Because you refuse to accept the idea of one PS4 with Nintendo games on it out of some delusional sense of tribalism. Nintendo games on a rival platform is not some form of capitulation.
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Now that the PS4 has already outsold the Wii U, where does Nintendo go from here?
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Because you refuse to accept the idea of one PS4 with Nintendo games on it out of some delusional sense of tribalism. Nintendo games on a rival platform is not some form of capitulation.
Apophis2036
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Yeah shipped but I think they will sell a lot of them come the next price cut and MK8. I think they will have sold 6 million WiiU's by the end of May.
I don't see anything on the horizon for PS4 that is going to propel it past that number by June.
PS4 launch sales are fantastic, I bought one on release day myself but I think sales are going to slow down dramatically by the end of Jan once the people that wanted one for Xmas but missed out finally get one.
So I just bought a Wii U and look forward to playing it. Have a ps4 also. At this point there are more games out for Wii U that I want to play than Ps4 games. I also missed out on the Wii so I'm excited about that. All of this failure stuff makes me sad because I played the one or two good games on PS4 already and see it's already at the Wii U basically sales wise. Maybe I shouldn't give a fuck about sales.
It's okay to give a fuck about sales, but they shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the console.
Interceptor
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Nintendo should buy Sony and make it their 3rd Party division.
Pancakes R Us
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How many of those are sitting unsold on shelves and in warehouses I wonder? I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo has to stop manufacturing the system for a while like GC.
BruiserBear
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lol at this entire post
it frustrates me that they still haven't made good use of the gamepad beyond nintendoland (imo, of course). when i played those 5 player minigames, i thought that would be only the beginning. i thought we'd have full games based around that by now. yes, it's useful to have a map screen always available, but that's basically all it is in most games. the 4 vs 1 local multiplayer thing is great.
TDLink
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Because?
illmatic22
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Nope nope nope Sixers need him more.
Bluekaveli
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With OPs name, avy, and the use of the word "goon", this might be the thread of the year so far.
Apophis2036
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So what is the official WiiU lifetime sales at taking into account any NPD and Japanese sales since the last official figures ?. Hasn't it sold 250 - 300k alone in Japan in the past month ?.
shinobi602
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It'll struggle to sell 1.8 million units in the next 5 months? Come on now.
Jimmyfenix
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It might finally be time.
Like, actually.
Yes it is time.
K
kittens
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Same thread, different title.
It doesn't really matter when you look at the timescales involved. It's clearly going to overtake the Wii U as quickly as they can manufacture units. Plus, you need to look at the XBone numbers to truly see what's going on. Third parties now have 7 million next gen owners to target, and they'll build games that won't be on the Wii U.
Assuming it hasn't been overtaken yet, the Wii U is just a rabbit in the headlights of the other two consoles.
At this point that's all they have is the core fanatic. People like to repeat the mantra "get Nintendo for Nintendo games" but that bs doesn't sell consoles. What made snes one of the greatest consoles ever was the third party games in addition to Nintendo games. They've gone off the deep end hoping lightning will strike with each new gimmick they come up with but it's just not gonna happen. They need a more well rounded library and 3rd parties to fill in the gaps with quality software. As long as it's just a Nintendo box they'll never be my first choice.
I doubt the PS4 has outsold the Wii U yet. The Wii U had sold 3.9m according to Nintendo on (I think) the 30th September last year. The PS4 has sold 4.2m. Are we really supposed to believe that Nintendo hasn't sold more than 300,000 between 30th September and 28th December..? I know that it's not selling well but it must have sold more than 300,000 units during that time. I guess we'll find out at the end of the month at Nintendo's investors meeting.
If you mean the Nintendo 64 stick, that was digital, not analog.
metalslimer
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I can already tell you this is not happening. First of all Nintendo is not dropping the price when they are losing money. Second, even if they did they would not sell that many Wii Us
People need to stop conflating shipped with sold. That 3.9 million was shipped with a bunch of stock on the shelves. 4.2 is sold to customers, so Wii U is probably ahead, but no it's likely not by that much.
FlashbladeGAF
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It might finally be time.
Like, actually.
LOL as long as Nintendo, Platinum, and Monolift Soft continue to make good games I'll continue to turn it on.
Unless Miyamoto has a game changer that's about all they can do at this point.
opticalmace
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Why bother posting if you have nothing to contribute?
Mihael Mello Keehl
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OP is just a bunch of filler talk..why do yall do that. Im reading a bunch of stuff that dont even mean nothing.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Perceptions of the PS4 and Xbox One's libraries would be dramatically altered if Nintendo published on both platforms. They would suddenly look like consoles for all age groups instead of so called "mature gamer" consoles.
See You Next Wednesday
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Nintendo's only recourse
Seriously, they can pull the plug on the Wii-U right now & release a new console by November that outperforms the PS4 in power & they'll be right on the track.
Seriously, they can pull the plug on the Wii-U right now & release a new console by November that outperforms the PS4 in power & they'll be right on the track.
