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NYT: Refugees and immigrants being detained at US airports right now.

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sindbadthesailor

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You know, in a roundabout way, this might just be a fantastic thing.

A) it kind of stops that ridiculous notion that America or even Western values are innately better than others

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B) might stop the brain drain not only in those countries directly affected, but in others places that might have seen America as a place of freedom and safety

Instead of the US and the west in general stealing the best and brightest from around the world, they're now left with a shortage of highly trained specialists. And instead of importing cheap labour to do the 'dirty' jobs, low IQ westerners can fill them instead, rather than becoming cops or joining the military as is currently the case.

Meanwhile, all those people who abuse their own countries resources, get educated and then immediately leave for a higher quality of life and more money in the US, are now forced to stay and build up their own societies. American influence declines as they weaken, while the rest of world is strengthened. Win-win.
 
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Tendo said:
Is that four republicans have now broke ranks? What can congress do to break this order? Can they pass something?
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Congress gets to make law, while these Executive orders exist in a murky grey area. Congress can absolutely overrule Trump here if they choose to.
 
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everyday math said:
What terrifies me the most is there no checks and balances happening right now. Our entire system is borked.
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The court will have the most immediate short term solution, but yeah outside of that, Congress won't do much. Even with Trump appointing one SCOTUS justice, it won't change the traditional conservative majority. If can appoint one or two more, though. Then that check will go away too.
 
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BronzeWolf

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Ihyll said:
The world is uniting against the U.S.

Peru and Colombia vow to stand with Mexico after row with Trump

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15B2IA

Maybe Uruguay, Argentina, Chile and even Mexico can resettle some of the refugees. Hopefully the rest of the world stands up against this orange turd
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Yeah, good luck getting those Middle Eastern refugees to learn spanish and apply for jobs here.

It would be nice but people do not come to latin american countries, they go to Europe or the USA
 
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everyday math

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Guys this entire twitter chain is amazing. Give it some love. Follows the protestors and lawyers doing work.

GoldenEye 007 said:
The court will have the most immediate short term solution, but yeah outside of that, Congress won't do much. Even with Trump appointing one SCOTUS justice, it won't change the traditional conservative majority. If can appoint one or two more, though. Then that check will go away too.
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Yeah I meant more congress wise.
 
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sean.
@SeanMcElwee
amazing to think that two months ago the Very Serious Liberal Consensus was Democrats should de-prioritize civil rights to expand their base

4:36pm · 28 Jan 2017 · Twitter for iPhone
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hmmm
 
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I thought this didn't apply to people who already have valid and approved visas. Did the executive order explicitly say otherwise or is there the possibility of some administrative errors here?
 
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excelsiorlef

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sindbadthesailor said:
You know, in a roundabout way, this might just be a fantastic thing.

A) it kind of stops that ridiculous notion that America or even Western values are innately better than others

and

B) might stop the brain drain not only in those countries directly affected, but in others places that might have seen America as a place of freedom and safety

Instead of the US and the west in general stealing the best and brightest from around the world, they're now left with a shortage of highly trained specialists. And instead of importing cheap labour to do the 'dirty' jobs, low IQ westerners can fill them instead, rather than becoming cops or joining the military as is currently the case.

Meanwhile, all those people who abuse their own countries resources, get educated and then immediately leave for a higher quality of life and more money in the US, are now forced to stay and build up their own societies. American influence declines as they weaken, while the rest of world is strengthened. Win-win.
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Yeah man oppression in the name of revenge and anti-west philosophy is so fantastic.

Christ you're cheerleading minorities having their families torn apart, refugees being denied safety in the name of some suck it America principle.

I love the accusations of immigrants being abusers of their home countries. That's a lovely sentiment.
 
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Tovarisc said:
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https://twitter.com/justinamash
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The fact that he is drawing an equivalence with Obama's EO tells you enough. He wants to this as a platform to hurl criticism towards a Dem president as if that is his primary role in life. Fuck him.
 
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GoldenEye 007

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prag16 said:
I thought this didn't apply to people who already have valid and approved visas. Did the executive order explicitly say otherwise or is there the possibility of some administrative errors here?
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They clarified and said not only does it apply to valid visa holders, but permanent residents too.
 
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Syriel

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prag16 said:
I thought this didn't apply to people who already have valid and approved visas. Did the executive order explicitly say otherwise or is there the possibility of some administrative errors here?
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It applies regardless of visa or green card. No error.

Meus Renaissance said:
The fact that he is drawing an equivalence with Obama's EO tells you enough. He wants to this as a platform to hurl criticism towards a Dem president as if that is his primary role in life. Fuck him.
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Tell me when Republican members of Congress actually take action. Simply making statements on Twitter is nothing more than PR/damage control.
 
RPGCrazied

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gatling said:
Just heard unofficially at the JFK protests NYC taxis will be on strike tomorrow. Not sure the legitimacy.
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Would be nice. Everyone needs to go on strike, this needs backlash. Bigger the backlash they will have no choice but to fix the mess they created.
 
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