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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That's a "good" problem to have. You're always going to be bound by something, and users don't have unlimited money.
We are almost there, Tim.
TheContact
Member
Sorry for late response. the ryzen 4k uses AM4. a 3700x is good enough, combine that with a 3080 and you'll have no bottlenecks for the foreseeable future. 100% go with the x570 because it uses a newer chipset. don't get the b550.
TheContact
Member
Nvidia stock gains after Bank of America boosts target to Street-high $650
Shares of Nvidia Corp. undefined are up more than 3% in Wednesday morning trading after Bank of America analyst Vivek Arya upped his price objective on the...
www.marketwatch.com
figured this would happen. the showing the other day was really good
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nemiroff
Gold Member
Wat a weird take.. Most people like me expected ~30-40% for ~1300 USD, we got up to 100% for 700.. Yet this monotone guy think ~1.7-2.0x RTX performance is disapponting "because".
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CrustyBritches
Gold Member
The biggest difference now is easy access to info on the web. PCPartPicker is a handy resource that will you compare prices from different storefronts, and more importantly will compatibility check your parts against each other. People make little builds and post them, so you can browse those if you'd like.
Dealing with drivers isn't so much of a bitch these days. There's so much variety and choice with hardware, and it's right at your fingertips with Newegg and Amazon.
Some advice/pointers:
1. Don't cheap out on your PSU(power supply). It's arguably the most critical component for long-term stability. Good review site for PSUs...JonnyGURU.
2. Do most of your build outside the case. CPU+HSF, memory, Nvme, lots of cabling.
3. Spend a little time planning out your cable management beforehand. Check builds using your case online and see how they handled it.
Good luck!
I'm fine with the perf/price of both 3070/3080, but the VRAM amount has me a bit worried. After thinking about it I came to the same conclusion that you did here. I'd rather just bite the bullet with the 8/10GB and upgrade in a couple years. Cyberpunk is my most anticipated game by far, and that release Nov. 19. I don't want to risk waiting too long and dealing with shortages, and in worst case scenario feeling pressured to get something I didn't really want.
BluRayHiDef
Banned
Here you go, matey.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti spotted with 16GB GDDR6 memory - VideoCardz.com
Lenovo has confirmed that their Legion T7 gaming desktop system will ship with GeForce RTX 3080 and GeForce RTX 3070 graphics cards. Lenovo launches Legion T7 with GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 16GB Interestingly, Lenovo also confirmed that their Legion T7 system will feature the GeForce RTX 3070 Ti...
videocardz.com
Desaccorde
Member
So anyone getting 3090 and why? I am incredibly torn between 3090 and 3080 @ 1440p/144hz. One of my side says that I want to crank everything to Ultra for couple of years for AAA games, but the other remembers the price/performance difference between 3080 and 3090.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
My pc monitor is 1440p 60hz (I know) and my Tv is 1080p 60(I also know) 10gb of very fast ram should be just fine for my use case and many others I would bet.
TaySan
Banned
3090 for sure. I owned and love my Titan xp and had great mileage out of that card i have a feeling the 3090 is going to be the same value for me. Money is not an issue for me and the 10 gb on the 3080 feels like it's going to be an issue for longevity.
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BluRayHiDef
Banned
I intend to get a 3090, because I have my computer connected to a 4K display and want to crank up the settings of any game that I play to the max. Also, I want a card that's as future proof as possible.
Ya im in between. I also game at 1440p and 165 hz. I also want to set to ultra and forget for a long time and I'm not sure I can with the 3080 lower vram.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Can you paypal me 700$ for the 3080 then? /s Sounds awesome man. Wish I could get the 3090. I'm sure the 3080 will suit me just fine.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
2x VRAM models would be fantastic. 3070 16GB would be perfect for me. 3070 isn't coming until October, so hopefully more info will continue to leak and this won't be limited to just OEMs.Here you go, matey.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti spotted with 16GB GDDR6 memory - VideoCardz.com
Lenovo has confirmed that their Legion T7 gaming desktop system will ship with GeForce RTX 3080 and GeForce RTX 3070 graphics cards. Lenovo launches Legion T7 with GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 16GB Interestingly, Lenovo also confirmed that their Legion T7 system will feature the GeForce RTX 3070 Ti...
I'm definitely upgrading before Cyberpunk, so probably would want to order it by Oct. 25th and have it by Halloween(Oct 31st). This is my cutoff for waiting on 3070 16GB and RDNA 2. A 3070 16GB is auto-buy for me. Don't know what that will cost. Probably $75-100 on top of 3070 MSRP, so maybe $599.
Rbk_3
Member
Nvidia stock gains after Bank of America boosts target to Street-high $650
Shares of Nvidia Corp. undefined are up more than 3% in Wednesday morning trading after Bank of America analyst Vivek Arya upped his price objective on the...
figured this would happen. the showing the other day was really good
Man, I seriously looked into buy some Nvidia stock in March When it was around $200. Kicking myself for not pulling the trigger. Up almost 300%
BluRayHiDef
Banned
Don't care for 4K?
Rbk_3
Member
You would be much better off returning the crappy TCL TV you bought, buying an Oled that has HDMI 2.1 with VRR, 4k, 120, HDR, 4:4:4 and getting a 3080. Probably would work out to about the same $$.
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Rikkori
Member
You misunderstand. I wasn't telling you to get back on-topic, I was signalling a split in my post from my reply to you - so that you don't think the tweets I was quoting were somehow specifically for you.
Kinda. If we're lucky we can avoid losing too much $ on it & keep the cycle going of enjoying high-end PC gaming.
llien
Member
Those were Turing time TFlops.
