Is that why Bloodborne sold like 200k? Or why Dark Souls 3 sold about the same?
Because they don't like hard games? I think generalizations of that kind make no sense.
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Nioh Review Thread
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Is that why Bloodborne sold like 200k? Or why Dark Souls 3 sold about the same?
Because they don't like hard games? I think generalizations of that kind make no sense.
I think they're all just busy playing 3DS games and FFIV
Edit: Also yeah, joking aside, I was going to mention that I'd gotten my ass kicked in souls games many times by Japanese players. Despite the fact that every publication spends half its review comparing Nioh to Dark Souls, I think that in gameplay it's much closer to Ninja Gaiden. Did those games (the classic ones, not NG3) do well in Japan?
On one hand I'm massively generalizing here, but it's not really comparable between Nioh and Dark Souls 3, one has had 5(ish) in the series and is well regarded, and one is a new IP. Name recognition means a lot.
Dark Souls proves you wrong.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
That has nothing to do with not liking hard games though.
The game is just not on the radar of a lot of people, even though its been creeping up online because of the metacritic scores and the Neogaf hype(yes japanese sites pay attention to this thread)
In Japan last week it was at like 15, then it went to 13, then 10, then it was at 8 and now its at 5 on Amazon
To be clear I'm mostly referring to this. The asia region thought the game was far more difficult than the rest of the world.
Tarkus
Member
I could have sworn I saw a broadsword or some kind of long sword in a video review. I don't remember getting one of those in the beta. I could've looked over it.
That has to do with mechanics as well, the game was severely unbalanced at the time and had a few dumb control decisions that even many players of the Alpha in the west will tell you.
Now its actually in a good state because of that feedback specifically
They're just regular katanas as far as the game is concerned.
Tarkus
Member
I see. You mean in terms of classes.
I agree there were issues with the alpha, I beat it as well and it was much tougher than the game is currently. However I'm just talking about different regions response to the same alpha.
That doesn't say they think it is difficult though. Just that they thought difficulty and balance weren't that good which is what I thought about the alpha too. It was all over the place.
Shit this game might bomb hard in Japan than Berserk considering this game must have a higher budget, lmao.
I don't think Berserk is very good though...
Kazuo Hirai
I really want everyone to know how much more Titanfall 2 sold than Nioh. It was a staggering amount.
You talk about budget so only consider Japan is hilarious.
And budget might from Sony, who publish it worldwide except Japan
SamuelSupreme
Banned
Really happy to see this so well recieved. I loved every second of the demo that I played.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Japan seems to have become an unreliable market for non-established franchises. Must be pretty terrifying developing a game that is so Japan-focussed in those circumstances.
Yep that's what I mean.
Is it really that Japan-focused? Or is it western-movie-Japan-focused?
Edit: western as in geography, not as in clint eastwood
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
This is kinda turning into the Nioh OT right now. Maybe we can put up the OT since the game is launching so soon?
I hope so. Been praying for one ~
Noooooooooo
Snowybreak
Member
I seriously cannot get over how much the main character looks like Geralt.
Also I didn't realize this was PS4 only.
Also I didn't realize this was PS4 only.
This is kinda turning into the Nioh OT right now. Maybe we can put up the OT since the game is launching so soon?
I hope so. Been praying for one ~
Noooooooooo
There has to be a spear naginata skin for sure.
Kazuo Hirai
I really want everyone to know how much more Titanfall 2 sold than Nioh. It was a staggering amount.
It is not Japan focus,No pantsu
I watched a few Nier live streams, found that streamers "focus" on pantsu, it is Japan-focus.
RustyNails
Member
Darn. I like good videogames but I really need a decent story to keep me going. Maybe its just me getting older.
I'm on your same time zone (Texas) and the preload says that the game will be playable in 1 day 9 hours 39 minutes. In other words. 11 pm on Monday
Katana (single or dual) unsheathe attack is straight fire though. It's unfair.Yeah, the katana was a mistake. It's nothing but trash.
I refuse to use anything but the Katanas. I like my parry + quickdraw too much.
Dual katanas feel op as hell too, quickdraw + several spammy shits to wreck all shit up on opening. All of the shit. Recked.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
So the weapon type list goes like this?
Katanas
Spears
Axes
Kusarigamas
Bows
Rifles
Where are my tonfas and nunchakus?
Katanas
Spears
Axes
Kusarigamas
Bows
Rifles
Where are my tonfas and nunchakus?
Coriolanus
Banned
Katana is the universal weapon, tbh. Got parries, kicks, iaijutsu, good damage. Absurdly versatile, moveset is easy to understand. Solid wep.
Plus for some reason single katana was the most common weapon drop for me in both the beta and lcs
Theres also dual kats and cannons, fwiw. Cannon differs from matchlock rifles
Plus for some reason single katana was the most common weapon drop for me in both the beta and lcs
Theres also dual kats and cannons, fwiw. Cannon differs from matchlock rifles
GravityInsanity
Member
11:00pm Monday
Coriolanus
Banned
So the weapon type list goes like this?
Katanas
Spears
Axes
Kusarigamas
Bows
Rifles
Where are my tonfas and nunchakus?
Yeah unfortunately.
Here's hoping those three DLC in the season pass will add more.
All PS4 games install on the HDD.
Sure, but people were crucifying the reviewer for saying something a lot of people were saying right here and no one was getting called out or anything.
Not to mention that the two things don't have to be mutually exclusive, a boss can have too much health and still go down very quickly against an experienced player. For example, the optional boss in The Old Hunters. He goes down in less than a minute in speedruns, but it's still a boss with a fuckton of HP.
The perfect Dark
Banned
Stream didin't work, sorry. I don't know why though, my internet connection was fine.
Managed to beat her in my second try with the spear, lol.
dat new weapon.
edit: I don't know what happened during that fight. Somehow I got lightning power instead of my fire power, lol.
Managed to beat her in my second try with the spear, lol.
dat new weapon.
edit: I don't know what happened during that fight. Somehow I got lightning power instead of my fire power, lol.
Grats!!
So the weapon type list goes like this?
Katanas
Spears
Axes
Kusarigamas
Bows
Rifles
Where are my tonfas and nunchakus?
In Yakuza 0
False Witness
Member
Did you happen to switch your guardian spirit? Or, the spear you were using had lightning on it and the katana you were using before had fire on it.
Also, now that you've beat her once, I just know you'll be able to go back and destroy her with any weapon. It may seem weird, but once you beat a boss once, it somehow becomes super easy to beat them again and again.
Yu Narukami
Member
Which skill is that the one that revives you when you die? I need that asap.
Are you still on HE? When I fought her she schooled me for a while so I went to farm bloody graves, I leveled up a bit etc. When I came back it was much better. Surely there are other things you can do rather than banging your head against the same wall. You might need to think about what you can do to give yourself some advantage.
I think most of the stat upgrades increase effectiveness for different weapon subsets rather than focusing on a single weapon. From what I played the real progression system is skill/knowledge rather than weapon stats, so I'm sure you could advance successfully with whatever stat priorities you wanted.
He beat her on his second try with a spear.