Dragonborn
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1 million in 9 days was WW I think
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NPD Sales Results for February 2015 [Nintendo Numbers, Majora's, MH4, ~XB1]
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1 million in 9 days was WW I think
RespectThySole
Member
I don't think it did 1 million faster than Titanfall, but yeah Sony did say it reached that figure after 9 days(worldwide).
Chobel
Member
Halo brand is really big, so big that Halo MCC did more than 1 mil in 2014. I don't think The Witcher 3 will outsell MCC or even come close to its sales.
I had no idea about that, that's bigger than forum hype. So fair enough.
Did you forget in how many copies Witcher 2 sold on X360 3 years ago?
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Or the fact that the final entry in trilogy will be the first on PlayStation.
RespectThySole
Member
I didn't forget it, but The Witcher 3 is going to do far better than the TW2 did in sales(on console) and I've already stated why I think that is.
Guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm not sure if it will outsell MCC(depends on how big the hype train is come May), but I think it will be in the same ballpark at least.
StrongBlackVine
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I think it was way closer to niche than mainstream. It's no Skyrim when it comes accessibility.
I must admit that I've only been following games discussion actively for the past decade or so, but I don't think I have ever seen the kind of games media aided hyping that Titanfall received. "You will buy an Xbox One for Titanfall, and you should", anyone? During the period between E3 2013 and February 2014 it was practically a law that no news could be written without mentioning how awesome Titanfall was (pretty f--ing awesome!).
Compared to that, I remember reading that Destiny was clumsy and slow, devoid of content and depth, and generally boring. Destiny created its hype with the pre-release alpha and beta, and managed to convince gamers instead of media. And the bitter journalists who had failed at shoving Titanfall down everyone's throat were trying to downplay the enthusiasm among their audience.
So maybe there was an equal amount of enthusiasm, but qualitatively it was entirely different.
Birgitte2004
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The only reason? Really?
What?
StealthGoblin
Banned
Wow you have a short memory.
Every podcast, game show, website etc was banging on about it like it was the second coming. Some journos were even salty about how poorly some gamers recieved it.
You're smart, Kongming, but it appears that the southeastern wind did not blow this time
http://me.ign.com/en/titanfall-pc-1/103556/feature/why-you-should-give-titanfall-another-shot
This article is referring to that ludicrous Ryan article, which I'm sure someone's going to post soon.
Ok, not the only reason. But lets not kid ourselves here. Titanfall was not not the most hyped game of all time. Of the 8th generation, sure, probably.
That means the fire attack will fail!
AstuteClass
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So I've been checking the Amazon hourly best sellers throughout the day and I cannot believe the MCC bundle is #72. I would ask if it's because it's not out, but it's out tomorrow so people should be ordering it today, but it's just dead. Coupled with that video with the bundles full in that cabinet... is the MCC bundle going to be a disaster?!
If so, is it 343 that's done this to Halo or just Halo's popularity not being what it was?
If so, is it 343 that's done this to Halo or just Halo's popularity not being what it was?
StrongBlackVine
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It's a bunch of old games people have already played. The most hardcore Halo fans that care enough about that collection probably purchased or received a Xbox One over the holidays or even before then.
Nightengale
Member
MCC bundle isn't "not out yet", so that excuse doesn't even fly.
We should wait for March sales first but it is surprising the Halo XB1 bundle isn't tracking well. I thought it would do better.
Of course there really isn't any major software coming out on XB1 right now to push people to buy one. FF Type 0 will have the majority of sales on PS4 plus Bloodborne is out next week.
Of course there really isn't any major software coming out on XB1 right now to push people to buy one. FF Type 0 will have the majority of sales on PS4 plus Bloodborne is out next week.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Sorry, I've been on the road for a few weeks, so I haven't really been posting much at all.
Any particular debate worth weighing in on, or sharing? Not sure if you have all the info or anything. Also as you know I'm not super interested in XB1 vs PS4 future lifetime sales or any of that yet either.
