Shiny Llama
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Because it's a visor, so my eyes would be close to the screen I think I should be OK. I can't read my PC monitor without glasses.
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Oculus Rift Kickstarter [Ended, $2.4 million funded]
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Because it's a visor, so my eyes would be close to the screen I think I should be OK. I can't read my PC monitor without glasses.
plagiarize
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I <3 iWaggle 3D videos. watching now.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Love the video, great job as always.
I have to admit I got worried about two things: You getting motion sick so quickly (I know you don't get that easily) and screens looking too blurry without glasses. What lens correction do you wear? A guy from the office who's following Rift development very closely was telling me that the consumer version will have swappable or adjustable diopter lenses, so that's great news.
That's not too surprising. Second situation you describe is as if you were sitting really close to a TV screen, moving around with a gamepad. That's not too bad of a feeling.
I have to admit I got worried about two things: You getting motion sick so quickly (I know you don't get that easily) and screens looking too blurry without glasses. What lens correction do you wear? A guy from the office who's following Rift development very closely was telling me that the consumer version will have swappable or adjustable diopter lenses, so that's great news.
not_so_special
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im interested in this,i have the sony hzm and i love that gadget,but is not very confortable i hope this thing addressed that problem
plagiarize
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in Carmack's keynote he called out swaying as the thing that made him motion sick and warned anyone who wanted to try it to wait until the end of their demo time! i guess TTP didn't hear that advice
generally though you figure out what makes you feel weird and just stop doing it. at some point they'll get full head position tracking going along with rotational tracking into this and motion sickness will be a thing of the past, but for now, just don't sway, or play sitting down if even standing bothers you.
it was really cool watching TTP explain what he was seeing and gesturing to things in the virtual world, like pretending to cradle the gun and so on.
great video TTP. i've seen a bunch of videos of people trying out the unit and this one offered something different.
I tried the Oculus Rift myself at Gamescom. What an awesome piece of kit. And it's just a prototype!
My "eyes-on" vid:
I liked how you talked with the AI briefly when you waited for the chair.
You turned to him and said "Wait a second."If that is not "deeply fundamentally cool", nothing is.
and the way he's pointing into space but in his mind he's pointing in the real world. Very cool.
Aiming with your head doesn't sound ideal though - can't you also use a mouse or right stick to control the gun and have your head disconnected? Most of the time you'd probably track the two together but not always.
Hawken will get official Rift support!
Awesome!
An in-cockpit mech game such as this seems perfect for the Rift.
Awesome!
An in-cockpit mech game such as this seems perfect for the Rift.
Wow! They just sold Hawken to me...
Hawken is F2P!
Somehow I forgot to check this thread, so sorry for the late replies!
I'm have about -2 per eye, plus some astigmatism.
Yes, the consumer version will address that. How, it's not decided.
Head movement basically "overlaps" right stick tilting as far as controls go. You can't "detach" the view from the gun. Not in the version of Doom III that I tried at least.
LOL yeah. It felt so natural to turn the head and "talk" to the bot. Come to think of it, voice recognition/commands would fit the VR experience quite well. It's so believable you kinda expect to be heard.
Love you.
BTW, Hawken news is awesome. If this spreads among PC people as quickly as I expect, consoles will become almost irrelevant to me (if they don't adapt quickly).
I'm have about -2 per eye, plus some astigmatism.
Yes, the consumer version will address that. How, it's not decided.
Head movement basically "overlaps" right stick tilting as far as controls go. You can't "detach" the view from the gun. Not in the version of Doom III that I tried at least.
I liked how you talked with the AI briefly when you waited for the chair.
If that is not "deeply fundamentally cool", nothing is.
LOL yeah. It felt so natural to turn the head and "talk" to the bot. Come to think of it, voice recognition/commands would fit the VR experience quite well. It's so believable you kinda expect to be heard.
Love you.
BTW, Hawken news is awesome. If this spreads among PC people as quickly as I expect, consoles will become almost irrelevant to me (if they don't adapt quickly).
plagiarize
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I wouldn't touch Hawken if it wasn't free to play and supporting the rift. As it is, I WILL touch Hawken and I will touch it as inappropriately as it wants to be touched.
Is Oculus Rift support in Dark Souls going to be your next project Durante?
Haint
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Even beyond the head tracking, I don't think Sony or MS would ever certify a game with a SBS distort-o-vision toggle sitting in the options menu. They will have to either make Oculus an official partner or rip off the idea and create their own Xbox or Playstation branded HMD.
Most of you have probably seen tomorrow (8/28) at 10am PST Palmer's doing an Ask Anything on Reddit. I wish we could get him to make a ballpark guesstimate on which half of 2013 it's looking like they may be able to release the consumer version.
Honestly, I would assume second half. I get the impression the screen they've targeted is that Toshiba (mentioned it previously in this thread). That thing is still a prototype. I doubt they'd give up on that unless Toshiba flat out canceled it. They seemed really excited about how perfect it would be.
Hawken in Virtual Reality:
Everyone with a Rift will be able to pilot their Hawken mech in completely immersive, stereo 3D virtual reality.
An entirely new way to play Hawken which includes updates to gameplay, input, the cockpit, and the heads-up-display.
Hawken will feature an exclusive Oculus VR cockpit that lets the player look around inside the mech, independant of the mechs direction, in full stereoscopic 3D.
Hawken is free-to-play, which means that anyone with a Rift can try Hawken in virtual reality on 12.12.12.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game/posts
http://vimeo.com/48289061
Everyone with a Rift will be able to pilot their Hawken mech in completely immersive, stereo 3D virtual reality.
An entirely new way to play Hawken which includes updates to gameplay, input, the cockpit, and the heads-up-display.
