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Official 2008 "I Need A New PC" Thread
- Thread starter Kosma
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The E8400 was the CPU I wanted, but it's out of stock at most places, and the places that have them are charging $350+ for it. The E8200 is the next best thing, I think, but even that's in shortage. At this point, I might have to settle for the E6750 if I want to get a new computer anytime soon.oo Kosma oo said:
Should I get something cheaper? Will the NSK6580 do?oo Kosma oo said:Also you casing is pretty damn expensive
Thanks.oo Kosma oo said:
Copycat_Wannabe
Member
Tomshardware is having a System builder marathon.
Yesterday they posted their low cost system
CPU AMD Quad Core Phenom 9500 $190.00
CPU Cooler Cooler master HyperTX 2 $25.00
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H $100.00
RAM Wintec Ampo DDR2 PC2-6400 - 2 GB $43.00
Graphics HIS Radeon 3870 ICEQ Turbo $230.00
Hard Drive Western Digital Caviar 500 GB $95.00
Sound Integrated high Definition Audio $0.00
Case NZXT Apollo $70.00
Power NZXT PP600W $70.00
DVD-RW Sony Optiarc DVD-RW $14.00
Total Price $837
And Today is the mid cost system
CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 $540
CPU Cooler Cooler master HyperTX 2 $25
Motherboard Asus P5N-T Deluxe $250
RAM Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 PC2-6400 - 4GB $128
Graphics EVGA GeForce 8800GTX, 768MB $415
Hard Drive 1x Western Digital Raptor 150GB $170
1x Western Digital Caviar 500GB $95
Sound Integrated SoundMax High-Definition Audio $0
Case Antec Nine Hundred $120
Power PC Power & Cooling Silencer S75Q 750W $160
DVD-RW 2x Sony Optiarc DVD-RW $28
Total Price $1,931
# Day 3: The High-Cost PC - To Be Published on Wednesday
# Day 4: All Three PCs Overclocked - To Be Published on Thursday
# Day 5: Summary: The Price-Performance Winner - To Be Published on Friday
Yesterday they posted their low cost system
CPU AMD Quad Core Phenom 9500 $190.00
CPU Cooler Cooler master HyperTX 2 $25.00
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H $100.00
RAM Wintec Ampo DDR2 PC2-6400 - 2 GB $43.00
Graphics HIS Radeon 3870 ICEQ Turbo $230.00
Hard Drive Western Digital Caviar 500 GB $95.00
Sound Integrated high Definition Audio $0.00
Case NZXT Apollo $70.00
Power NZXT PP600W $70.00
DVD-RW Sony Optiarc DVD-RW $14.00
Total Price $837
And Today is the mid cost system
CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 $540
CPU Cooler Cooler master HyperTX 2 $25
Motherboard Asus P5N-T Deluxe $250
RAM Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800 PC2-6400 - 4GB $128
Graphics EVGA GeForce 8800GTX, 768MB $415
Hard Drive 1x Western Digital Raptor 150GB $170
1x Western Digital Caviar 500GB $95
Sound Integrated SoundMax High-Definition Audio $0
Case Antec Nine Hundred $120
Power PC Power & Cooling Silencer S75Q 750W $160
DVD-RW 2x Sony Optiarc DVD-RW $28
Total Price $1,931
# Day 3: The High-Cost PC - To Be Published on Wednesday
# Day 4: All Three PCs Overclocked - To Be Published on Thursday
# Day 5: Summary: The Price-Performance Winner - To Be Published on Friday
bee said:
Especially considering that even for a high end, you're better off with one of the new Core 2 Duos for half the price.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/14225/6
Outdated, but still much better.
I've been using a 512MB X1900XT for about a year and a half now and I'm thinking about upgrading to a 512MB 9600GT. I haven't been able to find any 9600GT reviews that I can compare to those of the X1900XT, so I'm not sure if this is actually a good decision.
Basically, is the 9600GT faster/better than the X1900XT?
Basically, is the 9600GT faster/better than the X1900XT?
mr stroke
Member
mr stroke
Member
Mr. Hyde said:
Nice build..
I just got almost the same(3870x2 vs 8800) PC for Maingear about a week ago and couldn't be happier. The build and wiring is about the best I have ever seen, and cost wise they are pretty close to building your own.
Got a Prelude w/
AMD 6400+
4 gigs ram
3870x2
for 1546$
and for the price its a beast, currently ripping through everything(save Crysis) at 1920x1200 maxed.
have fun
BigBlackGamer
Member
Have a quick question, I can get a good deal on a Apple Cinema 30". Will my 8800GTS work with the display?
Amd Introduces Triplecores and some other new Quads. Wonder how they will stack up. The powerconsumption seems pretty ok, the cache on the other hand still seems rather meh.
I'm not exactly sure how powerful a PC should be to properly stream HD stuff. Maybe anyone else here?
Spruchy said:
I'm not exactly sure how powerful a PC should be to properly stream HD stuff. Maybe anyone else here?
Minsc
Gold Member
CoreAVC, will help get the playback requirements down, and it's the best decoder on the market.
