serious ethical violation. better to just stay out of it than suggest self-sabotage.
the eo won't stand on its own anyway
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serious ethical violation. better to just stay out of it than suggest self-sabotage.
the eo won't stand on its own anyway
BlackGhost
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Alligatorjandro
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Gonna test out the courts to show they are traitors and strip them of their power
ZoltanXerxes
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I'm a Canadian that is very proud of my American neighbors tonight (except Trump and his admin).
Can't wait for the inevitable salty tweet from the cheeto lord.
Roosevelt would punch Trump in the mouth, if only for his views towards the environment, nevermind the other stuff(assuming we're talking about Teddy, FDR would still probably run over his toes with his wheelchair).
Roosevelt would punch Trump in the mouth, if only for his views towards the environment, nevermind the other stuff(assuming we're talking about Teddy, FDR would still probably run over his toes with his wheelchair).
Not my domain anyway, but yeah.
It's going to be interesting to see what sort of exodus happens this year from the rank and file attorneys in the Justice Department. Particularly with a hiring freeze.
Yup.
Red meat for the base and a general statement of intent
BronzeWolf
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For fuck's sake stop bed-wetting (yes I did it)
The alternative was for this ban to stay in place and THEN Trump-Bannon shit-stains would know they can do what they want.
They know that for now at least they have to lawyer up their crap
TheStruggler
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Fiancée and I are muslims in Canada, just donated!
also poutine all around on us
also poutine all around on us
I'm not a lawyer but every meaningful action by Trump that has sown chaos thus far (Mexico, Immigration Ban) could be interpreted as the acts of party (Trump and his close circle) who don't understand that other actors have agency and can do stuff - almost like Intro Game Theory 101.
I choose to interpet this as a sign of weakness from Trump and his team.
BronzeWolf
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A taco has been raised from Mexico!
North America represent
Trump is used to being the big bully. He thinks that being POTUS means he is the big bully of the world. He fails to realize that other countries can be even bigger bullies and have been playing at the world stage for much much longer than him.
He is the new kid at school wanting to run the show, but quickly being slapped down to submission
Tallshortman
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/us/syrian-family-trump-travel-ban/index.html
Way to let the Christians in too you dumb orange peel
Way to let the Christians in too you dumb orange peel
CrispyBoar
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Make sure to tell all of your families, your friends, co-workers, whoever, to let them know what ACLU is & make a donation to them, whatever it's in real life or on social media. If they can't, then protest. Go wild.
It's the only way some shit will get done.
It's the only way some shit will get done.
Fancyarcher
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Awesome! This is why people protests.
Wonder how the orange man is feeling? He must be pissed!
Wonder how the orange man is feeling? He must be pissed!
AlimNassor
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This is so fucked up. What terrorist attacks have we had no American soil fro immigrants? Can anyone explain that to me? Surely we're doing something right if we're not having any attacks. So how will a ban stop terrorists? Let's just turn America into a iron fort and build a wall around the whole country...! We're so screwed.
I hope he's livid and it keeps him up all night.
HP_Wuvcraft
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I hope people understand the significance of this picture.
That's why some GOP members spoke out.
I'm going to say this. Trump is fucking up. He's doing too much way too fucking fast.
Bannon is like a kid in a candy store. He has all this access and wants to do it all right now.
Trump could have gotten away with this shit if he knew politics and took his time. Went to congress told them his plan and been "pragmatic" about it.
Congress could have drafted up something that said outside of those that have visas and green cards we're going to be more aggressive on the vetting process of those coming from these (insert countries here).
But no. They are doing too much too fast and people are paying attention.
Darth Pinche
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aaah Yeahhh!! Get fucked Trump!
capitalCORN
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You mean the hero awaiting justice to be carried out?
Holy shit, this is my back yard. This is going to enrage the local Syrian community here.
Living in DC....even tho I be sad at times now I'm also proud to be here when things like this happen.
BronzeWolf
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So wait, this ban is still in effect, just NOT for people going to the US or already there?
WTF?
That is still a shit proposition!
That EO has to GO
WTF?
That is still a shit proposition!
That EO has to GO
Darth Pinche
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I'm visiting Vancouver right now, I'll have some in your honor!
TheOctodad
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I was an outspoken moderate that barely cared about politics before this election. I voted, but that's it for most of my life.
I am livid with the GOP and many of the Dems. I am not going back to being complacent for the rest of my life.
orthodoxy1095
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The "art of the deal." They proposed something ludicrously bad, so if/when it gets overturned, they can come back with something that seems far less terrible and people will accept it in relief that it's not as bad as the first attempt. Overton Window type stuff.
a common practice in politics is to do something beyond what they want to see the reception, if nobody says nothing, its the dream for they, but if people revolt, they change it to something they originaly wanted, and sometimes they can turn people and media to their side, if people still dont like the new law, because the government listened and the people that still protest dont, and are unreasonable
i saw this a number of times
SolidSnakex
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They probably don't really know what to do. On one hand this is absolutely rallying a bunch of American's together, but on the other hand they saw what happened to them when they spoke out against Trump when the Access Hollywood tape leaked. Despite the presidential victory, Trump's decisions have more than likely fucked their party in a way that they can't fix it.
Word salad.
BronzeWolf
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Except this is no business negotiation. They are galvanizing and burning through their approval rating pretty fast
EmCeeGramr
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SafeinSound
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So prettt much people need to keep fighting
FloydtheFathead
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:jnc
ALWAYS. Now more than ever
Vivian Ho ‏@VivianHo
News of @ACLU victory/emergency stay reaches #SFO #MuslimBanprotest (video)
News of @ACLU victory/emergency stay reaches #SFO #MuslimBanprotest (video)
BlastProcessing
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He wants a hot war. You force everyone to take sides and fight. Once that happens he will be able to take the gloves off and really go for it.
CrispyBoar
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This; Remember shit such as SOPA, PIPA, etc.?
Uh... usually they do this with leaks. They'll float an idea and then distance themselves from it if it goes wrong. But even doing that sort of plan with an official press secretary like they did with the 20% tax thing is nuts, and doing it with actual implemented law is completely reckless and nuts beyond belief. It doesn't have the same effects as trial ballooning an idea at all.
I wasn't saying that the win was pointless or that they shouldn't have bothered, geez.
My bad for being so terse. What I mean is that Bannon doesn't give a shit about the system. I see this as him testing the waters so that he can figure out a way to go around the judicial system. And it's that part that concerns me. I just wish there was a way to keep the attention on his actions because he's one of the biggest villains here. Main stream news outlets are so bad about focusing on something as subtle as his influence.
Damn, man. I don't even know what to say. Words of gratitude are just not adequate.
orthodoxy1095
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Double he gives much of a shit. Approval is fickle anyways. All you need is a small economic boom or a terrorist attack and his approval will probably rebound.
Until their last breath, yes.
TheOctodad
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Personally I think Bannon wants protestors to either give up or cross the line so he can keep them from protesting by point at their violent/destructive acts.
Then he can clamp down and either arrest you or you will be quiet.
Then he can clamp down and either arrest you or you will be quiet.
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