ALL of them, it's quite literally the norm and very very acceptable

Lol, that is the way of thinking that ll kill games, its standard cause console users ( me included ) likes to eat shit quiet, the moment console users riot and stop paying for bs, companies ll stop selling bs, but this ll never happen since fomo is a real thing and ppl just find bad pratices "the norm" and "acceptable", this shit would never flies on PC and you know why ? Cause PC players wont let them do It.

Companies just bought we by giving us a u$2 game for free every month while charging us u$10 for online services.

 

[justiceiro]

I wonder if this thread is a social experiment to see when people will realize the title is spelled incorrectly...

 

[Kataploom]

Lol, that is the way of thinking that ll kill games, its standard cause console users ( me included ) likes to eat shit quiet, the moment console users riot and stop paying for bs, companies ll stop selling bs, but this ll never happen since fomo is a real thing and ppl just find bad pratices "the norm" and "acceptable", this shit would never flies on PC and you know why ? Cause PC players wont let them do It.

Companies just bought we by giving us a u$2 game for free every month while charging us u$10 for online services.

Make the difference, stop paying and move on from consoles for online gaming

 

[Lokaum D+]

Make the difference, stop paying and move on from consoles for online gaming

i Did, 99% of my gaming is on PC

 

[LakeOf9]

I wonder if this thread is a social experiment to see when people will realize the title is spelled incorrectly...

I feel like we all knew this from the get go?

 

[Kataploom]

I wonder if this thread is a social experiment to see when people will realize the title is spelled incorrectly...

I realized but we're too used to GigaBowser to care now

i Did, 99% of my gaming is on PC

Lol, that is the way of thinking that ll kill games, its standard cause console users ( me included ) likes to eat shit quiet, the moment console users riot and stop paying for bs, companies ll stop selling bs, but this ll never happen since fomo is a real thing and ppl just find bad pratices "the norm" and "acceptable", this shit would never flies on PC and you know why ? Cause PC players wont let them do It.

Companies just bought we by giving us a u$2 game for free every month while charging us u$10 for online services.

 

[Lokaum D+]

I realized but we're too used to GigaBowser to care now

are you dumb or just like to pretend ? you know that me playing on PC 99% of the time nowadays doesn't make my years of paying for online services disappears right ?? thats why i ll include me as part of the problem too.

 

[Kataploom]

are you dumb or just like to pretend ? you know that me playing on PC 99% of the time nowadays doesn't make my years of paying for online services disappears right ?? thats why i ll include me as part of the problem too.

Oh ok ok that makes more sense lol

 

[GigaBowser]

GigaBowser

he saved gaming they said

 

[The_Mike]

You don't have to, but if you're playing on consoles it's not "unacceptable" because that's the standard for ALL of them, it's quite literally the norm and very very acceptable

And yet, it should be unacceptable.

It is because console players dont really have an alternative, they are forced to pay.

 

[MSduderino]

And yet, it should be unacceptable.

It is because console players dont really have an alternative, they are forced to pay.

This thread is targeting nintendo being different than Sony/MS, so it comes off as selective when you complain about Nintendo making you pay for online when the others do too (at more expensive as well).

 

[darrylgorn]

It's even worse when you find out how much less Japanese people are paying for Switch 2 stuff. Like paying 20 US dollars less for Mario Kart World and $340 for the system.

Hm.. I wonder why..

 

[Hero_Select]

You aren't wrong, the thing about Nintendo is that in pursuit of that blatant greed, they have chosen the tactic of making fun, quality games people want to play by retaining talent and taking care of their workforce well. So, we deal with their bullshit sometimes because we approve of their methods, want the game, and IMO, want to support those methods. That is why I have no issue paying full price for a new N game, it's usually actually completed, a good game, on-cart, and the people who helped make it move on to make the next game with more experience together instead of being moved or fired, which is good for me, someone who wants more good games.

Of course the end result is their bank account adding up, and they let slip that obvious reality with decisions like the laughable $10 welcome tour or paid upgrades. But like you explained about Playstation no one is going to base how badly they want to relax playing a game by adding up all the "anti-consumer decisions" of that company. They're my "friend" only in the sense that as long as we continue this cynical business relationship, they continue to develop games how I like to see.

It also helps that for the most part, while every publisher is releasing full priced game filled with micro transactions - Nintendo releases full and extremely polished games. They get their marketing for a bit and then they move on and I think they have a really solid release cadence filled with variety.

Mario Kart at launch
DK Bananza now
Metroid Prime 4 later
Pokemon around November