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NPD Sales Results for April 2014 [Up2: XB1/360 hardware, PS4 #1/XB1 #2 best selling]

Pain

Banned
But but best selling next gen title of the month, LOL!
What's so funny? Were people expecting it to sell hundreds of thousands in its second month when it only sold about 500k(?) in its first month? The IP was never a big seller.
I think this low sales figure speaks more to how much of a disappointment(not failure) Titanfall was on Xbox One. Game was definitely overhyped. inFamous sold well for what it is.
 

N.Domixis

Banned
So Xbone didn't even break 200k mark WW? WTF, now I see why MS backtracked on Kinect.

I can bet that PS4 is outselling Xbone 2.5:1 or even higher LTD. Gap is widening as we speak.
Source? If true then ps4 would outsell xbox globally with just na numbers.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Wii U had a record launch too.

Just saying.

No, the Wii U didn't have a record launch... The GC sold much better than it at launch as well.


Also the Wii was 28K in a 5 week month in March.

If the Wii was flat month over month it'd be at 22.4K

Based on the Wii + 3DS >= 150K, I'd say if the Wii was flat month to month, the 3DS is likely at 127.6, which means it actually sold about the same week to week in April over March (159.5K would have been its April # if April was 5 weeks).
 

Road

Member
Haha it's amusing to me that practically no one takes my attempt at meaningful discussion seriously unless I post a number or two to go along with it.

Priorities people!

There's no discussion to be had on NPD day. Only knee jerk reaction. It's amusing you haven't realized this by now. =P

After people sleep over the information, they start to think bout what it means. Some of them at least.

Today is all about gifs and ultimatums and begging for numbers.

Wii U had a record launch too.

Just saying.

Wii U didn't have any record launch.

Maybe in your house it was the fastest system you ever bought.
 
Thing is, historically speaking hardware sales of 360/PS3 are already those of a dead platform. Xbone at 115k, PS4 around 200k, these are not impressive numbers relative to consoles of the past. Heck I bet Gamecube sales for it's first April were similar to these numbers.

Historically speaking both X1 and PS4 have sold more than past gens in a short time .
Now the question is how long before stream are cross and they need a price cut to keep sales going at a healthy rate .
Something MS has already done .
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
Agreed. Now with the new development of the Xbox One price cut in June, the sales trajectory of the console is up for question. It's too early to distinctly hammer down a trajectory in the USA because the console is still in its infancy and Microsoft is reacting to changes to find a healthy equilibrium.

No wonder that developers continue to cling to the old gen for hte time being.

Problem is IMO I don't see were they get sales vs the PS4. Sure it is the same price as the Ps4 but it is at signifcant disadvantage graphics wise. Also Sony's first parties are in much better position to get out exclusives. They solved 1 problem but created another if they would of dropped the price to 349.99 that could of been the difference maker.
 

LordOcidax

Member
Wii U fell off the cliff as soon as the holidays ended. PS4 didn't. XB1 is faring much better than Wii U too.

PS4 won't reach Wii U levels. XB1 probably won't either. Why? They have 3rd party support.
Just watch the next month. Is going to be fun.
 
I'm still more than satisfied with my vita, but its frustrating to see how slow Sony is to try anything, they just don't seem to care. Vita is a great hardware, 2 years is to soon to give up.

Sony gave up on the Vita a while ago.

They've projected that it'll sell at WiiU levels this year (3.5 million). And they're pushing stuff like remote play, lackluster ports and JRPG localization while completely ignoring the dumbass memory card prices. They're content with the little money they're getting from the tiny customer base outside of Japan, where it's just doing mediocre numbers instead of lying on it's deathbed like it is in the West.

And I say that as someone who loves their Vita too. Mainly because I feel much more committed to the platform than they are at this point.
 
I didn't realise you posted numbers JH... I just enjoy your insights. :) /brown nosing. But for serious, it's good to get different takes. I think the thread typically gets better for discussion after the initial numbers rush though.
 

N.Domixis

Banned
Why are people always surprised vita is dead? If you don't support your console it deserves to flop. Indies and hd ports aren't enough.
 
Wii U had a record launch too.

Just saying.

The Wii U had inferior hardware to the upcoming PS4 and XB1. Had the bulk of its casual Wii player base move on to Facebook games, tablets and phones. Had few upcoming games and little third party support. None of that applies to the XB1 and PS4.
 

iori9999

Banned
I honestly don't regret my Vita purchase.. It's still my favorite handheld atm, but I agree with those that states Sony dropped the ball in regards to its appeal in the west.. 90% of the games worth anything on the platform are mostly Eastern developed or Genre titles.. Most of them won't appeal to the majority of the player base in then west either..
 

fedexpeon

Banned
Awful numbers for every consoles.
But I guess the PS4 hype has to die soon with no big games coming out for that month.

