ecnal said:
it's not a response to one single individual. my games are more egregious because i've coalesced multiple people's game abuses into a single stream lined game plan. nothing is exaggerated or exacerbated. all of the 'plays' i run on the court are literally hand lifted from other people's games--move for move, animation for animation. i will concede that some of the animation abuses were directly lifted from the game-track replays from my game with cerrius.
also, since you mentioned it, you can thank your cousin for the trailing pf dunk. he did it to me literally every time down the court with dwight howard--it has also been mentioned by a number of other people in this thread (notably airbrian, who quit the game because of it). one of his replays on the league site shows it happening on a nearly perfect level.
and while you may not think cerrius' "move sets" are exploits, i absolutely do believe they drastically improve shooting percentages, which, depending on how you look at it, is basically abusing the game logic. look at the stats i've put up with players since i changed my style of play. i went from shooting ~40% with mayo/manu to shooting well over 50% with both of them. there's a direct correlation between some of these moves and shooting percentages, period.
believe me, i would prefer to actually feel like i'm calling plays and picking apart defenses based on perceived weaknesses. it's a more enjoyable experience and it's a better overall experience for both players. it's fun to go into games looking at matchups and changing your lineups based on other teams and what not. basically, it's fun to play this game on a sim level. however, if i'm not getting the same respect from other players in this league, and nothing is done about it, an environment is created in which nobody has incentive to play sim.
and i do apologize for that game (and to everyone else in the last ~8 games), i was going to use my normal game plan versus you because you've proven to be a trustworthy opponent, but i also didn't want to tamper with any of the results i was getting. picking and choosing games where abuses supposedly happened is far less believable than showing, literally, two weeks worth of games where my shooting % has drastically gone up.
Lol, yep my nephew does do that. He is probably the king of doing that. Although I had thought he toned it down if not eliminated it completely.
I don't have a problem with that exploit if my defender is actually behind the play. By all means punish me for having a slow big man. But when this happens off of a full court dead ball inbounds pass and my D is set and its pretty much like an instant fast break, then there's just no reason for me to even be on the floor.
Despite you still purposefully cheesing, there were some damn good moments in that game, and I still love playing against you when you actually play your game. For example you playing cat and mouse with Aldridge when I backed way up off you and forced J Smith to shoot. He missed a few, hit one, and then on the next one I bit and jumped for the block and you jammed it in it.
I also have no problem with you using the back to the basket jumpers with Mayo over little Stevie Blake. I was just too reluctant to put on a larger guard to defend Mayo. You abuse mismatches, that's sim basketball.
I just have a problem with you becoming Frankenstein's monster on us and taking every abuse you've weathered and combining it into a playstyle that you yourself do not condone or enjoy.
I just don't see how we can better deal with this problem that you want to fix. I feel that when playoffs come, and it becomes a 7 game series situation, people that have depended on exploits won't be able to in order to progress.
Heck even within one game, sometimes the well runs dry when people continually go to certain exploits.
I really think what pheeniks says is correct. Even you yourself were going to use J. Smith as a "retaliatory" player". If people are played cheap against, they're going to come back down the court and do the same thing.
On the other hand, I think if someone plays a good game of basketball, the opposing player is going to be more likely to return the favor.
