The Frankman
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WOW. So I again repeat: quit it while some of us are taking you seriously.lherre said:
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Official 2008 Olympics Thread - 1936, the Remix
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FrenchMovieTheme
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:lol
well if we're going to play that game, lets go back and take a look at all of the bogus foul calls, the traveling that wasn't called on spain (and not the kind you are talking about), and the pushes in the back that weren't called on spain but were called on the U.S.
i think after we go through all of those, things will come out even and we will still come to the conclusion that US are the champs
well if we're going to play that game, lets go back and take a look at all of the bogus foul calls, the traveling that wasn't called on spain (and not the kind you are talking about), and the pushes in the back that weren't called on spain but were called on the U.S.
i think after we go through all of those, things will come out even and we will still come to the conclusion that US are the champs
The Frankman
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Oh GAWD man :lol :lol :lolDY_nasty said:
Well ridiculous whining aside. I have to give props to the Spanish for hanging tough. Clearly didn't show all their heart and talent in that 37 point drubbing but they did bring it tonight. Even if they aren't all-stars they played like it. Fernandez was simply unconscious and as porous as the US interior defense was, you still can't ignore the fact the Spain's offense was quick, sharp, and confident.
Bball is not easy to ref, but outside of the calls, good game. Good night.
Bball is not easy to ref, but outside of the calls, good game. Good night.
Future PhaZe
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I lost a lot of respect for Dwight in this tournament. Michael Redd as well. I gained respect for Bosh and a ton of respect for Wade. Tayshaun played hard as well. Boozer lost respect points as well.
Man fuck the Blazers next year with that Fernandez kid. I can see the clutch threes already. They are going to be ridiculous.
Much props to Spain especially my boy Pau. And LOL @ people acting like Memphis didn't get anything in Marc Gasol. More like Memphis had better get a big contract ready for his extension because he's going to be worth some cash.
Man fuck the Blazers next year with that Fernandez kid. I can see the clutch threes already. They are going to be ridiculous.
Much props to Spain especially my boy Pau. And LOL @ people acting like Memphis didn't get anything in Marc Gasol. More like Memphis had better get a big contract ready for his extension because he's going to be worth some cash.
scorcho said:
Okay... I thought this was a debate with a bit of misunderstanding here or there, but this is nothing more than an advanced tasting of some of the finest bitter tears imported from overseas. Made from delicious sour grapes in the form of a most delectable whine. Thank you my good sir, I would usually have to wait until the NFL Playoffs to indulge myself in such a manner.
perfectchaos007
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Hungary is up by 2 goals right now in waterpolo. c'mon USA!
seattle6418
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I wanted a dunk-fest, ended up with a great game. That's ok, gold is what matters.
Spain played better than anyone could imagine. USA's defense was atrocious.
D-Wade MVP, Kobe clutch as always. I hope they keep playing with the same passion for the next olympics and other competitions.
Spain played better than anyone could imagine. USA's defense was atrocious.
D-Wade MVP, Kobe clutch as always. I hope they keep playing with the same passion for the next olympics and other competitions.
Starchasing
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Ok will explain it to you guys.
There is a rule about how you are allowed to start dribbling. NBA has one rule , FIBA has another. Both rules are different.
Basketball olympics are played by FIBA rules.
Most of you guys probably dont watch FIBA games.
People who watch FIBA games could tell that Team USA violated the rule about every other time.
Most of you people didnt see that because all you see is american ball.
Why is this important? Because NBA rules gives a lot of advantge to the guy starting the dribble.
Again, im talking about travelling at the start of the dribble
there are no bitter tears on my side. I love basketabll and i watched one of the most intense games ever... one of the best games period.
The thing about travelling is just to illustrate you non-fiba fans
There is a rule about how you are allowed to start dribbling. NBA has one rule , FIBA has another. Both rules are different.
Basketball olympics are played by FIBA rules.
Most of you guys probably dont watch FIBA games.
People who watch FIBA games could tell that Team USA violated the rule about every other time.
Most of you people didnt see that because all you see is american ball.
Why is this important? Because NBA rules gives a lot of advantge to the guy starting the dribble.
Again, im talking about travelling at the start of the dribble
there are no bitter tears on my side. I love basketabll and i watched one of the most intense games ever... one of the best games period.
