wild wild rice
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100% understandable. The PPVs actually focus on wrestling.
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100% understandable. The PPVs actually focus on wrestling.
i miss u.
wild wild rice
Member
HoHo Lun
in 2016
No, but seriously I think I'm gonna enjoy the shit out of many of these matches.
in 2016
No, but seriously I think I'm gonna enjoy the shit out of many of these matches.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I assume Sanity (although isn't Sanity a stable with 4 people in it?) is going over to set up a Tye/Roode feud?
I'm gonna laugh when Nikki Cross ends up being Sister Abigail.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Erick Rowan is out four to six months apparently.
SallyIsNow
Banned
The Wyatt curse. Braun's not too far behind.
It really was eye opening for me to go back and watch old Nitro and WCW stuff.
Only WCW I ever watched prior to the network was a few nitros I flipped back and forth from and Thunder because it wasn't on the same night as Smackdown.
Just treating wrestling like a sport and making the confrontation the most important part changes so much. I'm convinced that the WWE since they have won have grown the fans into people who thing presentation is more important than the substance.
Look at somebody like Xavier Woods vs a Ric Flair for example.
Xavier prioritizes being an entertainer over the sporting aspect. He symbolizes the current era where the goal is "to put smiles on faces". They are more circus performers than they are fake fighters today. Xavier would fit right at home on an episode of Whose Line is it Anyway? but you wouldn't dare think of using him as an athlete or fighter. People don't want to see him in the ring. They pretty much just want to cheer the entrance and laugh at a joke or reference that he read a comic in 1997.
Flair while entertaining would use his promo skills and outfits/gimmicks to draw people in to the "sport". It was all about the confrontation with Flair and Savage, Flair and Vader, Flair and Dusty. Even if you knew he couldn't really fight the fake fight is what you came to see.
This year one of the most promoted acts at Wrestlemania was The Rock. A man who is the definition of entertainment today. His appearance was one first things that was promoted about the event and yet he felt that a satisfactory performance for the audience was 5 minutes on the mic and 7 seconds in the ring.
I'm not even saying that wrestling can't be entertainment based but it needs to be written and produced by say the people who make Lucha Underground or somebody with Matt Hardy's vision for what his character is.
Only WCW I ever watched prior to the network was a few nitros I flipped back and forth from and Thunder because it wasn't on the same night as Smackdown.
Just treating wrestling like a sport and making the confrontation the most important part changes so much. I'm convinced that the WWE since they have won have grown the fans into people who thing presentation is more important than the substance.
Look at somebody like Xavier Woods vs a Ric Flair for example.
Xavier prioritizes being an entertainer over the sporting aspect. He symbolizes the current era where the goal is "to put smiles on faces". They are more circus performers than they are fake fighters today. Xavier would fit right at home on an episode of Whose Line is it Anyway? but you wouldn't dare think of using him as an athlete or fighter. People don't want to see him in the ring. They pretty much just want to cheer the entrance and laugh at a joke or reference that he read a comic in 1997.
Flair while entertaining would use his promo skills and outfits/gimmicks to draw people in to the "sport". It was all about the confrontation with Flair and Savage, Flair and Vader, Flair and Dusty. Even if you knew he couldn't really fight the fake fight is what you came to see.
This year one of the most promoted acts at Wrestlemania was The Rock. A man who is the definition of entertainment today. His appearance was one first things that was promoted about the event and yet he felt that a satisfactory performance for the audience was 5 minutes on the mic and 7 seconds in the ring.
I'm not even saying that wrestling can't be entertainment based but it needs to be written and produced by say the people who make Lucha Underground or somebody with Matt Hardy's vision for what his character is.
We've got a True Believer on our hands!
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I wonder what chaos Data will wreak here when Vader gets signed for an appearance in New Japan and beats Naito clean in under 5 minutes
Its not like the WWE didn't used to build around confrontations.
Austin always confronting Vince.
Angle confronting anyone.
Brock kayefabe refusing to let anyone beat him on his rise in 2002.
The wrestling is the one thing that wrestling does have over most mediums and the fact that its scripted can lead to great matches and the fairy tale story. Although maybe part of the problem today is people know a main event has to go 20+ minutes and until they've kicked out of 4 finishers (or 56 with cena matches) that they can't buy a finish.
I mean I still can't get over how Vince thought that after beating Ziggler over and over and over and over again that 1 win would revive his credibility and help him be one of the main events of summerslam.
Nocturnowl
Member
Sweet jesus, we have another PPV incoming already?
I thought we were having a bit of a laugh when we said that it felt weird not having a PPV last Sunday yet here we are.
Uno Venova
Banned
Maybe this will accelerate the timeline for Harper coming back.
lol Naito wouldn't last 5 minutes.
Maybe Captain New Japan with the SuperKick Business exposesers might get Gedo's approval to go over.
Dental Plan
Member
As someone who actually watches all three hours of raw I might just do that. PPVs and smackdown. It's getting tough to watch raw 3 hours. Last night I got home at 845 and I didn't even miss anything on raw.
JehutyRunner
Banned
That's when happens when we have a brand split and have one every two weeks. Thankfully, after Hell in a Cell, we get a bit of a breather for three or four weeks with both shows having to prep their show-specific cards for Survivor Series.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Apparently he's fighting Sami at a house show tomorrow.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Yeah, he got cleared a week or two ago
Professor Beef
Banned
but i thought he liked ska
blackaroni
Member
Was he injured last night or something?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Don't know when the injury occurred but the surgery happened this morning. rotator cuff as I said (a tear)
BewareTheBatsie
Member
I want to believe Bray wins at Sunday to get a title feud with Styles but we all know the plan for Survivor Series is likely Orton vs Styles.
Nocturnowl
Member
It's true enough that the current PPV explosion does make for a nice alternative to enduring the weekly wwe slog.
Even when Raw has something good going for it the previous endurance run of meaningless fluff content manages to make me lose interest in even the bits I should like.
SD at least has shorter run time to make it more digestible.
I blame Seff.
Even when Raw has something good going for it the previous endurance run of meaningless fluff content manages to make me lose interest in even the bits I should like.
SD at least has shorter run time to make it more digestible.
I blame Seff.
Dental Plan
Member
I would pay up to $40 a month if I could watch Smackdown and Raw live on the network.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm guessing it's bad karma for going around backstage at WrestleMania telling everyone he was planning to shoot on the Rock.
Nocturnowl
Member
The Kaladin WWE digestion plan is genuinely the way forward.
This still tickles me.
This still tickles me.
and subs being something that you just grab a rope to get out of.
Subs should be things that are always teased but when they are hit a performer taps.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
For Raw and Smackdown sure, but for PPV's it tends to Just be a minute of a match to get people interested.
Dental Plan
Member
Haha. Okay thats a bit much. Realistically I'd pay $20-25 a month.
Right now I just use my Sisters cable login to watch USA live on the usa website.
Sasha taking lessons from The Miz I see.
You never know how much you miss commercials till they are blacked out for the entire commercial break.
Uno Venova
Banned
Botch intermission.
Sin Cara matches were fucking hilarious.
Ban should be lifted for Wrestlemania
FlammableD
Banned
ahh, she tried
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Her wellness suspension is up but she still has her injury. Probably won't see her for a while.
Yeah, at least she tried. I honestly can't tell if she was out of place or if Charlotte was cutting the move too short.
serenewarfare
Banned
She mentioned a while ago that she had a consultation about surgery for her neck/back issues, so she might be out for a while.
next week is maim a plumber day.
What's WrestleMania? Did you mean Starrcade?
Poor Mario/TL Hopper