Back to the original question, from here, which I think is pretty accurate, (to summarize it) says dual core cpu 3600+ or DXVA2 capable decoder and gfx card. Dual core is essential for 1080p. The newer gfx cards (ATI 2400/2600 and Nvidia 8500/8600 and beyond) help, but don't work properly with x264 encodes though.
Back to the original question, from here, which I think is pretty accurate, (to summarize it) says dual core cpu 3600+ or DXVA2 capable decoder and gfx card. Dual core is essential for 1080p. The newer gfx cards (ATI 2400/2600 and Nvidia 8500/8600 and beyond) help, but don't work properly with x264 encodes though.
mr stroke said:Nice build..
I just got almost the same(3870x2 vs 8800) PC for Maingear about a week ago and couldn't be happier. The build and wiring is about the best I have ever seen, and cost wise they are pretty close to building your own.
Got a Prelude w/
AMD 6400+
4 gigs ram
3870x2
for 1546$
and for the price its a beast, currently ripping through everything(save Crysis) at 1920x1200 maxed.
have fun
Awesome! The cost was supposed to be 1912 and not 1600. Somehow their base price bugged on the F131 and put it three hundred dollars cheaper than it was supposed to be.. So I couldn't resist holding off on a new pc. Mine is six years old, so it doesn't hurt much spending that price. The 8800GT they use is the G92/Pci 2.0 version, which is nicer than the old 8800's. It's the ssc edition. I am also going to throw in 2 more gigs of ram when I get it.
Glad to hear positive comments about Maingear.
OEM E8400s look like they are in stock currently at Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115046
OEM means no heatsink/fan so you will need to buy an aftermarket one, but most people do anyway especially if overclocking
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115046
OEM means no heatsink/fan so you will need to buy an aftermarket one, but most people do anyway especially if overclocking
Need some video card advice...
currently kicking a 7950gts and it is sort of bottlenecking my quad + 4gigs memory machine.
I just came into some money (yay tax refund) and am curious which route to take. The 9800gt has been said to be repackaged 8800gt with better SLi support (in which i'm not very interested in).
My choices seem to be: 8800 gt/gts oc/gtx, 9800 gt/gtx/gx2
Which is the best cost to performance ratio (for a single card setup)? My current plan is to grab an 8800 gts oc when the 9800gt comes out but I'm pretty unsure.
currently kicking a 7950gts and it is sort of bottlenecking my quad + 4gigs memory machine.
I just came into some money (yay tax refund) and am curious which route to take. The 9800gt has been said to be repackaged 8800gt with better SLi support (in which i'm not very interested in).
My choices seem to be: 8800 gt/gts oc/gtx, 9800 gt/gtx/gx2
Which is the best cost to performance ratio (for a single card setup)? My current plan is to grab an 8800 gts oc when the 9800gt comes out but I'm pretty unsure.
Just putted together my system a couple days ago, thought I'd share it in this thread.
E8400 + Tuniq Tower @ Stock for now
GA-P35-DS3L
eVGA 8800GT + Accelero S1 /w Scythe 120mm fan
A Data 2x2gb PC6400
WD Raptor 74gb
Seagate 320gb x 2
Audigy 2 ZS (from old rig)
Corsair 520HX
All sitting in a Lian Li PC-A05B case.
E8400 + Tuniq Tower @ Stock for now
GA-P35-DS3L
eVGA 8800GT + Accelero S1 /w Scythe 120mm fan
A Data 2x2gb PC6400
WD Raptor 74gb
Seagate 320gb x 2
Audigy 2 ZS (from old rig)
Corsair 520HX
All sitting in a Lian Li PC-A05B case.
mr stroke
Member
Proc said:
all the money=9800gx2
some money=3870x2
budget=8800gt or 9600gt
I went with the 3870x2 because its fastest for the money and will let you play everything out there maxed at high res(even Crysis on high if your ok w/ 20-25 fps)
if you don't want to spend 400$ then I would go with the 9600 or 8800gt as there both very solid and should play just about anything around for the next year very well.
mr stroke
Member
aznpxdd said:Just putted together my system a couple days ago, thought I'd share it in this thread.
E8400 + Tuniq Tower @ Stock for now
GA-P35-DS3L
eVGA 8800GT + Accelero S1 /w Scythe 120mm fan
A Data 2x2gb PC6400
WD Raptor 74gb
Seagate 320gb x 2
Audigy 2 ZS (from old rig)
Corsair 520HX
All sitting in a Lian Li PC-A05B case.
nice wiring job.....very clean
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I am madly excited about the spider platform, and so I really want to get a Phenom 9850. Is there a reason why I shouldnt?
Hardforum has a nice sticky on putting together a PC. Can the OP be updated please?
EVGA -8800GTS-320 -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...FC-C8Junction-_-Video+Cards-_-EVGA-_-14130082
$115 for a pretty awesome card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...FC-C8Junction-_-Video+Cards-_-EVGA-_-14130082
$115 for a pretty awesome card.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Supposedly once you pair all the ideal components, you get a performance increase (like a voltron), also its extremely cheap for a decent setup.zoku88 said:
NCIX had it in one of their sales not too long ago.SRG01 said:Where did you buy your 9600GT? I can't find it anywhere for $130.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=28428&promoid=1020
Used to be 179 - $50 MIR.