Man...the WW # for the X1 must be really bad if Americans are not willing to buy the X1 as well.
 
That depends on how next gen consoles do this Fall. If numbers aren't that great or good that means the market has drastically changed, the ball game won't be as easy to play or predict the outcome of.

As of now these console manufacturers are depending on a few developers to entice people to make the jump, that is a scary situation no matter how you cut it.

Very true. I think Sony needs to push hard as hell at E3 and really hold nothing back. Even announce a Winter 2014 price drop if projections show any sort of drops from last winter during launch. No time for panicking with the PS4 but it really is an important holiday. You need to show developers there is the consumer market available that is capable of sustaining their business so they will have no fear of developing for your brand. If Sony hits say 12,000,000 by winter with another 3 million sold during the Holiday season that sets you into a very healthy 2015 with the potential for a massive 2015 E3 for exclusive content.

Destiny, DriveClub, the Order, Diablo 3, the Witness, The Last of Us, Evolve, Dragons Age 3, Planetside 2, Hotline Miami 2, the Witness, Rogue Legacy and many others are still scheduled to hit later this year so it is still a very healthy and potentially great software season for Ps4.

Sony really needs to get Japan on board too just to get that strong Japanese developer support that will come with actual steady sales over there. But again that won't come till Atleast 2015 either
 
I don't think the industry offers enough diversity in software to justify such massive gains every gen. And no I'm not talking about "casual" games. Where are the new genres and themes? Where are the simulators? Where are the quirky and adventurous mid-tier games. Lately I've been looking back at some of the older PC scene and it amazes me to see the sort of games that used to come out. Why don't we have more games where you can create a robot's A.I in a pseudo-mock up programming language? Or games where you can build cars like an actual engineer?

I don't really get this. The video game market can't keep growing unless... it makes more of the kinds of games that it made when its audience was about 1/20th the size it is now?
 
Wii U fell off the cliff as soon as the holidays ended. PS4 didn't. XB1 is faring much better than Wii U too.

PS4 won't reach Wii U levels. XB1 probably won't either. Why? They have 3rd party support.

Well sure, but the trend we're seeing so far (moreso with the Xbone than PS4) isn't pointing toward a decline; a contraction. Of course I think it's probably too early to tell, but I can see where people are coming from.

And honestly, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if the Xbone hit Wii U levels for May. PS4 won't, but one strong console with two weak (one extremely weak) doesn't paint a great picture. But personally I'm optimistic, and I think sales will pick up when the big titles start hitting. Sales for the Xbone will definitely increase once that pricedrop goes into effect.
 

nib95

Banned
Personally, I wouldn't call watching a video game company struggle fun. This is my hobby, I want it to thrive. I don't want Sony or Microsoft to suffer because then I suffer.
Not necessarily. If they do poorly, often the consumer just ends up getting better value proposition. Cheaper prices, more deals, sales, price drops, incentives etc.
 

Vylsith

Banned
Just got into the thread.

Crap numbers all around for hardware, lowest month yet for both the XBO and PS4 since their respective launches.

The concern spouted by other members about the PS4 performance is somewhat justified, 199k is hardly numbers to be happy with when you're meant to be leading the race and picking up the slack of the other lower selling ones.

When the huge drop in January happened (~270k), it could be excused due to the PS4 being supply constrained. The same numbers were seen in February further lending credence to the limited supply situation (~270k) and the rise in March (~370k) brought hope that things were picking up. But now?

April is always a slow month in hardware and software sales. This isn't surprising. At all.
 

MikahR

Banned
Not necessarily. If they do poorly, often the consumer just ends up getting better value proposition. Cheaper prices, more deals, sales, price drops, incentives etc.

Yeah, if they stay in the business.

If things get too bad, they could pull out. Look what happened to Sega. :(
 

nib95

Banned
I figure he's working off the assumption that 60% of xbone sales are in the US? If that's the case, and it sold 115k in the US, then it would mean it sold 190k~ worldwide.

But are there any grounds to the assumption? I'm not saying the percentage allocation is a bad assumption, but having actual facts or numbers to back it is ideal.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Haha it's amusing to me that practically no one takes my attempt at meaningful discussion seriously unless I post a number or two to go along with it.

Priorities people!

nvm

Not because I don't quote you don't mean I ain't listening ;)
 
Personally, I wouldn't call watching a video game company struggle fun. This is my hobby, I want it to thrive. I don't want Sony or Microsoft to suffer because then I suffer.

God don't be so serious, he was joking.

These threads are fun to read regardless.

Different topic but what title does the Bone have coming from now up until the Holiday period that could drive sales?

