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[gofreak]

I think some people have an inflated sense of what FH2/Sunset Overdrive/H:MCC mean.

In terms of software, last I checked, PS4 has a wider library available, a wider pipeline of content coming, and typically (relative to XB1) the best versions of multiplatform games. And while Sony may not be firing on all cylinders in terms of its first party output this year, there's plenty coming.

Software does sell hardware, and is selling PS4s. There are other big factors too, chief among them the network effects of being the most popular console, but I think some people have a very narrow idea of how software factors into a system's desirability if they're just pitching relatively mediocre first party lineups against each other (and yes, I don't think XB1's first party lineup this year is particularly strong either).

 

[sam777]

A drop to match the PS4 price without Kinect and some game bundles that Sony usually matches. Microsoft haven't gone far enough yet.

PS4 - $399, Xbox One - $299
PS4 - €399, Xbox One - €299
PS4 - £349, Xbox One - £249

Now your talking and I don't think Sony would follow so Xbox claws back some mindshare before it's hard to come back from after Christmas.

In the UK the Xbox is doing fine although behind PS4 but nothing major, it is the rest of europe and NA that I think are the main concern.

 

[Majmun]

Oh my, if Sony wins November as well. Let me already create a suicide watch list.

But I'm expecting november to be very close.

 

[BrunoM]

Just check the global leaderboards. Should give a pretty accurate idea of how much it's sold.

Guess yeah and no right ..
I mean it's not one Xbox one user so there for its not one game one sale or easier way
One user in the leader board mean one sold game

But guess it's a good place to get a good idea

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Looking at that pie chart:

PS4 > XB1+ 360 + PS3 + WiiU + Wii

?

 

[Usobuko]

I support the email tag movement.

 

[Paganmoon]

Geez, if this becomes a trend, threads are going to be a mindfuck to read hehe. Mind aswell add a BB code that is like [membersonly] or something, having to quote every other post doesn't really work too well in the long run.

 

[Aquamarine]

By the way, do we have a rough estimate or ballpark figure for Xbone sales numbers this month?

WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

 

[GamerJM]

OH MY GOD WHY IS THIS STILL EVEN HAPPENING

Spoiler

what is this

 

[Basileus777]

Geez, if this becomes a trend, threads are going to be a mindfuck to read hehe. Mind aswell add a BB code that is like [membersonly] or something, having to quote every other post doesn't really work too well in the long run.

Hopefully someone sane will stop this before it spreads outside of NPD threads.

 

[Majmun]

Looking at that pie chart:

PS4 > XB1+ 360 + PS3 + WiiU + Wii

?

It is utter domination. I wonder how long this thirst will hold.

 

[GlamFM]

I think some people have an inflated sense of what FH2/Sunset Overdrive/H:MCC mean.

In terms of software, last I checked, PS4 has a wider library available, a wider pipeline of content coming, and typically (relative to XB1) the best versions of multiplatform games. And while Sony may not be firing on all cylinders in terms of its first party output this year, there's plenty coming.

Software does sell hardware, and is selling PS4s. There are other big factors too, chief among them the network effects of being the most popular console, but I think some people have a very narrow idea of how software factors into a system's desirability if they're just pitching relatively mediocre first party lineups against each other (and yes, I don't think XB1's first party lineup this year is particularly strong either).

The general impact of exclusives is being overestimated I think.
Having the best version of multiplats is what sells your machine.

It´s what helped the 360 last gen and it is what pushes the PS4 this gen.

And it wont go away...

Halo might be an exception though.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

why not just make NPD thread viewable to Neogaf members only.....thats possible right?

 

[Impeccable]

Microsoft's only hopes lie in Masterchief.

If the collection doesn't help I think it might be too late.

Sunset Overdrive is going to do "okay" but not sell systems. Which sucks, because I genuinely do enjoy Insomniac.

 

[RexNovis]

This thread is like a smoking, crater ridden battlefield littered with dead bodies and flaming wreckage alike.