Well, Bloodborne on hourly chart on US and UK Amazon :
http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bs_nav_0
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_h__1#1
http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=zg_bs_nav_0
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_h__1#1
XxRampage07xX
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So has there been any official number of The Order sales yet? Man I really want to know that game's performance after it is slain by critics.
Nightengale
Member
No, not yet other than more than 200k in US.
XxRampage07xX
Member
Seems like 1 million copies is still a very long way to go. Ugh I am worried about RaD's fate.
FF Seraphim
Member
WTF... Playstation products take up like 8 of the top 10 spots.
I wonder what this means for Bloodborne's numbers
They are focusing consoles first this time around so it better pay off for them.
Do enlighten me, please. I sure as hell can't think of a single game that media was drooling more over.
SanguineShark
Member
GTA4? It's part of the reason you had so many people let down, afterwards.
Why? Sony doesn't own Ready at Dawn, so unless they shut down because of bankruptcy, I don't think they are going anywhere.
Thunder Monkey
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Halo, Wii Sports, Wii Fit, MGS2, any number of GTA's.
Those are off the top of my head.
If you mean this gen then sure. But Wii Sports for the media at large, and MGS2 for the enthusiast media were definitely more hyped.
Off the top of my head. Grand Theft Auto 4.
I remember some enthusiasm and some weird reviews, but Titanfall-level hype? I wouldn't say so. Rockstar are experts at creating hype, I'll give you that, but they start ramping it up the closer the game's release comes. Titanfall hype lasted for eight months.
Don't know about Halo. May have been different in the US, but here in Finland I don't remember it being that huge a thing. Of course, I only paid attention to PC games at the time, and the PC version of first Halo didn't hold a candle to Half Life.
Wii Sports? I'd say the hype was more about the whole motion control thingie, and Wii Tennis was at the center of it. And it wasn't unfounded hype, it was genuine excitement.
Wii Fit? Yeah, Oprah and all that. But in games media?
MGS2? That I must say I know nothing about. I understand that MGS was a ground breaking game in its time, and everybody and their mother was waiting for the sequel.
The point I'm trying to make: Titanfall hype was manufactured and media driven. It didn't originate in the gamer community. And because of the media buy-in, it was totally on a level of its own. That's why I don't think anything compares.
I've heard of historical revisionism before, but this is just ridiculous. Are we just forgetting that IGN literally said "Believe the hype!" for their review of the game?
Thunder Monkey
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I was actually hesitant in my other post to write "If you mean this gen or manufactured hype with little payoff then sure." but I thought that would be rude to those that were legitimately hyped for it.
I feel like there's some revisionist history going on here with Destiny vs. Titanfall hype. Both games were extremely hyped, I'd say roughly to the same extent. Maybe I don't follow games media (at least not when dealing with AAA FPS games) enough, but I remember there was definitely a period of time where it felt like all discussion about "next-gen," was centered around those two games. Both were hyped as a sort of return to greatness for two former big FPS devs (Infinity Ward and Bungie). Constant reminders of Titanfall being Call of Duty meets Mirror's Edge meets MechAssault, and Destiny being Halo meets Borderlands.
Also, jryi, since you said you've only been in games discussion for a decade, I'd say a lot of original Xbox exclusives early in its life had "manufactured hype," for seemingly little reason, probably more than Destiny or Titanfall (they weren't hyped anywhere near as much as either game but more of their hype was "manufactured"). There was this game called Brute Force that was basically hyped as the next Halo because it was another shooter published by Microsoft.
Also, jryi, since you said you've only been in games discussion for a decade, I'd say a lot of original Xbox exclusives early in its life had "manufactured hype," for seemingly little reason, probably more than Destiny or Titanfall (they weren't hyped anywhere near as much as either game but more of their hype was "manufactured"). There was this game called Brute Force that was basically hyped as the next Halo because it was another shooter published by Microsoft.
