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[SilverLunar]

I am happy that Bravely Second got mentioned ;v;
I don't want this series to die.

 

[SpotAnime]

Too bad about Quantum Break. It really was a great experience but a flawed game nonetheless. Still, it deserved a better audience.

I agree with everyone claiming bomba - as heavily hyped as QB was with marketing and advertising, and not having any competition from other new AAA Xbox titles, and it couldn't even move 1% of the hardware base at retail. Wii U, despite having sold less hardware, fares better with their first party titles in terms of attach rate.

Which makes me ask the question, who is the Xbox audience? It's still selling relatively close to the PS4 in the US, but what are the buying for it? Halo wasn't the massive hit everyone was expecting (has it hit 5 million in sales yet?). Is it just the Minecraft/CoD/GTA/Madden box? Selling only to "casual" console players?

 

[Waldo Lydecker]

I know one thing: it is about time for a Resistance game. Maybe a prequel or reboot.

Make it happen Insomniac and I will happily buy it at a high price!

 

[JaggedSac]

Sam Lake Sound of Silence video anywhere?

 

[newjeruse]

I know one thing: it is about time for a Resistance game. Maybe a prequel or reboot.

Make it happen Insomniac and I will happily buy it at a high price!

I take the good Ratchet numbers as the sign of a concensus behind character platformers. Not random Insomniac IPs.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

200k>Quantum Break>100k

There are 2 games between QB et Star Fox 0, so I would guesstimate it at around 60k.

Damn, I hope Remedy isn't in trouble because of that. Don't think that QB's development was a cheap one.

 

[Bgamer90]

Which makes me ask the question, who is the Xbox audience? It's still selling relatively close to the PS4 in the US, but what are the buying for it? Halo wasn't the massive hit everyone was expecting (has it hit 5 million in sales yet?). Is it just the Minecraft/CoD/GTA/Madden box? Selling only to "casual" console players?

People are buying consoles for the third party titles and already well established exclusive franchises. You mentioned Halo and while it didn't do as well as many expected, the game was still the top selling 2015 exclusive in America.

New exclusive IPs haven't really done much for console sales this gen in America so I'm (sadly) not surprised by Quantum Break's very low impact on Xbox One sales.

 

[Bedameister]

Man we should make bets on when neither Minecraft nor GTA V will be in the NPDs

 

[Rymuth]

Sam Lake Sound of Silence video anywhere?

♪ Hello Darkness, my old friend ♪

 

[Boke1879]

Alright guys at work and can't skim the thread. Any ps4 numbers? Any other numbers of note?

 

[gundamkyoukai]

People are buying consoles for the third party titles and already well established exclusive franchises. You mentioned Halo and while it didn't do as well as many expected, the game was still the top selling 2015 exclusive in America.

New exclusive IPs haven't really done much for console sales this gen in America so I'm (sadly) not surprised by Quantum Break's very low impact on Xbox One sales.

Has it not always been that way for years now ?

 

[Get_craycray]

Alright guys at work and can't skim the thread. Any ps4 numbers? Any other numbers of note?

You know what, the mods can delete this post if they want.

Thanks to a good source

PS4 - 175k
XB1 - 168k
WIU - 32k
360 - 13k
PS3 - 4k

By the way

The average weekly average drop from March

Xbox One 167,600

MoM drop = 31%

YoY drop = 10%

Weekly average

Xbox One March: 241,500 / 5 = 48,300
Xbox One April: 167,600 / 4 = 41,900

Drop = 13%

PS4 174,800

MoM drop = 47%

YoY rise = 0%

Weekly average

PS4 March: 330,100 / 5 = 66,020
PS4 April: 174,800 / 4 = 43,700

Drop = 34%

Wii U 32,300 

MoM drop = 51%

YoY drop = 25%

Weekly average

Wii U March: 66,200 / 5 = 13,240
Wii U April: 32,300 / 4 = 8,075

Drop = 39%

Is actually the industry average. Average this month is ~29%, and since 2010, the average equals ~30%.

Sony, since 2010, averages drops ~35% this month, which is almost exactly how it acted this month.

Nintendo, since 2010, usually drops ~30%, but Wii U sales will drop significantly from this point on, so going against that this month makes sense.

Xbox, since 2010, usually drops ~25%, and the Xbox One had a $50 price cut this month, so while it barely did shit, it still affected the weekly average from the norm.