Poor ol' Crazedprofessional simply rocks back and forth gently whispering "Master Chief Collection" to himself over and over and over again.

A grim scene to be sure.






By the way, do we have a rough estimate or ballpark figure for Xbone sales numbers this month?

HAH! WATCH YOURSELF!

 

[Markitron]

Oh my, if Sony wins November as well. Let me already create a suicide watch list.

But I'm expecting november to be very close.

I don't think it's gonna be as close as everyone thinks. The PS4's has built up a lot of momentum, I actually think CoD may sell more on PS4. I also don't think SO will sell many units either.

 

[Jinto]

why not just make NPD thread viewable to Neogaf members only.....thats possible right?

Ya, if that's possible, I concur with this. Enough people have trouble reading the OP before posting as is.

OMG Destiny XBO>PS!!

 

[KooopaKid]

Not too bad for Nintendo no?

 

[Busty]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

HAH! WATCH YOURSELF!

Spoiler

Much appreciated gents.

 

[CrazedProfessional]

I don't believe I should be banned, I think that's a bit far. People in this thread have partially agreed with me so my opinions aren't that out of place.

 

[SmokyDave]

In the UK the Xbox is doing fine although behind PS4 but nothing major, it is the rest of europe and NA that I think are the main concern.

I suspect the PS4 will pull further away from the XBone next year over here (in England), once the early adopters dry up. The PS4 seems to have all the mindshare amongst young adults.

The GTA IV bundle is going to do some damage later this year too. I can see that one surprising people.

I don't believe I should be banned, I think that's a bit far. People in this thread have partially agreed with me so my opinions aren't that out of place.

No fucking way should you be banned, you're too good at the whole Poe's Law thing.

 

[GlamFM]

Not too bad for Nintendo no?

Actually not too bad for anybody I think.

 

[Aquamarine]

Ya, if that's possible, I concur with this. Enough people have trouble reading the OP before posting as is.

OMG Destiny XBO>PS!!

YEAH

Hopefully someone sane will stop this before it spreads outside of NPD threads.

OKAY, SO

 

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Edit: Nevermind

And sadness for the loss of cream and sugar goodness.

 

[Markitron]

I don't believe I should be banned, I think that's a bit far. People in this thread have partially agreed with me so my opinions aren't that out of place.

Yes they are, you need to throw away your opinions and get new ones.

 

[RexNovis]

Ya, if that's possible, I concur with this. Enough people have trouble reading the OP before posting as is.

OMG Destiny XBO>PS!!

I KNOW RIGHT?!?

 

[ZSaberLink]

DEAF PEOPLE EVERYWHERE! MUST YELL HAHAHA!

 

[Majmun]

I suspect the PS4 will pull further away from the XBone next year over here (in England), once the early adopters dry up. The PS4 seems to have all the mindshare amongst young adults.

The GTAV bundle is going to do really well in the UK and pull the Ps4 further ahead.

Mainlan Europe is already PS4-territory. But with the bundle the domination will become even more severe.

I personally never expected NA to embrace Sony so fast again.

 

[Bold One]

PS4 numbers are really underwhelming for a market leader.

The Age of Sony is over

 

[Acosta]

Spoiler

Much appreciated gents.

That looks really bad, please tell me that boy is ok

 

[Mengy]

Microsoft's only hopes lie in Masterchief.

If the collection doesn't help I think it might be too late.

Oh it will certainly help, but contrary to what CrazedProfessional believes it will not be enough "content" to put them over Sony. I honestly doubt they will even have one month this holiday where Xbone sells more consoles than the PS4. At best they might come "close".

The PS4 is just much more powerful, and thus multiplats will almost ALWAYS be better on PS4 than X1 (Ubisofts self enforced parity notwithstanding). That's just the reality, and most educated gamers know this already, thus they are buying the PS4 for this generation over the X1. And then their friends are buying the PS4 over the X1. Microsoft has been working hard to even keep the race a relatively close one, and they've done a good job after the horrendous lead up to launch, but the race is already over. Now it's just a question of how large the time difference will be after the finish line.