Is Sunset Overdrive really it? Seeing as how Watchdogs and then Destiny are so heavily associated with the PS4, the next few months could be really bad for MS, even with a price-cut.
 

John Harker

Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
There's no discussion to be had on NPD day. Only knee jerk reaction. It's amusing you haven't realized this by now. =P

After people sleep over the information, they start to think bout what it means. Some of them at least.

Today is all about gifs and ultimatums and begging for numbers.
t.

:(.
Yea it's probably my own fault I get more and more angry here all the time.

At least Wii u is up again yoy!
Chugging along, at least its growing.
 

allan-bh

Member
Based on the Wii + 3DS >= 150K, I'd say if the Wii was flat month to month, the 3DS is likely at 127.6, which means it actually sold about the same week to week in April over March (159.5K would have been its April # if April was 5 weeks).

But Xbox One is 2nd best seller. 3DS can't be above 115k.
 

MormaPope

Banned
Going through NPD threads of this year:

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February:
Call of Duty: Ghosts (Xbox 360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4, Wii U, PC)
The Lego Movie Videogame (Xbox 360, PS3, 3DS, Wii U, Xbox One, PS4, Vita)
NBA 2K14 (Xbox 360, PS4, PS3, Xbox One, PC)
Thief (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Grand Theft Auto V (Xbox 360, PS3)
Battlefield 4 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag (Xbox 360, PS4, PS3, Xbox One, Wii U, PC)
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII (PS3, Xbox 360)
Minecraft (Xbox 360)
Bravely Default (3DS)

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Now lets compare that to NPD charting for early 2007, when all next gen consoles were out:


Janurary:
Top 10 SKUs

1. 360 LOST PLANET: EXTREME CONDITION 329k
2. PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR 224k
3. 360 GEARS OF WAR 212k
4. WII WARIOWARE: SMOOTH MOVES 201k
5. WII LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS 189k
6. PS2 MADDEN NFL 07 156k
7. GCN LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS 144k
8. PS3 RESISTANCE: FALL OF MAN 144k
9. 360 TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW SIX: VEGAS 135k
10. NDS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS 125k

February:
360 CRACKDOWN 427K
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE 371K
NDS DIDDY KONG RACING 262K
WII LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS 130K
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR 130K
360 GEARS OF WAR 119K
360 MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL 2K7 113K
360 LOST PLANET: EXTREME CONDITION 111K
WII WARIOWARE: SMOOTH MOVES 109K
360 NBA STREET HOMECOURT 102k

March:
PS2 GOD OF WAR II 833K
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE 644K
360 LOST PLANET: EXTREME CONDITION 573K (includes collectors edition)
360 CRACKDOWN 540K
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR 497K
NDS DIDDY KONG RACING 475K
360 GEARS OF WAR 426K (includes collectors edition)
WII LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS 404K
360 TOM CLANCY'S GHOST RECON: ADVANCED WARFI 394K
WII WARIOWARE: SMOOTH MOVES 387K

April:
NDS POKEMON DIAMOND VERSION NINTENDO OF AMERICA APR 2007 EVERYONE (E) 1.045 M
NDS POKEMON PEARL VERSION NINTENDO OF AMERICA APR 2007 EVERYONE (E) 712K
WII SUPER PAPER MARIO NINTENDO OF AMERICA APR 2007 EVERYONE (E) 352K
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA FEB 2007 EVERYONE (E) 249K
360 GUITAR HERO 2 W/ GUITAR ACTIVISION MAR 2007 TEEN (T) 197K
PS2 GUITAR HERO 2 W/GUITAR ACTIVISION NOV 2006 TEEN (T) 142K
360 SPIDER-MAN 3 ACTIVISION APR 2007 TEEN (T) 117K
PS2 SPIDER-MAN 3 ACTIVISION APR 2007 TEEN (T) 105K
PS2 GOD OF WAR II SONY MAR 2007 MATURE (M) 101K
PS2 MLB '07: THE SHOW SONY FEB 2007 EVERYONE (E) 79K

The month that is the most similar to April 2014 is April 2007. In 2014 the top 7 were 360 games, last gen games. In April 2007, 4 last gen hardware games were in the top 10, but towards the bottom of the list.

What's happening now is new and not typical. Last gen consoles in 2007 were mostly dead, in 2014 last gen games account for most of the sales.
 

MikahR

Banned
God don't be so serious, he was joking.

These threads are fun to read regardless.

Different topic but what title does the Bone have coming from now up until the Holiday period that could drive sales?

Is Sunset Overdrive really it? Seeing as how Watchdogs and then Destiny are so heavily associated with the PS4, the next few months could be really bad for MS, even with a price-cut.

Hard to tell sometimes with this crowd...

We'll have to wait for E3 to see what else MS has in store besides the titles we've heard about already.
 
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