The thing about travelling is just to illustrate you non-fiba fans
OpinionatedCyborg
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Explain the rule, then. It's not very complicated. What about the so-called FIBA rule is different than the NBA rule?Starchasing said:
Are you saying the American players lifted their pivot feet before the ball touched the ground on drives? If that's what you're saying then just say it. You're being incredible vague and it makes you come off as stupid/bitter.
Cornballer
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US has run out of gas and played a crappy 4th quarter. It's also Hungary and they have 1/3 of the gold medals ever in water polo. The US was picked to finish 5th-8th, and they've had a great run to make it here. They knocked off 4 teams that were favored to beat them - it's too bad they didn't have one more upset in them.Kittonwy said:Oh shit getting murdered by Hungry in water polo.
Starchasing said:
We all know what traveling is. We also know what whining about the refs is. The game was not dictated by the officiating in any way, nor was any other game for that matter. Check the OP and please stop with the over the top whining. The serbs weren't even this pissed about the hundredth of a second deal with Phelps. We all saw a good game (even though I hate seeing USA get sliced apart and beasted on the boards)and without a doubt the best team won, isn't that enough?
Knux-Future
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Explain to Us this rule......you keep saying that there is this mystical rule taht was ignored but never explain it.
Also If you admit that the US diddn't cheat or won unfairly then WTF are you complaining for?
Also If you admit that the US diddn't cheat or won unfairly then WTF are you complaining for?
Cornballer
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:lolGahiggidy said:
ryutaro's mama
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Zep said:
Thank you BFF.
FUCK YOU CHRIS SHERIDAN.
Starchasing said:
Don't talk to us like we're slow. We understand what the FIBA rule is...Point being, it has rarely been called the whole tournament.. So to bring it up and make it as your main excuse just screams bitter as shit. Just say GG USA Team and take the loss in stride.
The rest of us will go celebrate in our minds.
seattle6418 said:
I'm sure the majority of the team will be comprised of new players. Now that they'll got their gold and represented their country, Im guessing that a few of them wont want to put in the necessary time needed to get ready for this. I mean, look at Duncan and Garnett. Two great guys and very unselfish players, but they weren't willing to do it again
OpinionatedCyborg said:
Basically in the nba you can start the dribbling with "2" feets before put the ball in the floor (I don't know if the english is correct, sorry), in fiba rule only is permitted one. As you can see if you can "run" two instead one give you a big advantage over the defender because you can start running more easy.
Cornballer
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Best showing since 1984, iirc.mYm|17| said:
Me too. I'm still really proud of how they played this time around.Kittonwy said:Too bad because I wanted them to win.
perfectchaos007
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Two silvers in Waterpolo for the Men and Women of the USA. Not bad. But they are both failures in China because only Gold counts in their mind.
OpinionatedCyborg
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Are you saying the NBA rules allow for a player to take two steps before dribbling? Because if that's what you're saying, you're wrong. The NBA rules are pretty much identical to all bball rules on this: your pivot foot cannot touch the ground after it has been lifted off it. Period.lherre said:
Starchasing
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oh ok not so stealth edit
in the USA you can move your pivot foot before you start to bounce
in FIBA world you must bounce the ball first before moving the pivot foot
This has huge implications on the game... if you fellow americans dont get its ok
in the USA you can move your pivot foot before you start to bounce
in FIBA world you must bounce the ball first before moving the pivot foot
This has huge implications on the game... if you fellow americans dont get its ok
It's also called traveling on this side as well. I think you guys just don't know what you are talking about. The FIBA and NBA traveling rules are different, but what you are describing is traveling over here. Maybe you just have trouble recognizing a jab step?Starchasing said:
OpinionatedCyborg
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I'm not saying the rule is stupid, I'm saying you're stupid for not making it clear what your problem was with the officiating. Now you sound even more stupid because you're saying the NBA rules allow for a playing to take a couple steps before dribbling when they don't. Now, maybe the officiating let's players get away with breaking the rules in the NBA, but the NBA rules on traveling are basically identical to FIBA rules in this case. If you can explain otherwise, I would love to learn.Starchasing said:
It's not complicated. After establishing a pivot foot, that foot cannot touch the ground after it has been lifted into the air. It's that simple. That's the rule for the NBA and that's the rule for FIBA play.
edit: as I understand it, FIBA play is more similar to college ball, which is stricter in how you establish the pivot foot. Besides that, the rules are essentially the same, although perhaps referred more tightly depending on the league.
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