 

[GlamFM]

Yes they are, you need to throw away your opinions and get new ones.

I don´t believe that´s up to you or us to decide.

 

[Usobuko]

Ar nosurge: Ode to an Unborn Star
Cooking Mama 5: Bon Appetit!
Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair
Natural Doctrine
Ranko Tsukigime's Longest Day
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax
Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate

I'll imagine sub 10k for all these obscure JPN games?

I think Dangan is one of those with higher sales potential on this list and it's only 12k.

RIP, better luck in Asia.

 

[Busty]

I don't believe I should be banned, I think that's a bit far. People in this thread have partially agreed with me so my opinions aren't that out of place.

There are people who believe that

Spoiler

9/11

was an inside job and that the

Spoiler

moon landing

were faked.

People are fucking idiots.





((Spoilered to hopefully keep us 'on track'.))

That looks really bad, please tell me that boy is ok

Eeeep, that never occurred to me.

I just assumed that the fact this was on the Internet meant that he was okay.

Yikes.

 

[Radec]

Not too bad for Nintendo no?

yeah..

 

[Basileus777]

YEAH







OKAY, SO

It's hijacked the whole thread and turned it into unreadable garbage. It'd be fine if it was just you posting new information, but that's not exactly what's happened.

 

[gofreak]

The general impact of exclusives is being overestimated I think.
Having the best version of multiplats is what sells your machine.

It´s what helped the 360 last gen and it is what pushes the PS4 this gen.

And it wont go away...

Halo might be an exception though.

Yeah, I expect MCC will do well, but in terms of 'first party software crowing rights', I don't think either machine is setting the world alight this year. Neither has a crown-jewel to wave around in the vein of a new Halo or new Naughty Dog or whatever. Both are missing what PS3 and 360 had in their second years (Uncharted & Gears respectively). Insomniac games - with all the love in the world - have never been at that level. PS3 years where Insomniac led the holiday lineup were always considered 'quiet years'.

It's a big stretch to start hand-wringing over why XB1's software isn't pushing it over PS4.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

The GTA IV bundle is going to do some damage later this year too. I can see that one surprising people.

I've had a few... and smoked a little so the idea of Sony making a GTAIV PS4 bundle was way way funnier than it should have been.

 

[ZSaberLink]

It's hijacked the whole thread and turned it into unreadable garbage. It'd be fine if it was just you posting new information, but that's not exactly what's happened.

I can see that though. Maybe normal text plus...


!

 

[Aquamarine]

It's hijacked the whole thread and turned it into unreadable garbage. It'd be fine if it was just you posting new information, but that's not exactly what's happened.

WELL

 

[Paganmoon]

YEAH







OKAY, SO

Yeah, but it's not just for leaks right now though, tons of posts in the past few pages, with just discussion (about this topic and others) have been in quotes, doesn't work in the long run. As I said earlier, mind as well add a BB code that works like the spoilers tag, but only shows for members. Really breaks the flow of discussions and the flow of reading a thread like it is right now.

Mind you, I'm totally ok with it, if it just pertains to posting the leaks, but not actual discussions.

 

[sam777]

I suspect the PS4 will pull further away from the XBone next year over here (in England), once the early adopters dry up. The PS4 seems to have all the mindshare amongst young adults.

The GTA V bundle is going to do some damage later this year too. I can see that one surprising people.

Fixed. Not sure personally as the Xbox One has dropped below PS4 in price now so I don't see PS4 pulling away massively but who knows.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Yeah but it... like disrupts a flow or something Aqua!

 

[Opus Angelorum]

This is thread contains everything and love and hate about NeoGAF.

 

[Markitron]

I don´t believe that´s up to you or us to decide.

I think in this case we can make an exception

 

[El-Pistolero]

Oh it will certainly help, but contrary to what CrazedProfessional believes it will not be enough "content" to put them over Sony. I honestly doubt they will even have one month this holiday where Xbone sells more consoles than the PS4. At best they might come "close".