Hawken will feature an exclusive Oculus VR cockpit that lets the player look around inside the mech, independant of the mechs direction, in full stereoscopic 3D.
Hawken is free-to-play, which means that anyone with a Rift can try Hawken in virtual reality on 12.12.12.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1523379957/oculus-rift-step-into-the-game/posts
http://vimeo.com/48289061
ALL OVER MY FACE.
fierrotlepou
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Holy shit.
YES! OH YES!
Ok Mechwarrior, you're out as my go to mech game, unless I see some VR support from you too.
exmachina64
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Consumer version, here I come!
Fatal Futanari
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I was about to cancel my pledge and wait for the consumer version....but now that Hawken is compatible...damn lol
Haint
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So Palmer mentioned in the Reddit QA that the consumer version is "a ways away, not sure exactly how long, but 1+ year is not out of the question", later adding "done when it's done". No doubt everything is still way up in the air, but it sounds like a pretty solid bet that if you want to experience this any time soon, you probably want to get in on the Kickstarter (which ends in 3 days). It sounds like the primary hold up is going to be waiting for significantly improved displays--he mentioned at least double the Dev kit (so 2560x1600) and possibly quadruple (probably referring to 4k e.g. 3840x2160--not literally 4x1280x800)
zephervack
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You are not helping with the temptation....
Good thing my credit card got stolen on Saturday and now I dont have a Visa for 10 days.
When he says double/quadrupe, I would definitely assume he's talking total pixel count, not double in both width and height. 4K resolution in such a small display isn't terribly reasonable for the near future.
Double = 2x1280x800 ~ 1920*1080 or 1920*1200
Quadruple = 4x1280x800 ~ 2560*1440 or 2560*1600
I'll be pleasantly surprised if anyone gets a Rift in December.
Don't get me wrong, I am hoping that it will be on time.
Haint
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Yea you're probably right, a ~6" 4k screen is probably much further out than a year or two. Being Toshiba showed off that 6" 2560x1600 display a year ago and hasn't said or done anything else since (at least AFAIK), it'd probably be a long while before a 4k screen could realistically materialize. I don't think a prototype unveil is too far out of the question, though I don't know what the practical application would be to create such a thing (aside from the Rift). That kind of resolution seems largely unnecessary for a phone or tablet. I guess I could see them pushing it to maintain parity with 4K TV's, should they ever become a thing.
Toshiba (in partnership with Sharp) has been demoing a 6.1 inch 2560*1600 panel. It sounds like this is their dream scenario (6.1 even allows the horizontal and vertical FOV's to be identical).
Unfortunately, until Toshiba has a practical reason to bring it into production, it'll probably remain a pipe dream. This is why I said earlier I can't see it being 1st half of 2013. If there's any chance this thing is coming to market, I think they'll wait it out. And they'll only settle for something less when it's clear they have to move on.
Do we have any ETA on the consumer version?
I still want to get one of these, but money is kind of tight right now and if the consumer version isn't too delayed I'd rather get that instead.
But... Hawken.
Until the higher res cellphone/tablet (I guess 6" is somewhere in between) screens come out, I doubt we'll see the consumer version. I'd say Christmas next year is probably the earliest timeframe. That's assuming that the vendor is going to want to sell Oculus these bleeding edge panels for a price that makes an HMD worthwhile. Otherwise, I guess there are probably 1080p panels out there that he could use in a shorter time frame.
I'm with you though...I'm super hyped for Hawken, and I may pick up the dev model based on that. I kind of fear that the retail model is going to be like... $500+, and that I won't want to spend the money at the time.
He has said he doesn't want to do a bunch of models. So they wanna make it right from the get-go. He's also mentioned he wants it to be under 1000 dollars. So you can pretty much count on it being 500+. I don't think he's looking to have insane margins, but if the tech is available at an even reasonable prices, he wants to load up as much as he can.
Palmer has repeatedly stated that they have everything in place to make thousands of Rifts if required.
GreggTheGrimReaper
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Another interview with Palmer Luckey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncKJflfXl9w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncKJflfXl9w
Once it's the commercial product, I think standard margins are probably going to be in play. That's the point where making money is something that pretty much has to happen.
That's why the developer model seems like a good deal; Who sells you VR kit (or pretty much any piece of electronics) near cost these days?
My body is ready.
I'm just saying I doubt he's pulling a Nintendo here. It may go as high as 1000, but if it does, it's because they've crammed in some cutting edge tech.
Haha... man this guy is a natural. Loved his response to which game he'd like see in VR.
"It'd be a cross between Fallout 3... and Pokemon yellow."
Another game gets Rift support
Miner Wars 2081 [VIDEO]
http://www.minerwars.com/ForumTopic.aspx?id=2656
Miner Wars 2081 [VIDEO]
http://www.minerwars.com/ForumTopic.aspx?id=2656
Umming and ahhing over whether to go for this. On the one hand, it sounds very impressive indeed, and seems to be a nice setup for the home. On the other, though, it also sounds like the consumer version will be significantly superior, although it's not clear how the consumer version would be *priced*.
you'll be waiting about a year for the consumer version. If you're into tech and salivating at the idea of VR, and aren't too scared by the beta nature of the hardware or the risk of not having too many games support it, then why not jump in?
you'll more than likely get your few hundred dollars worth out of it during that 12 months, and if the consumer version looks fantastic, get that too.
My only worry is the resolution of the display. We've had limited impressions from the press about this, and unfortunately no good way to represent it on a video.
edit: damn, its about £200 including international shipping. Don't have a great PC to drive it though but so so tempting. I bought a bloody HMZ-T1 and sat around like an idiot with cycle helmets on my head trying to make it comfortable, this should be no problem
There is a video that kinda gives you an idea about this.
Check this out: http://youtu.be/mVNOMCMj1JY?hd=1&t=3m10s
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