I know people, who were legitimately hyped for Titanfall, but I still think that a majority of the hype was manufactured. Not naming any names (of unnamed Polygon reviews editors), but there were journos desperate to see Xbox One "win", and Titanfall seemed to be the heaviest ammunition in their arsenal.
And I'm not even saying that the hype wasn't deserved. It was just hugely overblown.
Coulomb_Barrier
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Wow, I know these are hourly but PS4 has had the top 10 on lockdown for a while now. I think Bloodborne is having a significant positive effect on the console.
Both TitanFall and Destiny got a big push marketing and PR wise. I'd say purely as individual games each got a ton of effort - the most so far this gen in fact I'd say.
The difference I believe is that in addition TitanFall received an additional layer of hype - driven really by MS but picked up on by a number of media as well - that is was going to "save/justify" Xbox One. It's that additional element and how it was linked to the Xbox One that I believe has some seeing the game as "the most hyped" this gen.
With hindsight while it made sense for MS I think that element of PR was unfortunate for the IP itself as it created associations that eventually turned out negative - i.e. TitanFall came and went with no noticeable big change in XB1's fortunes vs PS4. It was therefore judged as a failure by that metric even when its actual sales and reviews as a new IP were very strong I thought.
Anyway with the sequel going multi-platform I guess this will all be in the past soon enough - an interesting quirk of it's launch being so closely tied to XB1 fortunes, something it's sequel won't have hanging over it.
In some perverse way that is the most interesting thing about Titanfall going multiplatform: is Arthur Gies still going to think that it is the most next-gen thing around, or does he lose all interest now that you don't need an Xbox One to play the game.
Were you expecting a million worldwide or a million at North American retail? Because the former is definitely attainable, while the other seems like a pipedream.
In any case, I don't see how this would affect them much. They already got paid for it by the publisher, though they'll probably have the normal cycle of lay offs like every studio does after finishing a project. Folks will latch onto that, though, and any news about it will immediately spawn a 50 page thread because they recently made a Sony exclusive and we're all so bloody concerned.
TBH, I'm more interested in seeing how Respawn's going to handle the Grunt AI in the sequel, since they've stated the Cloud is what made the Grunts so smart. Are there going to be two version of the game now?
HORRORSHØW
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I'm sure Respawn can install a server somewhere.
I'm guessing most of the media will simply focus on how the game is and how it performs on more platforms (sales wise).
It will be interesting to see what (if any) response is made by those who most strongly positioned the IP with Xbox previously.
the Digital Foundry face off thread should be an interesting one I suspect. I wouldn't blame Respawn for aiming for parity for a number of reasons. If the sequel performs better on PS4 or has a resolution or similar advantage then it's gonna be a bloodbath thread (probably).
I don't think it's going to matter much to make something like that necessary. I mean look at COD -- game still sells better on Xbox One in North America. Would assume the same would be true for Titanfall 2 even if the PS4 version is better.
Xbox One version should at least be 900p -- especially if Respawn was thinking of a 900p update for Titanfall (1) alongside the new SDK (kinect).
It won't matter for sales, but GAF (and likely the internet as a whole) will have a shitstorm if there is a 900p/1080p type disparity...
I wouldn't understand it to be honest. I mean, I would say that's expected (900p on XB1; 1080p on PS4).
Now if the XB1 version stayed 792p like its predecessor? Yeah, that would be worthy of the internet going crazy.
Because CONSOLE -WARZ!
Why would it be any worse than normal? A game having a 900-1080 split in favor of PS4 isn't really SHOCKING NEWS.
Haha, true.
I also wonder if we'll see cross play (Xbox One and Windows 10). That would be sweet and help the player base for PC gamers.
With any other game you'd probably be right.
But this is Titanfall, what was supposed to be MS' golden child savior last year.
Sony fanboys are probably already frothing at the mouth at the chance to rub it in MS fans' faces if the PS4 version has a high resolution...