The PS4 is just much more powerful, and thus multiplats will almost ALWAYS be better on PS4 than X1 (Ubisofts self enforced parity notwithstanding). That's just the reality, and most educated gamers know this already, thus they are buying the PS4 for this generation over the X1. And then their friends are buying the PS4 over the X1. Microsoft has been working hard to even keep the race a relatively close one, and they've done a good job after the horrendous lead up to launch, but the race is already over. Now it's just a question of how large the time difference will be after the finish line.

The PS4 is going to run circles around the Xbox One worldwide. But if we are to limit ourselves to the US market, I still think MS has a chance this coming November. They have all the right cards...so if they do not end up on top for the last two months of the year, they are gonna brace themselves and take a hell of a beating for the next 12 months or so (basically untill Halo 5 launches). November will be a critical month for sure...
Regardless, MS is doing quite good actually (again, limiting myself to the US market here) and the Xbox One is a very viable plateform and will only get stronger...

 

[Raist]

As ridiculous as this might appear at first glance, there is a small element of truth and it shouldn't be dismissed because of the rest of the post.

What is really selling the PS4 over the X1? It's certainly not the exclusive software. It can't be games like Destiny, which are also available on the competing platform.

So it stands to reason that people are buying into the idea of the PS4 more than anything else. It's the platform of choice.

What the fuck is "the idea of the PS4" though? Is it a paraphrased "it's just hype or just because it's Sony" kind of dismissal?

If it means "what the console is" then the whole "idea" argument thing is silly. It's cheaper (well, was), it's public knowledge that it's more powerful, and Sony didn't run head first into unlike MS into a well-deserved backlash and PR disaster. On top of that the online paywall thing was and still probably is a lot more appealing for he PS4 given the compensating benefits.

And metacritic is fun and all, but maybe the PS4 exclusives library so far had a broader appeal than the XB1's offering. i have no idea how you can arbitrarily exckude that straight away without any basis for it.

 

[Dr_LucienSanchez]

I don't believe I should be banned, I think that's a bit far. People in this thread have partially agreed with me so my opinions aren't that out of place.

I, for one, hope that you never get banned. Your posts are delightful and a treasure to read.

I want to help Crazedprofessional and others in the interest of having a more competitive console war than what it is currently. Xbox One fans should concentrate on how Sony is losing money with no end in sight and might not make it to the end of the generation. Use that to color everything Sony does. Ask questions on their ability to make big AAA budget games going forward with this squeeze on their finances. Talk about impending doom and compare them to Sega. You guys on the front lines have to fight harder.

Another tip, keep our worries to yourself, nobody cares and it will be used against you. Stay strong, pull yourself up by your bootstraps. There's always an angle to push and you are never out of it. Trust me it's ok to be the underdog.

Don't forget, use Soony instead of Sony.

 

[BlackClouds]

This thread is like a smoking, crater ridden battlefield littered with dead bodies and flaming wreckage alike.

Poor ol' Crazedprofessional simply rocks back and forth gently whispering "Master Chief Collection" to himself over and over and over again.

A grim scene to be sure.

I want to help Crazedprofessional and others in the interest of having a more competitive console war than what it is currently. Xbox One fans should concentrate on how Sony is losing money with no end in sight and might not make it to the end of the generation. Use that to color everything Sony does. Ask questions on their ability to make big AAA budget games going forward with this squeeze on their finances. Talk about impending doom and compare them to Sega. You guys on the front lines have to fight harder.

Another tip, keep our worries to yourself, nobody cares and it will be used against you. Stay strong, pull yourself up by your bootstraps. There's always an angle to push and you are never out of it. Trust me it's ok to be the underdog.

 

[Welfare]

Quote tags? QUOTE TAGS?! HAHAHAHAHA

HEY GUYS! DESTINY. AIN'T THAT SOMETHING?

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