We are almost there, Tim.
13.7 Turing Tflops = 20 Ampere TFlops (2080Ti to 3070)
He's not saying the 3080 is disappointing relative to the 2080. He's saying the 2080 was disappointing relative to the 1080 Ti, so the overall performance improvement over the last two generations is less impressive than it initially looks.
Nvidia "anchored" higher pricing with Turing, and now they are returning to how things were in previous generations (eg. 980 Ti vs. 1080 Ti).
GHG
Gold Member
B550 is newer than x570.
The only reason to go for X570 over B550 is if you need multiple pcie gen 4 nvme drives or if you need extra pcie lanes for a multi-gpu setup.
If all someone is concerned about is gaming then a midrange b550 is a much better buy.
Most x570 boards are trash until you get to the mid/high end and in the case of someone who is just going to use the PC for gaming you are adding expense for utility that will never get used.
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BluRayHiDef
Banned
F%$k OLED. I don't care for burn-in and low levels of brightness.
My TCL 55R635 is not a crappy TV; it reaches over 1300 nits in brightness and has a contrast ratio that's over 10,000:1. HDR content looks stunning on it. Also, it supports Variable Refresh Rate, Auto Low Latency Mode, and 4K @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4. Furthermore, even though it cannot display 4K @ 120Hz, it can display 1440p (and lower resolutions) @ 120Hz (with or without HDR), which I'm fine with. This TV is no slouch.
TheContact
Member
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
GHG
Gold Member
From a "feature-set" point of view I agree but the features on offer are ones that are of zero concern to gamers. From a gaming perspective it's not worth the extra cost for reasons I stated above and there's also the active cooling on the chipset to consider (b550 is completely passively cooled).
Mid range B550 motherboards > Cheap X570 motherboards (when similarly priced).
At this point no. My 1440p monitor is awesome and I'm happy with the resolution. Not looking to upgrade that for a while.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
right now that low vram is a problem imo.
when i spend 700 i like it too last. and for 1500 i think the same way
Ya exactly. Although I'm at 1440p I might bite the bullet and go for the 3090 and be golden for hopefully 4 years ... and silver for a couple more years
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Rikkori
Member
Nope. 16K at least. And more like 1000 FPS. And no denoising for ray tracing.
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pr0cs
Member
VR ensures there is no limit
Compsiox
Banned
Forgot about that somehow even as a VR enthusiast.
I think we'll have to stop seeing major jumps sooner or later though.
BluRayHiDef
Banned
I may have an issue. I don't think that a 3090 will fit in my computer tower; it's an NZXT H440.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
I was gonna get a 3080 but everyone is saying 10GB is not enough? I play at 1440p/144hz and have no intention of going to 4K any time soon.
I don't want to spend £750 more just for 24GB RAM and ~20% improvement in performance.
Is 10GB really not gonna be enough? Also I ain't sure if a 3090 would even fit in my case it's a Fractal Design Define S.
I don't want to spend £750 more just for 24GB RAM and ~20% improvement in performance.
Is 10GB really not gonna be enough? Also I ain't sure if a 3090 would even fit in my case it's a Fractal Design Define S.
Celcius
°Temp. member
I'm getting 3090. I play at 4K with max settings... I'll take all the horsepower I can get.
Calverz
Member
So anyone have any thoughts on the partner cards shown off? The MSI gaming trio looks pretty nice. Generally are the partner cards better for cooling etc than founders?? Personally i like the look of the founders but not an expert by any means. At the moment i think im set on the 3080. Will i get bottlenecks running alongside a ryzen 5 3600 cpu?
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
I don't like the look of any of the partner cards. Same with Turing. I got a 2080 Founders and have been quite happy with it. Partner cards will be cooler but I think temps are reasonable on the founders.
Overclocked and running Flight Simulator at 1440p Ultra the highest temp I got was 76C. Most games run at 60-70C and I play at 1440p 144hz. Noise isn't bad either. My PC sits on my desk right beside me (used to be under my desk) and noise doesn't bother me. When playing Flight Sim it was a bit loud but you can't hear it over the in game sounds of jet engines lol. I can never hear the fans over my speakers. Even if I turned them down low I don't think the noise would bother me.
The 3000 series founders looks like a huge improvement. Seems to have better airflow and much larger surface area for cooling. The fan shape is different too so I'd guess they are quieter. The 2080 fans are flatter where as the 3000 series fans are curved. Not entirely sure what difference thst will make but I imagine it'll be an improvement.
Calverz
Member
Thats good to hear then. Yea the design on these 3000 looks pretty cool. I think il just go with the founders then.
nightmare-slain
Gold Member
Oh and you should keep in mind that partner cards can turn fans off below a certain temperature. Usually 60C before they spin up. On founders cards they can't be turned off. My 2080 fans are constantly spinning at 41% even when the GPU is doing nothing and is like 30C.
It's possible the Ampere cards could let you turn the fans off but I'd assume not.
I'd say once the fans get to 60% they become noticeable. That's with 4x140mm case fans, 1x140mm and 1x135mm CPU fan...in a silent room. 70% is my limit but they never go over that anyway.
Calverz
Member
Ah! That is disappointing to hear. No idle fans.....hmmmm
Could be an issue. I often have a fan on in the room with my pc anyway so fuck it. Il go with founders. I mean traditionally how much more money would partner cards add?
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Seeing that 3070ti in that laptop with 16gb is giving me pause...
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Sentenza
Gold Member
Like the first wasn't embarrassing enough.