outunderthestars
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There is nothing good about the Vita's situation.
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NPD December 2012 Sales Results [Up2: Xbox 360, All Nintendo Hardware, NSMB Wii U]
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There is nothing good about the Vita's situation.
Is there any year to compare 2012 with as far as percentage drops YoY (on a monthly basis)?
I expect being the tail end of a console gen, it would have as much in common with 2004/05 moreso than any other period. But it's worrying to see consistent double-digit percentage drops on last year even in December.
Everything seems flat/stale. 360 is doing well for an old system, long tail there. 3DS is doing modestly well, I suppose. But other than that I dont see any shining lights in the US market for a long time.
I expect being the tail end of a console gen, it would have as much in common with 2004/05 moreso than any other period. But it's worrying to see consistent double-digit percentage drops on last year even in December.
Everything seems flat/stale. 360 is doing well for an old system, long tail there. 3DS is doing modestly well, I suppose. But other than that I dont see any shining lights in the US market for a long time.
I'll freaking murder someone.
AdventureRacing
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How much did it sell exactly? I got outsold by the combined SKU's of just dance and COD but that relly tells us nothing. Halo 4 will probably end up being the second best selling halo of all time. It doesn't have the same influence it used to but it's still a very big franchise.
ViewtifulJC
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why did I laugh at this
lunchwithyuzo
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We already know Sony's 1st party games usually bomb.
MisterNoisy
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Holy shit, that's dire.
The fact that its a port of a niche game put out by Atlus means that the low numbers are bad but not too bad.
The numbers are sad either way I guess.
specialguy
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i'm not sure if 3rd in dec is supposed to be good or bad? seems kinda good to me for a single platform title.
cant really compare to recent past halos cause they all came out in sep.
outunderthestars
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I think the 3DS can carve out a healthy (but not DS level) of success by continuing to drive the hardware price down and focus on innovative and unique software. I think it is time for Nintendo to include a digital pack in game on every 3DS. They could even make it a voucher for any first party title.
KillerTravis
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Relying on third parties to deliver the sales is what is doing them harm now imo. Maybe a vita Gran Turismo can save it.
Phonomezer
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I'd imagine the guy that used to write their PR is sitting in the corner of a dark room rocking back and forth at this stage.
haha, oh dear.
UberTag
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Given the sorry state of third-party efforts on 3DS and the wasteland that is the WiiU, I'd have to say that aside from the Wii still being a Just Dance machine Nintendo's prospects of salvaging Western third-party support is practically irreparable.
And with most of Japanese-developed titles going 3DS only, we'll continue to see very few localizations for 3DS-exclusive titles barring low-budget efforts of ultra-fringe titles courtesy of Atlus, NIS and XSEED.
I take back what I said earlier... Iwata DOES need to be fired.
outunderthestars
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You asked if their systems sold third party software. I showed you that it did. That would explain why third parties continue to support Sony hardware even when it lags behind the competition in sales.
specialguy
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75k views and 31 pages. who said npd day was dead?
metalslimer
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I guess that's why localizatons have been so slow and nonexistant. The prospects right now for the future of handheld localization is not great. Also I guess we know why Japanese 3rd parties are scared to put games on 3DS. If the series isn't Japanese centric, it could probably be better served somewhere else.
No his point was using Vita to show that just because a Sony system is having terrible 3rd party sales doesn't mean all Sony platforms have terrible 3rd party sales. The same way the 3DS can't be used to show that "Of course 3rd party game sales are bad".
No his point was using Vita to show that just because a Sony system is having terrible 3rd party sales doesn't mean all Sony platforms have terrible 3rd party sales. The same way the 3DS can't be used to show that "Of course 3rd party game sales are bad".
PopcornMegaphone
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Honestly this is the biggest thing killing Western localizations.
Even if it's a profit, it can still not be worth it.
If anything shows 3DS has a relatively casual userbase in the US for now. Sadly what appeals to casuals has just shifted so much. Once you get the pokefreaks etc in you can probably start to see a shift
and thats why the e-shop/DD are fantastic.
niche stuff like guild 01 is able to come over with absolutely minimal marketing and distribution cost.
I get the comparison, but isn't it kind of a false equivalency without actual numbers
Like even if 3rd parties don't account for 19 of the top 20 on the DS.. perhaps the first 11 3rd party titles sold better than the 11 of 17 on the PSP?
If that makes sense.. just because one is lopsided at the top.. doesn't mean the tops are equal in terms of pure volume.
Thunder Monkey
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All it took was the underwhelming second month of a new Nintendo platform.
Good news is? We're going to be seeing a lot of underwhelming months for this new Nintendo platform.
UberTag
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It's too bad we can't get a truly clear picture on overall software performance for the Vita without digital numbers.
This is significant given that the Vita is the one system where every single title available can be purchased digitally.
you're probably as dead inside as i am.
metalslimer
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I wonder if Atlus is considering a PS3 port of Golden...I wouldn't be opposed.
Wouldn't be much different unless digital sales are massive right now.
Wouldn't be much different unless digital sales are massive right now.
Cheesecakebobby
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Imagine what an even barely competent ios port of Declassified would bring in...
ViewtifulJC
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Don't worry, that Thunder Monkey Wii-U announcement at the Feb. ND should spice things up
Sticking Wii-U Gamepads in you butt has never been more fun
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
The PS2 version of P4 didn't light the world on fire. At all.
I'm surprised P4G sold as well as it did to be honest.
Thunder Monkey
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outunderthestars
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Why would this boost sales? It's not like the people buying DS's and Wii's don't know that these new systems don't exist. They simply don't want them.
We Dare U
TheNatural
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True, that's why I suggested the digital download and grassroots type localization option. Or like how they got Last Story and Xenosaga out in the US somehow. That may just be the future for almost all the Japanese games in the US 3DS wise.
MisterNoisy
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I find myself curious as to how digital sales have been on the PSV too, since you ultimately pay a fair bit more that way once you factor in overpriced storage media.
Thunder Monkey
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I have a fully animated Thunder Monkey model for just such a situation.
He's wearing a diaper though.
ViewtifulJC
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The rumble feature is used quite innovately
Sakura
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Just because most of the top 20 selling on the DS were first party isn't proof that 3rd party games didn't perform well on the system. All it is showing is that Nintendo's first party games were very popular.
Thunder Monkey
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First in a long line of prostate gaming.
lunchwithyuzo
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So 3rd parties care about sales rankings, not sales numbers? That's all you've shown.
Thunder Monkey
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We're only two months in. We can see which way the trajectory is pointed, but with no idea of where the floor is.
I think you are going to see more titles particularly out of Japan being E-shop only. The industry is just not healthy enough to take chances even for small profits with a retail model.
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Depends how you manage your downloaded games - many of mine I just back up to my computer when not in use, and move them back when I want to play them, so I don't have to buy a huge memory card. I only have 2-3 games on there at a time. Not to excuse their shitty memory card situation, but digital doesn't always mean a higher cost
Narpas Sword0
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I laughed a lot
So nintendo raised the price... to suck out the money out of Nintendo Fans and first buy sales, and then will probably lower the price.
Little Green Yoda
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So 500k people shelled out $20+ for Angry Birds on the 3DS when they could've gotten it for free on iOS/Android (or paid a few bucks at the most)? Is there something about the 3DS version that I'm missing or does this punch a gaping hole in the "nobody is going to pay $$$ now that smartphone games cost only $" theory?
Now watch the new Angry birds to have a price tag, and if that doesnt sell they'll just move to retail, since it seems they can sell.