WonkyPanda
Member
Sweet baby jesus. Some of the clocks you guys are getting is freaking ridiculous. Don't think I can wait till Pascal. Looks like my 760 is going to be retired soon.
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Nvidia announces the GTX 980 Ti | $650 £550 605
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Wag
Member
It doesn't matter much because 1400 is pretty good for an SLI setup.
First video is just PR and that production doesn't necessarily affect component quality.
kitguru is just a brief overview, don't doubt they're using good parts I want a thorough review comparing the PCB to other custom boards.
Sir Abacus
Member
ACX SC is the same silicon lottery as reference. You just get lower temps from a (theoretically) better cooling system.
Some cards have binned GPUs. The G1 was the first card to have them. Classifieds have them. Strix have them.
MSI too ?
so binned GPUs are pretty much the "higher" models per say? classified, MSI gaming, G1 and so on, everything else is reference with a prettier cooler? i see, thanks
ndawgdrake
Member
Picked up at EVGA 970 FTW and tempted to initiate the step up program for a 980Ti. Any idea when the classified's are coming out?
Big Maxwell is overclocking well. I have a EVGA 980ti that OC'd to 1350 right off the bat.
Sir Abacus
Member
I don't know for sure. Previous model Lightnings I'm pretty sure are binned but I don't want to lead anyone astray.
I agree with you. Was just pointing out what Asus have been saying, but definitely not saying I believe this PR hype until reviews hit.
There are some images around though of the Strix's PCB:
Compare that to the reference 980ti:
I flashed anew BIOS to my Zotac Amp last night with expanded power limits up form 275w to about 350w.
It allowed me to get to about 1460 instead of 1420, but I'd also not upped the maximum voltages allowed so it didn't go past 1.224v.
At 100% fan it was also bouncing off 70-72c.
Will be playing a little more in the coming weeks, but I'm not expecting any more really.
Happy with 1400 though tbh as I only game at 2560x1600.
This card will get to its 1420 on stock volts by the way and on auto fan. Without the BIOS flash I wasn't able to get past 1420 at all.
It allowed me to get to about 1460 instead of 1420, but I'd also not upped the maximum voltages allowed so it didn't go past 1.224v.
At 100% fan it was also bouncing off 70-72c.
Will be playing a little more in the coming weeks, but I'm not expecting any more really.
Happy with 1400 though tbh as I only game at 2560x1600.
This card will get to its 1420 on stock volts by the way and on auto fan. Without the BIOS flash I wasn't able to get past 1420 at all.
the 1420 is on boost im assuming?
jim2point0
Banned
I'm eagerly awaiting some Classified reviews. Come on, Guru3d.....
I'll have mine Tuesday. Early word is OC >1500Ghz consistently (IE no down clock below 1500).
This is the Kingping edition right?
Standard Classified. KPE isn't coming for another couple weeks. Also, it is pretty pointless without a waterblock or LN2.
I also have a Hybrid coming in.
RukusProvider
Banned
Did you get yours from amazon? my still doesn't have a shippping date.
Yeah. I placed my order on the 26th, in the AM. I also have been bitching at Amazon for over a month re my Hybrid order. I think they just got fed up with me...
Indeed.
CreepingFear
Member
Guys, my F5 key is going to break waiting for the Classified to be available to put inside a cart.
jim2point0
Banned
They sold out within 45 minutes after showing up on Newegg O_O
I have my new PSU in so now it's just a matter of deciding to buy another EVGA SC+, or try out a different brand before going SLI with it.
Do the Classifieds usually have a drastically higher power requirement?
RukusProvider
Banned
auto notify and then watch your email....
Watch the EVGA forums. An auto notify from one of their threads is usually faster than autonotify from Newegg or any other reseller. Nowinstock.com is pretty good as well. People have been complaining that emails arrive too late for these items. Seriously, you have about a 5 minute window from when the item is in stock... sometimes worse (14 seconds).
jim2point0
Banned
Yeah that's not going to work. The next time they come in stock, the amount will be WAAAAAAY less than the people on the notify list. So not everyone on the list will get an email. And if you're clicking that button now, you'll be placed at the bottom of the list. That's how this works.
Really kinda useless for high demand \ low stock products.
CreepingFear
Member
I have auto notify for EVGA, Newegg, and Amazon as well as the notify feature on nowinstock.net. It hurt to wait a month for the card to become available, I don't know what I'll do if I have to wait a month to grab and order it.
Wag
Member
ASIC doesn't mean much in the big scheme of things. You can have a shitty ASIC and have a good overclocking card and conversely have a really high ASIC and the card will overclock quite poorly.
One of my cards is 70.6% and hits 200Mhz boost core and that's about it regardless of the voltage.
RukusProvider
Banned
15222 a decent score in firestrike?
980ti
2600k @ 4.6
16gb 1600mhz ram
Graphics Score 19557
Physics Score 11543
Combined Score 6970
980ti
2600k @ 4.6
16gb 1600mhz ram
Graphics Score 19557
Physics Score 11543
Combined Score 6970
jim2point0
Banned
The graphics score could be higher. I'm guessing mine is overclocked more, but it looks about right. Here's mine:
Score: 16344
Graphics Score 20933
Physics Score 12065
Combined Score 7738
EVGA SC+ (~1480 mhz core)
i7 3770k @ 4.4 GHz
did you have the full program or the demo on steam? ive never use it before so im curious
I'm guessing you haven't done any overclocking?
