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[Angry Grimace]

Why would WWE even want the TNA library other than as a way to avoid having to sell who Bobby Roode, Samoa Joe and AJ Styles are (none of which seems to matter at all?).

Hard drives?this TNA we are talking about . It is probably on 1000 different Lazerdisk

Are we sure its not literal tape?

 

[avengers23]

Why would WWE even want the TNA library other than as a way to avoid having to sell who Bobby Roode, Samoa Joe and AJ Styles are (none of which seems to matter at all?).



Are we sure its not literal tape?

Because WWE Network needs content, and WWE wants to be the de facto monopoly.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Why would WWE even want the TNA library other than as a way to avoid having to sell who Bobby Roode, Samoa Joe and AJ Styles are (none of which seems to matter at all?).



Are we sure its not literal tape?

Easily provides them a few hundred more hours of content.

 

[ThreePiMatt]

I would love if they brought up Joe to feud with AJ and they very deliberately act like this is their first encounter with each other. Then, as soon as Vince buys TNA's tape library switch it up and talk about their long history with each other.

 

[Hasney]

Wouldn't have been shocked if Dixie gave WWE a discount for paying up front to fund Bound for Glory, making the secret investor MEEKMAAN HIMSELF.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

And different file types too. A good chunk in WMV format, a few MP4s, and then a bunch of AVIs in different codecs.

It's their IT tech with just a lanyard of USB drives

 

[HazySaiyan]

Yo what kind of carny shit is this?

 

[Anth0ny]

It's happening!!!



https://twitter.com/JustinLaBar/status/783706620505260033?s=09

holy shit.

really hoping WWE doesn't present TNA as a joke (even though it kinda was... YOU JUST BOUGHT IT). I don't feel like there's any beef there like there was between WWE and WCW. we know downplaying the impact of WCW at every possible opportunity makes Vince sleep at night.

TNA should be portrayed the same way ROH was in the Punk DVD: a secondary promotion that gave a huge stage to up and comers like AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, and all of the other former TNA talent currently performing in WWE.

I expect a "best of AJ Styles" DVD or Network special to be the first thing they do with this footage.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

I would love if they brought up Joe to feud with AJ and they very deliberately act like this is their first encounter with each other. Then, as soon as Vince buys TNA's tape library switch it up and talk about their long history with each other.

WWE doesn't really shy away from people knowing each other. AJ and the Club were immediately pinned together and Summerslam tossed a small little reference to them knowing Finn. Sami and Owens have their past as friends from the Indie's brought up every time they're on-screen together.

 

[FlammableD]

First things first, TNA needs to actually deliver the library. Knowing TNA it's probably a disorganized mess.

They have an on demand already I think, I'm sure it's not that bad.

EDIT: yeah: https://www.youtube.com/user/TNAwrestlingPLUS

EDIT EDIT: though lolTNA, they haven't touched it for like 3 years.

 

[Uno Venova]

As seen on Monday's RAW from Los Angeles, the announcers referred to the crowd as "fans" instead of the WWE Universe when Rusev kicked United States Champion Roman Reigns over the ringside barrier. According to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, this was an intentional change.

I don't know about you guys. But if this is true it would improve the product 10 fucking times over. Universe is the lamest name to refer to your fans as.

At the same time it's probably not true because the Universal title name wouldn't make much sense anymore.

 

[funkystudent]

I think we have done the "TNA is totally dying this time" thread in OT a few times already.

We should wait for official confirmation before breaking the news to the rest of GAF.



But why would Corgan not just leave and start a fresh company? Basically all he gets is some wrestling rings and a bunch of debt.

 

[slightconfuse]

Next Lapsed Fan in KOTR 2001!!!

 

[Oersted]

Sasha vs Charlotte is still fun enough on a rewatch. Charlotte's so good that even her post-match meltdown and rant overshadowed Sasha's win.

If you think how much progress she made and then compare it to a certain guy

 

[Heroman]

Are we sure its not literal tape?

Let's be honest , It probably just Hulk Hogan shooting for 1000 hours.

 

[DMczaf]

Next Lapsed Fan in KOTR 2001!!!

More attitude era 😑

 

[British Monsoon]

Yo what kind of carny shit is this?

The worst sin of a money mark is to put themselves front and centre in their own money mark promotion.

 

[Rodeo Clown]

But why would Corgan not just leave and start a fresh company? Basically all he gets is some wrestling rings and a bunch of debt.