You should keep looking around for deals. They've been going for around 140-150 now.
I've seen some 8800GT's for ~180 and even 8800GTS 512 for ~215.
TheGreatDave
Banned
My student loan comes through next week, and I've decided to get a good PC rather than a PS3. But I really don't want to build one myself, I just want the reliability of a warrenty and not have to to worry abou compatability, etc. So what's the best store in the UK for me to go to, online or offline? I basically need an NVIDIA 8 series card and a decent processor, I can probably only go to £500-600 though. I have no need for a monitor though...
Stabby McSter
Member
Hi guys.
So I was having lunch with my mother and she said she has a Core 2 Extreme QX9650 she got for free. Apparently I can have it.
...
What do I throw into that setup?
So I was having lunch with my mother and she said she has a Core 2 Extreme QX9650 she got for free. Apparently I can have it.
...
What do I throw into that setup?
GauntletFan
Banned
Hi guys, I made a thread about this but got few responses:
Can someone give me the best spec or link to a PC which will play Crysis at the best settings possible? I fancy buying such a setup today but don't want to get ripped off with something not up to the task
Can someone give me the best spec or link to a PC which will play Crysis at the best settings possible? I fancy buying such a setup today but don't want to get ripped off with something not up to the task
I have a bad feeling about this, but here it goes:
The ol' Duron 1600 (I know, I know) blew up and I had to make an unexpected upgrade (as usual) under a tight budget. Now I'm riding an AMD X2 4000+, 2GBs of 667 RAM (of the cheap variety and single channel because I couldn't match the darn sticks).
I figured out I could risk playing (post-2004) PC games after so many years stuck with an unusable rig, but I need a videocard (the onboard X1200 is worthless for anything beyond Source forced to DX81). Since I'm still on a budget (and will remain like that for a long time), don't plan gaming at more than 1024x768 and don't care about Crysis in particular, I've narrowed down my options to two: the 8600GT and the HD3650, which cost roughly the same around where I live.
At first I fell for the FUD spewed by both PC and console camps at GAF and was wary of both cards, but watching youtube videos of them in action revealed nice framerates and pretty graphics, not the choppy mess GAF made me expect. I even found some videos of a 8600GT on same CPU as mine, and they look very nice (even the Crysis ones looks acceptable).
So, the 8600GT or the HD3650, what do you think?
The ol' Duron 1600 (I know, I know) blew up and I had to make an unexpected upgrade (as usual) under a tight budget. Now I'm riding an AMD X2 4000+, 2GBs of 667 RAM (of the cheap variety and single channel because I couldn't match the darn sticks).
I figured out I could risk playing (post-2004) PC games after so many years stuck with an unusable rig, but I need a videocard (the onboard X1200 is worthless for anything beyond Source forced to DX81). Since I'm still on a budget (and will remain like that for a long time), don't plan gaming at more than 1024x768 and don't care about Crysis in particular, I've narrowed down my options to two: the 8600GT and the HD3650, which cost roughly the same around where I live.
At first I fell for the FUD spewed by both PC and console camps at GAF and was wary of both cards, but watching youtube videos of them in action revealed nice framerates and pretty graphics, not the choppy mess GAF made me expect. I even found some videos of a 8600GT on same CPU as mine, and they look very nice (even the Crysis ones looks acceptable).
So, the 8600GT or the HD3650, what do you think?
GauntletFan
Banned
SRG01 said:
I'm looking to spend around $2000. I need a machine that I can also use for 3D work at home and some music stuff.
By 'best settings possible' in Crysis, I'm talking about running the game under dx10 with maximum graphical settings at a smooth framerate.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/25/system_builder_marathon/GauntletFan said:
Check that.
edit for bolded: only if you disable AA and its at a 1600x1050 or less. Still it will look better than whatever any console has to offer.
GauntletFan said:
Given your circumstances,
The Q9450, a 9800GX2, 8gb of DDR2 PC8500 ram, 790i motherboard and 700-1000+ PSU. You can easily get for less than $2000 if you're building. It'll run DX10 Crysis at 1080p averaging 30-40 high/very high and let you mess around with all your programs and multitasking.
TheGreatDave
Banned
So I've just ordered a PC from Arbico, a UK builder. They seem to have good press. Does this look OK for running TF2 at 16:10 res with a decentframe rate? Cos that's really all I want...
Code:
PC Case: Coolermaster ELITE 330 Case - included in price
Power Supply: 500W standard PSU
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 CPU
Heatsink & CPU Fan: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Heatsink & Fan
Motherboard: ECS G33T-M2 Motherboard (no onboard graphics)
DDR2 Memory: 2GB (1 x 2GB) Kingston 667Mhz DDR2
PCI-E Graphics: 1GB (1024MB) nVidia Geforce 8600GT PCI Express Graphics Card