Nvidia's consumer graphics card product line this gen consisted of WAY too many products, and we consumers got screwed as a result.

kiphalfton

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Look at all the different products nvidia released this gen:

RTX 2080 Ti
RTX 2080 Super
RTX 2080
RTX 2070 Super
RTX 2070
RTX 2060 Super
RTX 2060
GTX 1660 Super
GTX 1660 Ti
GTX 1650

Having options is good, BUT I truly believe that it put a hard lower limit on pricing for each graphics card. I understand to an extent you can't expect one graphics card to go any lower than the next lower graphics card in line. That makes sense, but nvidia priced these so tightly, since there's so many different products this generation, that there wasn't any real room for discounts/savings/deals and consumers essentially paid msrp this entire generation. I mean seriously when I see some of the deal notifications on builadpcsales or slickdeals, I'm like "where is the deal".

It would have been one thing if nvidia had taken the RTX 2060/2070/2080 off the market, to give some breathing room... but they're still on the market. I don't think amd is entirely to blame, due to lack of competition, in regards to this crappy pricing/lack of deals.

We have been royally ripped off this gen by nvidia. I don't doubt pricing and number of products next gen will suck as well.
 
I'm pretty sure the four Supers only got introduced as a result of AMD bringing out the RTX 5000 series at the price and performance that they did.

You're right that Nvidia rips people off, though. They've been doing that for a while and keep getting away with it due to lack of meaningful competition from AMD. Hopefully that changes in the next round.
 
*Coughs on his coffee*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_700_series - 17 across 2 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_10_series - 10 across 2 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_16_series - 5 across 1 year

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_20_series - 8 across 1 year

It's uh, pretty average for nVidia to release GPUs like this

Now, over saturation with different manufacturers and shit, Gigabyte, MSI, all that shit, I totally agree with
 
I'm pretty sure the four Supers only got introduced as a result of AMD bringing out the RTX 5000 series at the price and performance that they did.

You're right that Nvidia rips people off, though. They've been doing that for a while and keep getting away with it due to lack of meaningful competition from AMD. Hopefully that changes in the next round.

Yep it's the lack of proper competition.

I'm pretty much waiting until AMD does to Nvidia what they've just done to Intel before even considering buying back into the PC space. My 9 year old PC is still going strong and does everything I need it to and still feels pretty good. Sure it's not playing modern games but mostly I'm just playing Sony First Parties these days anyway.

AMD have been kicking arse lately and when they get some of those big leaps to come to the graphics marker we're going to see some great stuff.

The way Nvidia has been gouging the market really gives me the irrits and I refuse to buy something at those prices especially when they're marked up so harshly because there is no competition. The worst thing is the amount of 2080ti you see out there even at the current insanity price point. Who can afford that? Well I guess I could afford it if I chose to save for it but I just can't drop that many $ on a video card that doesn't even play all games at 4K 60.
 
You're right that Nvidia rips people off, though. They've been doing that for a while and keep getting away with it due to lack of meaningful competition from AMD blind consumerism by gamers. Hopefully that changes in the next round.
Fixed.
 
Got is a big word, you did it to yourself by supporting them that's a choice each individual makes or made.
Same with any large corporation that has too big piece of the pie, they start to act like they are kings and queens.
 

Not at all... AMD was fine for the low-to-mid range, but they didn't have an answer to the 1080 until the Vega 64, which came out over a year later. Same story with the 2080 vs Radeon VII.

Better bang for your buck for sure, but they aren't always there when you want to have the best available.
 
We have been royally ripped off this gen by nvidia. I don't doubt pricing and number of products next gen will suck as well.
As a question for clarity of the OP, do you prefer nVidia or AMD cards currently? Also, in the future, are you thinking of swapping to the other vendor?
 
When the GPU alone costs more than a similarly powerful console, you know that shit is fucked up. Not much we can do though, either accept it or buy a console.
 
Not at all... AMD was fine for the low-to-mid range, but they didn't have an answer to the 1080 until the Vega 64, which came out over a year later. Same story with the 2080 vs Radeon VII.

Better bang for your buck for sure, but they aren't always there when you want to have the best available.
So? If something is too expensive, how about not buying it? There doesn't need to be competition. Too many gamers upgrade because of the shallow desire of wanting the newest thing, not because they actually NEED to upgrade. If no one buys a product, prices will automatically be lowered. And that works whether there is competition or not.
 
So? If something is too expensive, how about not buying it? There doesn't need to be competition. Too many gamers upgrade because of the shallow desire of wanting the newest thing, not because they actually NEED to upgrade. If no one buys a product, prices will automatically be lowered. And that works whether there is competition or not.

Yeah, that's why I haven't upgraded from my 1080 I bought 4 years ago.
 
When the GPU alone costs more than a similarly powerful console, you know that shit is fucked up. Not much we can do though, either accept it or buy a console.
Similarly powerful?

I take that offense

The GPUs offered at the same tiered price usually provide better graphics offered by consoles
Which is why my 1070 still pumps 120 frames on ultra for most modern games, and likely will going into 2k/4k

In the sense of labor and maintenance? Sure, I'd agree with that; not everyone has the knowledge to troubleshoot driver issues or something else like that. Does what it's supposed to out of the box, and if not the manufacturer takes care of it
 
Gamers keep buying them, but I understand the OP's concerns, releasing products doesn't hurt anyone, I wouldn't buy the new iPhone when I just bought the latest one.
 
As a question for clarity of the OP, do you prefer nVidia or AMD cards currently? Also, in the future, are you thinking of swapping to the other vendor?

I have owned a GPU from the gtx 500 series, 900 series, and 1000 series. I wouldn't say I prefer nvidia, so much as the price just happened to be right when I bought each graphics card and people bitch less about nvidia than amd. I'm super cheap so I'm talking like "stars aligning" type deals. Would never pay full retail for a graphics card, which is pretty much why I didn't buy anything this gen from nvidia.

Whether true or not, I still hear people complain about AMD's drivers. I would probably have otherwise bought a sapphire 5700 and flashed the bios to get 5700xt performance.
 
I wanna go back to the old days.
9000, 9200 - low end
9550, 9600 - mid range
9700, 9800 - high end.

And I miss those old tags they used to put on, GT, GTS, Pro, XTX.
Old days of tech were so fun and wild.
 
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