I'm getting this with my 970 and i7 4770K. Your GPU score is 33% better than mine, but I do run my card at 1556MHz (boost).
Graphics Score 14002
Physics Score 12251
Combined Score 5128
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5035825
jim2point0
Banned
I have the full program.
Sir Abacus
Member
I agree with you. Was just pointing out what Asus have been saying, but definitely not saying I believe this PR hype until reviews hit.
There are some images around though of the Strix's PCB:
It's funny because this is supposed to be an LN2 card for overclockers but this still won't stop people from buying it.
RukusProvider
Banned
My card is a dud. Crashes at stock speeds and is going back.
Hopefully my classified ships one of these days.
Check out the OCUK Firestrike, Extreme and Ultra threads if you want to see some reference points.
Also the Heaven 4 thread.
The only one I've run and actually paid much attention to since overclocking at all was FireStrike Ultra, managed 4500 which considering I'm only on a 2500k I was pleased with.
Gemüsepizza
Member
I'm so confused with overclocking. Haven't found a good and 100% stable overclock yet. What I don't quite understand is what's the point of adding voltage?
Here is an example:
I have 1454 MHz core clock (boost) at 1,174 V. If I add voltage, nothing happens. I still have 1454 MHz core clock at 1,174 V. If I add more voltage, it suddenly jumps to 1,193 V. But then the frequency also jumps to 1467 MHz! How can I stabilize my settings when they change with additional voltage? Why can't I have 1454 MHz and 1,193 V?
Here is an example:
I have 1454 MHz core clock (boost) at 1,174 V. If I add voltage, nothing happens. I still have 1454 MHz core clock at 1,174 V. If I add more voltage, it suddenly jumps to 1,193 V. But then the frequency also jumps to 1467 MHz! How can I stabilize my settings when they change with additional voltage? Why can't I have 1454 MHz and 1,193 V?
Because of how the boost stuff works. It wants a certain voltage for a certain frequency and it will adjust on it's own, probably due to the tables in the bios.
Just see how far you can get it with no extra voltage and then do the same with +87.
I can't add any more to the core, but it does actually boost about 10 higher of it's own accord.
With a custom BIOS you can push that further still, to a point.
Just see how far you can get it with no extra voltage and then do the same with +87.
I can't add any more to the core, but it does actually boost about 10 higher of it's own accord.
With a custom BIOS you can push that further still, to a point.
jim2point0
Banned
Just did a test.
Ran firestrike at my normal, stable overclock with no added voltage. Highest clock = 1484 MHz.
Then I increased the voltage to +87mV and didn't touch anything else. Highest clock = 1522MHz, but it seemed like the average clock was lower and I even got a lower graphics score in firestrike. Highest recorded temp was the same (67 degrees).
In both cases, I'm hitting the power limit 95% of the time. I rarely ever hit the voltage limit.
Ran firestrike at my normal, stable overclock with no added voltage. Highest clock = 1484 MHz.
Then I increased the voltage to +87mV and didn't touch anything else. Highest clock = 1522MHz, but it seemed like the average clock was lower and I even got a lower graphics score in firestrike. Highest recorded temp was the same (67 degrees).
In both cases, I'm hitting the power limit 95% of the time. I rarely ever hit the voltage limit.
jim2point0
Banned
Felix Lighter
Member
I checked the ASIC values on my G1 Gaming cards. One is 73.6 and the other is 83.6.
Smushroomed
Banned
what benchmark do you guys run to consider a "stable" run?
I'm going to keep going +10 on my core speed on my 980ti g1's until they crap out? What does crapping out entail?
Afterwards what do I increase?
I'm going to keep going +10 on my core speed on my 980ti g1's until they crap out? What does crapping out entail?
Afterwards what do I increase?
Felix Lighter
Member
I typically use the Heaven benchmark. I'll run it for 30-45 minutes. Driver crashes, artifacts, application crashes, or BSODs indicate instability. I personally just look to get max overclock on stock voltage myself. Most people increase their power limit to something like +10% but the G1 gaming power limit is already increased over stock. If you want to push it a bit further you can increase voltage. Even after running some stress tests you could still have an unstable overclock. Nothing tests it better than long gaming sessions with demanding games like the Witcher 3.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Unfortunately this is the case. You might have an overclock you think is "stable" after hours of looping Heaven, 3DMark, Furmark, and anything else you care to test. And then you play a game and it crashes after 30 minutes and you have to lower your overclock until the game is stable. I'm all for these looping stress tests but ultimately it's not "stable" until it's Game Stable.
Damn, don't really read too many overclocking forums but that's a pretty damn high asic, congrats.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
Kinda sad that we're actually looking forward to 50% increases.
That sort of increment used to be incredibly underwhelming.
Coma Ecliptic
Member
That's a pretty serious price premium for the Asus 980 Ti Strix edition 
I've been patiently waiting on this damn card and that sucks if that's the final price.
$739
I've been patiently waiting on this damn card and that sucks if that's the final price.