Because he'll still have a TV contract and all the talent already signed. I imagine it's really hard to get a startup wrestling promotion a TV deal in 2016.

 

[Vince_Russo]

Wow

What is TNA without its video library? Can TNA put "classic" matches out at all from now on if WWE owns the right?

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

The worst sin of a money mark is to put themselves front and centre in their own money mark promotion.

And to think those guys give the McMahon's shit for being constantly on the product and taking time from the wrestlers.

 

[KingBroly]

Wow

What is TNA without its video library? Can TNA put "classic" matches out at all from now on if WWE owns the right?

A new wrestling company.

 

[Anth0ny]

Wow

What is TNA without its video library? Can TNA put "classic" matches out at all from now on if WWE owns the right?

If I had to guess, they're filming this week as TNA, and these tapes will last them through the end of the year. WWE owns all of this footage.

At that point (lets say 2017), they will change the name, but everyone who worked for TNA will still be around. TV deals still in place. WWE does not own the footage in 2017 and going forward.

at least that's how I understand it.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Just spoke with San Antonio PD - where the ADR incident allegedly happened - who said they had no stabbing incidents reported all weekend.

Del Rio will do anything to get out of working for AAA. /s

 

[funkystudent]

TBH I am disappointing we wouldn't get "the final episode of TNA" where they go nuts and unify all the titles and whatnot like WCW and ECW.

I would have watched that

 

[Angry Grimace]

If I had to guess, they're filming this week as TNA, and these tapes will last them through the end of the year. WWE owns all of this footage.

At that point (lets say 2017), they will change the name, but everyone who worked for TNA will still be around. TV deals still in place. WWE does not own the footage in 2017 and going forward.

at least that's how I understand it.

I would imagine they'd have enough money through the POP tv deal to film and then they'd rebrand and find a new broadcast partner. Meltzer says the problem with the TV deal was Dixie (and doing shit like bringing in Russo in secret) in large part.

 

[Hasney]

TBH I am disappointing we wouldn't get "the final episode of TNA" where they go nuts and unify all the titles and whatnot like WCW and ECW.

I would have watched that

They might do something like that as the last episode before the re-brand though.

 

[Rockandrollclown]

WWE really needs to do like a "Fall and Fall of TNA" series. Hopefully with an entire episode devoted to talking shit about Jeff Jarrett.

 

[slightconfuse]

Meekmahan now owns broken Matt hardy footage :-|

 

[Vince_Russo]

If I had to guess, they're filming this week as TNA, and these tapes will last them through the end of the year. WWE owns all of this footage.

At that point (lets say 2017), they will change the name, but everyone who worked for TNA will still be around. TV deals still in place. WWE does not own the footage in 2017 and going forward.

at least that's how I understand it.

Ah ok, that makes sense.

Well that's exciting -- WWE really giving you that bang for your 9.99 on their Network.

And let's see what Corgan can do as president of a pro wrestling company with TV -- although as I understand it, didn't he use his mentally slow brother as an on air heel character on his indie wrestling company that he used to run?

 

[Angry Grimace]

WWE doesn't really shy away from people knowing each other. AJ and the Club were immediately pinned together and Summerslam tossed a small little reference to them knowing Finn. Sami and Owens have their past as friends from the Indie's brought up every time they're on-screen together.

I was pretty surprised they didn't keep Finn and AJ on the same brand since that seems like an obvious match with a lot of potential for hype.

Then again, I keep hoping that they position WrestleMania as the SD vs. Raw PPV that has the champs from each division square off for the WrestleMania 2017 Trophy or something so you get to see something cool. They never seemed interested in that before, though so I doubt it.

 

[Raw64life]

WWE really needs to do like a "Fall and Fall of TNA" series. Hopefully with an entire episode devoted to talking shit about Jeff Jarrett.

It would need to be about 100 episodes with all the material they have to draw from.

 

[imBask]

oh man all of Shark Boys matches for only 9.99?

 

[Data West]

god damn

Is this the new Wrasslegaf gimmick?

 

[Rockandrollclown]

It would need to be about 100 episodes with all the material they have to draw from.

Heh, I was actually reading through that right now.

 

[The Elite]

So they name a title after marks and then change the name of the marks.

 

[SallyIsNow]

So happy they kept Finn away from AJ. Don't need that painted up vanilla midget dragging the Face that Runs the Place down.