And we will eat it up
Because those are two entirely different situations. Wii U has been out for a year, and PS4 catching up to it so quickly in a month pretty much spells how bad the Wii U situation is. Its not the same to say "PS4 outsold Xbox One" since they both released around the same time.
you do realize that a lot of people do get their tax refunds here in the US in february right. there is still infamous driveclub , mgs 5, mlb the show to come by march which doesn't include any indie games and f2p games like planetside 2. even though some of them have current gen version i think a lot of people are ready to jump into next gen after 7 or 8 years of these old consoles and play the prettier and better running versions of those multiplat games. i think people are going to be surprised at how well ps4 is going to sell the next few months. i would include xbox one as well with titanfall and pvz2 for the casuals in march but that price tag is a huge disadvantage for them but they should sell well atleast in march and maybe they will have a titanfall bundle with 3 month live for 499 because that would push a lot of people to throw in the extra 100 bucks.
Psycho_Mantis
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Console sells 600k in 6 months. Predicts it to sell 1.5 million in 5 months.
Console sells 4.2 million in 1.5 months. Predicts it to 1.8 million in 5 months.
That logic.
Excellent post. I'd draw a parallel to Sony here. They went through their wilderness with the PS3. They were lost and appear to have buckled down and focused on making hardware and services and software that consumers really want, instead of ...whatever the PS3 ended up being.
I love my PS3, and I've gotten tons of enjoyment out of it -- but the first few years were painful to watch. Sony had to work very hard to get where they are with it today, much harder than they should have had to work.
That trip through the wilderness sharpened Sony, and appears to have prepared them for this moment. Hopefully Nintendo can spend the next two years, during which they alone will be able to support the Wii U, building the skills and framework for a new system at the end of 2015 (at best). They should acquire what they cannot grow, and grow where they have the best opportunities.
TonkuySlon
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The current state of Nintendo makes me sad...my first two gaming consoles as a kid starting at 11 years of age were the original Nintendo and SNES...
Sucks that they have fallen like they have...so many childhood memories.
Sucks that they have fallen like they have...so many childhood memories.
MrNyarlathotep
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The man has a point though.
Who's hurt more by the PS4 being a runaway success, the competitor that shares 95% of the same library and costs $100 more, or the one that from the start was destined to share almost none of its library and is $100 cheaper?
Chinpoko_Master
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In denial a bit? Yes, this thread could be about the XB1 but it would be a vastly different thread. The PS4 is about to pass the Wii U in sales, and it only took it 2 months, while the Wii U has been out over a year. The XB1 has been out a month and a half, so it's not quite the same discussion.
Plus, every thread about sales is ultimately compares XB1 vs PS4 anyways XD
Interceptor
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wouldn't them buying Sony make it their 1st Party division?
Sure. But they could release former Sony games as iOS exclusives. Would be fun just for the reaction. Buy Sony and make it your "mature" brand for the Fifa and casual crowd.
Apophis2036
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Do you think Infamous or Driveclub are games to drive hardware sales because I certainly don't.
PS4 and Xbone were always going to do amazing numbers from Nov - Jan when all the hardcore gamers ran out to buy one but come Feb there will be a massive tail off in sales imo. I don't believe many people outside of the hardcore will pay $400 (more like almost $600 for a console, two games and a PS+ sub) to play mostly multiplatform games available on systems they already have at a better resolution / framerate.
I bought my PS4 one day one because I care about playing games at the best possible settings on consoles but I have to say the year one exclusive line up for PS4 is pretty awful.
I will never get this kind of thought, we haven't had a Donkey Kong game since the N64, more than 8 years ago. We finally get one on the Wii and now everyone complains that Nintendo releases the "same old, same old" games.
Either way I would be happy if Nintendo supported the Wii U a few years and then announce that they are quitting the console market to focus on handheld system. Because we all know that Nintendo wont reach out to 3:rd party developers no matter how grim the situation is. I mean they should be doing it now but they arent which shows where they stand. and they have a really big problem making Wii U games when they have the 3DS at the same time
So...
1. Create new games for the Wii U for another 2-3 year down the road
2. start R&D on a new handheld which is both cheap and powerful using new tech from Qualcomm or Nvidia from this year.
3. Announce year 2016 that there wont be a next console but at the same time they announce a new handheld
4. making portable games equal to Wii U should be easier when they have been creating HD games from the Wii U for a few years
MesserWolf
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They should really focus in being a family / kid friendly console (and price drop).
It is the only scenario I can see them at least saving what they can save of the WiiU
They have lost the hardcore gamers even before starting by releasing a sub-par hardware. No more gimmicks to redeemed them this time around
It is the only scenario I can see them at least saving what they can save of the WiiU
They have lost the hardcore gamers even before starting by releasing a sub-par hardware. No more gimmicks to redeemed them this time around
Skellig Gra
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It's not really the point. My point is this thread has been done to death. It's obviously going to outsell it soon, so why do we need to jump the gun when the thread happens anew every day anyway?
metalslimer
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The problem is you're underestimating the number of core gamers
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