And 200k>Quantum Break>100k

 

[Boke1879]

Thanks. So the ps4 was flat YOY. I think we're entering the slow months and won't see any notable hardware spikes until August or September. Or if the price drops.

But damn at those Xbox numbers. Price drops and trade in deals and it still couldn't beat out PS4.

 

[Mister Megative]

Ugh, looking at those numbers, April truly is a pretty slow month for hardware. May should be looking better for the PS4, though, and I expect the XB1 to be down YoY again.

Yeah, but as Welfare pointed out......this has been the norm for April for six years. Not really a big deal IMO.

 

[slavesnyder]

Thanks. So the ps4 was flat YOY. I think we're entering the slow months and won't see any notable hardware spikes until August or September. Or if the price drops.

But damn at those Xbox numbers. Price drops and trade in deals and it still couldn't beat out PS4.

Let's see what Uncharted and No Man's Sky do for hardware.

And 200k>Quantum Break>100k

Best lineup in bargain bin history.

 

[Javin98]

Yeah, but as Welfare pointed out......this has been the norm for April for six years. Not really a big deal IMO.

Not saying it is a big deal at all. It's just that seeing the sales being so low is kinda depressing. Yes, it's the norm, but I guess it's kinda instinctive that low sales look depressing.

 

[Mister Megative]

Not saying it is a big deal at all. It's just that seeing the sales being so low is kinda depressing. Yes, it's the norm, but I guess it's kinda instinctive that low sales look depressing.

No need to be depressed. It's just April Hell, PS4 wasn't down at all.

 

[Icyflamez96]

So why is April a bad month for console sales?

 

[Javin98]

No need to be depressed. It's just April Hell, PS4 wasn't down at all.

Well, hopefully, for May, we will see a decent YoY boost for the PS4.

 

[Mister Megative]

So why is April a bad month for console sales?

Post-tax season, holiday/early year rush done, etc.

 

[JaggedSac]

♪ Hello Darkness, my old friend ♪

Lol

 

[Kysen]

I'm guessing MS saw how poorly QB was doing in their projections which is why they announced a PC version out of nowhere. They should really consider Steam, unless they want to sweep the losses under the rug like Fable legends. The Windows store isn't going to boost sales to any degree.

 

[Curufinwe]

creamsugar, where are you?

I can't drink NPD coffee like this. :|

 

[Conduit]

March was when it dropped to $299 right?

So basically we are at the point that to generate any meaningful increased demand for an XB1 it's at the initial phase of a marketed price drop

Thanks for that info btw

February was when Xbone dropped to 299$ ( Amazon then ). During March and the almost whole April it was 299$ nation wide and also 100$ trade-in deal at Gamestop. And also there was a trade-in deal for PS4 in April at Gamestop ( for 1 week IIRC ).

 

[PeskyToaster]

Kind of a slow month besides Dark Souls for me. I thought Quantum Break would do better but holy crap at GTA still being there.

 

[flkraven]

If those sales are correct then I'm shocked MS didn't jump at the PR. Technically they could have said that 'Microsoft was the best selling home console brand for the month of April' with the XB1/360 sales. But they didn't. Maybe that's why Sony said nothing. They saw that opportunity and were waiting to rebut it and now they are in a stale mate lol

 

[Bitch Pudding]

If those sales are correct then I'm shocked MS didn't jump at the PR. Technically they could have said that 'Microsoft was the best selling home console brand for the month of April' with the XB1/360 sales. But they didn't. Maybe that's why Sony said nothing. They saw that opportunity and were waiting to rebut it and now they are in a stale mate lol

Now that you say it, I can't believe they missed that opportunity! Most likely too focused on miles driven and shots fired to bother with actual sales...

 

[CosmicQueso]

Most people outside of gaming forums probably aren't even aware of the rumours. I've never believed in hardware rumours or announcements having an impact on live product sales. I see this a lot on GAF, but where is the evidence? Genuinely curious.

There isn't any direct evidence. It's confirmation bias. Looking at Hw data on a monthly basis across an entire market and saying that X or Y change is due wholly or in some specific part to one specific influence when there are a multitude of factors that impact sales is impossible to prove in all but the rarest of occasions.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

There isn't any direct evidence. It's confirmation bias. Looking at Hw data on a monthly basis across an entire market and saying that X or Y change is due wholly or in some specific part to one specific influence when there are a multitude of factors that impact sales is impossible to prove in all but the rarest of occasions.