 

[Anth0ny]

change the name and fulfill russo's dream

SEX

SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT XTREME

 

[sf2fanatic]

god damn

I am ready to see TNA on the WWE Network.

Maybe this is why Daniel Bryan mentioned TNA on Talking Smack.

I'm ready for KO vs Seff with no audience match

 

[Jamie OD]

I think we have done the "TNA is totally dying this time" thread in OT a few times already.

We should wait for official confirmation before breaking the news to the rest of GAF.



But why would Corgan not just leave and start a fresh company? Basically all he gets is some wrestling rings and a bunch of debt.

He presumably gets to keep the TV time slot, wrestler contracts and taping locations so he won't have to start everything from scratch.

But yeah I'd wait until we get strong confirmation it's happening. TNA being the zombie it is means it never goes away.

 

[Syder]

Luke Cage?

You just made the Netflix list!

 

[Cheetos is Pretty Awesome]

I don't know about you guys. But if this is true it would improve the product 10 fucking times over. Universe is the lamest name to refer to your fans as.

At the same time it's probably not true because the Universal title name wouldn't make much sense anymore.

The whole branding everything is fucking shit and needed to stop. It's like Stephanie attended a Marketing 101 class and decided that EVERYTHING needed to match their "brand."

 

[Shadow780]

Dear god I hope Sasha's alive after

Spoiler

rumored HIAC match

 

[Uno Venova]

The whole branding everything is fucking shit and needed to stop. It's like Stephanie attended a Marketing 101 class and decided that EVERYTHING needed to match their "brand."

She's terrible, along with Universe, everything about the branding makes Raw looks like this safe, sterile, predictable show and I wonder why they even bother calling it 'RAW'.

 

[slightconfuse]

change the name and fulfill russo's dream

SEX

SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT XTREME

American
Shoot
Style

 

[Alucard]

Watched episode 1 of Luke Cage. I think I'm going to like this ride.

 

[Uno Venova]

Going through PROGRESS is so much fun right now, up to chapter 12 and Jimmy Havoc's storyline is so simple yet so great. And the London Riots are the best part of the shows, real heat magnets.

 

[British Monsoon]

Is this the new Wrasslegaf gimmick?

Hey! Quit it.

Going through PROGRESS is so much fun right now, up to chapter 12 and Jimmy Havoc's storyline is so simple yet so great. And the London Riots are the best part of the shows, real heat magnets.

The best thing about Havoc's storyline was that his arguments had an element of truth to them, it was just the way he went about achieving his aims that made him a cunt - wrestling needs more nuanced storytelling like that. A heel who I can understand his motivation, but can't agree with his actions.

 

[notworksafe]

Why would WWE even want the TNA library other than as a way to avoid having to sell who Bobby Roode, Samoa Joe and AJ Styles are (none of which seems to matter at all?).



Are we sure its not literal tape?

It probably is actual tape, but that's not unusual for any TV production

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

The Lapsed Fan for Over the Edge is proving to be too much. When they start going through the PPV it's just WAY too much. The damn JJ / Blackman match took what felt like 30 minutes on its own because of all the Tennessee Lee stuff.

Going through PROGRESS is so much fun right now, up to chapter 12 and Jimmy Havoc's storyline is so simple yet so great. And the London Riots are the best part of the shows, real heat magnets.

Hoping to jump into some of this soonish. How long is each chapter/story taking you?

 

[Uno Venova]

The best thing about Havoc's storyline was that his arguments had an element of truth to them, it was just the way he went about achieving his aims that made him a cunt - wrestling needs more nuanced storytelling like that. A heel who I can understand his motivation, but can't agree with his actions.

Right, you almost feel sorry for him at the beginning to be thrown back into a match type he badly wants to get away from, but he's goes about everything the worst way, much better than a heel who wants to celebrate his marriage and defend his wife.

The Lapsed Fan for Over the Edge is proving to be too much. When they start going through the PPV it's just WAY too much. The damn JJ / Blackman match took what felt like 30 minutes on its own because of all the Tennessee Lee stuff.

Hoping to jump into some of this soonish. How long is each chapter/story taking you?

Each is about two hours but I skipped all of the death matches in the beginning, I can't stand those.

And I'm using this guide to watch all of the promos in between chapters.

http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=47&sid=a7ed0f6737b42ae955e6cc939b4b801f