Well, at least the GOPers in the house would have to say something (at the very least be making a statement with their vote) on the whole ordeal. Honestly, every single elected member of the house and senate needs to release a statement on this bullshit. You can't just be silent when there is this must chaos and outrage; if you agree with Trump, fine, if you disagree, fine. Whatever your views, as an elected member of congress. release a fucking statement.
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Well, at least the GOPers in the house would have to say something (at the very least be making a statement with their vote) on the whole ordeal. Honestly, every single elected member of the house and senate needs to release a statement on this bullshit. You can't just be silent when there is this must chaos and outrage; if you agree with Trump, fine, if you disagree, fine. Whatever your views, as an elected member of congress. release a fucking statement.
excelsiorlef
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Yes.
If no one enforces the rulings of the Judiciary but they continue to enforce the rulings of the Executive... it is that easy
Sorry, I didn't read any sarcasm in that.
Doesn't matter. Forces members of both Houses to speak and vote.
If they vote against this, they will draw ire from the people all over this country. If they vote for this, they will draw the ire of Trump/Bannon/Miller and further divide the legislature.
Gurgelhals
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I guess it depends on the circumstances. If they're just giving no comment because the situation is chaotic and unclear, then that's one thing. However, if this is the government explicitly ordering them to not talk to congressmen, then that's different. That's the executive actively taking steps to prevent the legislative from doing the kind of oversight of the government that it is supposed to do.
The support is so universal in some fields, I wonder if the US could actually get a general strike going.
BronzeWolf
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This is so fucking confusing
PandaPandaPanda
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He talks a lot but he votes with his party. I'm not expecting anything from him.
Not a snowball's chance in Maine, 2040.
Gordon Shumway
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How about read what I wrote again, bozo, and relax your asshole..😕
Have some common sense..
UnemployedVillain
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McCain is all hot air. I feel like he's "said something" on a number of occasions, but his actions don't match his words in any way, as he just falls in line with the rest of Republicans
TheOctodad
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It force people to take a side. And it's a side they are trying to avoid taking right now.
Basically its, "Are you going to renounce him? Or do you want to be dragged down with him?"
smokeandmirrors
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yep after all trumps disgusting comments he still did nothing but rim him. fucking spineless coward.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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It's not even weak, it's fucking nothing. Hey, yeah I guess maybe they didn't talk to other people enough but ya know border security and stuff.
I'm not quite sure how that's possible when he ends with "fucking assholes".
TheMagician
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I predict there is going to be a "terrorist attack" in the coming weeks or months.
Trump will then use this "attack" to prove that he was right all along and his supporters will use it as evidence to support their extreme beliefs.
Something similar occurred during the rise of the Nazi regime and the aftermath resulted in the press being gagged and protests being banned.
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007657
Trump will then use this "attack" to prove that he was right all along and his supporters will use it as evidence to support their extreme beliefs.
Something similar occurred during the rise of the Nazi regime and the aftermath resulted in the press being gagged and protests being banned.
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007657
nintendoman58
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Probably not, but the fact that this is being introduced during all these protests is still good to see.
This needs to be kept up,
LudicrousSpeed
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The answer is no for both for a very simple reason.
The legislative calendar in each chamber is set by the majority leader. If Mitch McConnell refuses to set the legislation for discussion, it won't come up and will never come to the point of a vote in the Senate. In the House, there's at least a thing called a Discharge Petition which Representatives can use to force a bill to the floor of the House, but those are very rarely used and means you've got people in your caucus willing to tell their majority leader "Fuck you".
In order to get traction for either, you need Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan. Which is why everyone's been trying to get them to talk about where they stand.
The longer Trump and his ilk are left in power, the more time they have to come up with and implement ideas like that.
You guys need to get him out before then.
Gurgelhals
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What if there's no vote at all? Not sure about Senate procedures, but isn't it essentially down to the slimy turtle whether to bring a bill to the floor and actually vote on it or not?
Edit: question answered, two posts above. thx. Yup, the turtle is definitely going to brush these aside...
CrispyBoar
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We may not have a choice.
They have to be stopped somehow before they go overboard with their insane policies.
everyday math
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Interesting. Well at least it forces Mitch in some way to actually take a side.
TheOctodad
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Honestly, with what I'm seeing and hearing from protestors, I don't think we'll buy that shit.
We're a post 9/11 generation. We know what that got us. I think we're beyond being intimidated by that at this point.
Well, if the GOP have any spines, yes. Even if Trump vetos it, it can pass if the majority of Congress says yes.
They're force to take a side here, you are either with the people and what America stands for, or you're going down with the fascist. If that's case, they can say goodbye to their seat in 2018. The worse is yet to come and when it does the entire nation is going to feel it, and the GOP have no democrats in power to blame.
That won't save you, President Citrus. It takes awhile to get through the process and even when done, you're going to fill a seat that was previously taken by a seriously deep conservative. You're just making the Supreme Court be the way it was during Obama's time. I expecting a 5-4 vote saying what you did was unconstitutional.
Not going to happen. The majority in Congress belongs to racist yesmen lining up to lick Trump's foot, there is no chance he doesn't stay for at least an entire term.
CrispyBoar
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Oh no...
Waldo Lydecker
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This. I was thinking the same. We must be really prepared and focused about this.
Trying to distract from he Muslim ban no doubt
UnObtainium17
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Yep. Just like he restarted that talk of millions of votes were fraudulent just as when that golden shower dossier gained traction. This is no different.
Trickster
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For sure, it's a very transparent attempts at a distraction
From the steps of the Capitol.
Trump certainly does know how to draw a huge crowd.
Republicans trying to have Trump get shit done ASAP before he gets ousted and takes the blame.
TheMan
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That would be extremely difficult. As much as the current situation sucks, this is pretty much what he promised to do while he was campaigning, and there were enough voting americans who approved of this that he was able to win the election. Not to mention, the GOP won a bunch of downballot races as well.
America is getting what America asked for.
Honestly, the only thing that would work is if solid, verifiable evidence of collusion with Russia to rig the election was to be unearthed. Even then, the stars would have to align for anything to come of it.
I wouldn't worry too much. The court was often reasonable with Scalia on it, and this won't be any worse. Other justices dying is the big concern.
everyday math
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But like with everything Trump, news organizations will shift their focus to that and the ban may only get third or fourth story of the day rather than wall-to-wall coverage.
I didn't find it that "weak" at all. He basically condemned his actions as irresponsible and handled poorly
UnObtainium17
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Honestly I'm not that optimistic he's gonna get impeached either. Maybe after 2018 then we'll see.
SatelliteOfLove
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"Wait, Steve, not THOSE countries though. I have hotels there!"
Darryl M R
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At first I didn't believe he was trying to hide bad news with bad news, and then I started believing it was exactly what he is doing. But now I don't know if it helps him anymore.
Also less of "smokescreens" and more along the lines of "people naturally can not focus on too many issues at once."
But he is using so much of the little political capital he has I don't know if him picking a terrible pick will only fuel more people.
phxxBullet
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Well, they already told the press to just shut up and want to higher penalties for protests, so there's that.
From bottom up.
https://twitter.com/jasoncherkis
Basically they are continuing doing what EO told them to.
https://twitter.com/jasoncherkis
Basically they are continuing doing what EO told them to.
Gordon Shumway
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BinaryPork2737
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This is already worldwide news. Of course a SCOTUS pick will get attention here, but it's not like people are just going to stop fighting this just because he announced a pick.
PandaPandaPanda
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From bottom up.
https://twitter.com/jasoncherkis
Basically they are continuing doing what EO told them to.
what the fuck
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