For real. Not sure why it's an opinion that's gained so much traction.

 

[Ombala]

Damn, I hope Remedy isn't in trouble because of that. Don't think that QB's development was a cheap one.

I bet MS won't fund a game like this again for Remedy.

 

[Y2Kev]

I don't see why MS would ever greenlight a single player game. Their audience just is not OK with it.

 

[noshten]

So no SW numbers, guess we can do nothing more than predict

DS III - 450K
R&C - 260K
MLB - 220K
QB - 150K
SF0 - 100K

 

[Ombala]

I don't see why MS would ever greenlight a single player game. Their audience just is not OK with it.

Agree with this, but weren't there rumors about Alan Wake 2?
Bet there's a good way to turn that game into a service also.

 

[sturgboski]

Best lineup in bargain bin history.

Cold as ice.

Ok, lets get to the REAL important number:
How did the Vita do? It in the 5 digit range?

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

When did gamers start having good taste:

Dark Souls III (PS4, Xbox One)
Ratchet & Clank (PS4)

Great news and so deserved.

 

[robo]

Now that you say it, I can't believe they missed that opportunity! Most likely too focused on miles driven and shots fired to bother with actual sales...

They would go back on the "we only report MAU" reteric from Last year and would be crusified by everyone

Spoiler

(on GAF)

for only spouting sales when they are winning.

 

[Y2Kev]

Agree with this, but weren't there rumors about Alan Wake 2?
Bet there's a good way to turn that game into a service also.

I would never green light Alan wake 2.

 

[wonderful103]

I take the good Ratchet numbers as the sign of a concensus behind character platformers. Not random Insomniac IPs.

Ratchet isn't a platformer, it's a 3rd person action game (shooting being its primary focus). Those clearly do well on ps4, as next month will also prove

So why is April a bad month for console sales?

Everything outside the holidays being pretty shit is the norm now in this new contracted marketplace

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Agree with this, but weren't there rumors about Alan Wake 2?
Bet there's a good way to turn that game into a service also.

There is no way in hell they greenlight AW2 now.
Terrible news for Remedy. Will be interesting to see how this affects their partnership. Next game could be multiplatform ala The Order.

 

[tilomite!]

Grand Theft Auto is just crazy. I hope this doesn't mean GTA VI or RDR get pushed back to feed the beast.

 

[blakep267]

I don't see why MS would ever greenlight a single player game. Their audience just is not OK with it.

Well I guess you could say this was still a remnant of a past era( since QB has been around for a while)

And everything else that they've announced has a multiplayer/ co-op component( Scalebound, Crackdown, Gears, Halo, Forza, Sea of thieves)

I guess the only odd man out is Recore.

 

[Stanng243]

There is no way in hell they greenlight AW2 now.
Terrible news for Remedy. Will be interesting to see how this affects their partnership. Next game could be multiplatform ala The Order.

Who owns the IP for Alan Wake? Given that their type of market seems to be on the PS4, if they own the IP, could they make it for the PS4?

 

[e-gamer]

Low-ish QB sales were kind of expected after the underwhelming UK sales but man, for one of the more exciting XBO exclusives that's just a really disappointing debut in the US. :/

Maybe if they priced QB at 40 U$ they could keep better position on NPD...

I'm almost sure!

 

[LordRaptor]

Maybe MS could own up and do what they apparently actually want to do, and just have Remedy make them a pretty benchmarking demo for DX12 in the style of Futuremark.

 

[Ryng_tolu]

Official numbers are out.

Dark Souls 3 - 504,000
Quantum Break < 150,000 (including bundle)
Bravely Second < 100,000

Others sales from this month

MLB 16 the Show < 185,000
The Division - 175,000 (including bundle)
Call of Duty: Black Ops III - 262,000 (including bundle)

Call of Duty: Black Ops III bundle sold 157,000 unit this month, 90% of total PS4 sales.

 

[KawabataSan]

nevermind

 

[Bits N Pieces]

Damn, I hope Remedy isn't in trouble because of that. Don't think that QB's development was a cheap one.

Remedy were contracted by MS to make Quantum Break and paid accordingly, they are in no danger of anything untoward happening to them because of the performance of QB.

 

[JetSetRadio]

Remedy got burned.

 

[Radec]

Cream still around?

 

[sflufan]

Feels like MS's The Order really.

I thought that we had all agreed that Ryse was MS's version of The Order!

We need to find another analogy for Quantum Break!