I'm not denying that Ackley could be a great player. But we're talking about a pretty small sample size to base Ackley's career on--remember Francoeur? The reality is, TJ surgery has a really high success rate, and your team somehow managed to fail to tank its way to arguably the best pitching prospect ever. I'm not complaining, mind, and I understand the mindset for an offense-starved team like the Mariners, but it was still a bizarre set of circumstances.
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I was using it as an example of why small sample sizes can be misleading. If you want a more recent example, Heyward was awesome his rookie year and this year he blows. I'd say that's a fairly comparable situation. I'm not saying he's guaranteed to have true talent worse than what he's illustrating now--far from it--just pointing out that the possibility is there, just as you are pointing out that Strasburg's arm could fall off at any moment.Macattk15 said:
Sharp said:
Likewise, I'm not saying Strasburg can't be a great player. Like you said, M's are hurting for offense and so far Ackley has really impressed us, with timely hits and very solid hitting stats. Of course, both players could turn out fantastic or mediocre, no one can say. It's just that right now, we're really happy with Ackley.
Don't think anyone's forgotten Strasburg's 14 K premier.
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Francoeur only had a 1.056 OPS through 36 games.
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I'm just saying ... everyone at the time of the draft was all like "oh wowwww you didn't get Strasburg and you guys got stuck with Ackley sucks to be you".
Its nice to see him living up to the expectations of him as a high average, line drive hitter. Yes its unfortunate we did not get Strasburg ... but its not a bad thing we have Ackley.
Watching his approach at the plate gives me supreme confidence he isn't a flash in the pan.
His 0-2 average is like over .400 ....
Fun facts about the 2011 Reds!
1. They now have 11 walk off loses. This leads the mlb. This constitutes 20% of all reds loses.
2. They are 16-25 in one run games. This is last in mlb. This constitutes 45% of all reds loses.
3. They have outscored their opponents by 39 runs, which is 4th in the NL, and 7th in all of baseball. Despite this fact, They have a 53-56 record, which is good for 9th in the NL, and tied for 16th in baseball.
4. They just lost to an AA team.
Most depressing season I've had following this team in all my years as a reds fan. Damn, I need a drink.
1. They now have 11 walk off loses. This leads the mlb. This constitutes 20% of all reds loses.
2. They are 16-25 in one run games. This is last in mlb. This constitutes 45% of all reds loses.
3. They have outscored their opponents by 39 runs, which is 4th in the NL, and 7th in all of baseball. Despite this fact, They have a 53-56 record, which is good for 9th in the NL, and tied for 16th in baseball.
4. They just lost to an AA team.
Most depressing season I've had following this team in all my years as a reds fan. Damn, I need a drink.
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dmag1223 said:
It's really that simple.
That and the pitching is pretty terrible.
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darkside31337 said:
Any team that attempts to keep Brian Wilson out of the national spotlight he so badly craves fully deserves my respect. Go D-Backs!
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JABEE said:
Enjoy the view while you can Atlanta, it's only going to get more and more distant!
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When It rain it poors . Rubby be done for a year..There goes some of the future.
e: Trumbo making this ROY close now....Plus Texas/Angels getting closer to the wild card than expected
e: Trumbo making this ROY close now....Plus Texas/Angels getting closer to the wild card than expected
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wartime1020 said:
Well, that's the story of Frenchy's career; go to a new ballclub, hit like Ted Williams for 2 months, hit like Jeff Francoeur for the rest of his tenure there. Rinse. Repeat.
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Doytch said:
Yeah, he's a douche.
clemenx said:
Christ, I'll happily settle for a reliever that can close out a freakin' game.
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He's hitless?Y2Kev said:
Offseason moves that comparison by WAR:
Nyjer Morgan: 2.4
Zack Greinke: 2.2
Jayson Werth: 1.3 (for lulz)
Alcides Escobar: 1.4
Jeremy Jeffress: 0.0 Demoted, whereabouts unknown
Lorenzo Cain: AAA
Jake Odoruzzi: Struggling in 6 AA starts since getting promoted
There was a tooooon of crowing from Royals fans (shocking they have all disappeared) about the Greinke trade. Even yesterday some chucklehead was tweeting about the "hack pitcher" the Brewers took for the "amazing gold glove shortstop."
People are dumb.
Nyjer Morgan: 2.4
Zack Greinke: 2.2
Jayson Werth: 1.3 (for lulz)
Alcides Escobar: 1.4
Jeremy Jeffress: 0.0 Demoted, whereabouts unknown
Lorenzo Cain: AAA
Jake Odoruzzi: Struggling in 6 AA starts since getting promoted
There was a tooooon of crowing from Royals fans (shocking they have all disappeared) about the Greinke trade. Even yesterday some chucklehead was tweeting about the "hack pitcher" the Brewers took for the "amazing gold glove shortstop."
People are dumb.
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How's Frankie doing?
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Windu said:
Why last year Phils were down right around 7 games at the start of August, and they still came back to win.
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Fuck that site, it has Kemp as the NL MVP by a landslide.Doytch said:
No, no for this column he just posted, you were arguing this last night!Macattk15 said:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/ackley-or-strasburg/
I agree the ROY will most likely come from seattle, unless Desmond Jennings hits .400 or something.
clemenx said:
Oh. I don't read much on Fangraphs ... did not see that article. I wasn't really arguing it last night ... I'm just really enjoying Ackley and was mentioning he was more than a consolation prize in the Strasburg sweepstakes (so far).
I shall now read this piece by Mr. Cameron.
The pitching isn't really terrible, (sans Arroyo and Volquez). They just play in a fucking bank vault in Cincinnati. Their batting average against is just .250, which is 5th in the NL. But they have given up 114 Home Runs, Which second to last behind Houston.darkside31337 said:
And yes Dusty Baker is a moron, but I don't really believe a manager makes that much of a difference.
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Windu said:
Really? Howard went on the DL on August 3rd last year, and was the 15th player to do so that year. Even when he came back he wasn't 100%. This is including a lot of time missed by Utley, Rollins, Polanco, Victorino, and Ruiz. They survived and even came back from a 7 game deficit based on the strength of their starting rotation, which the Braves also have. NO EXCUSES
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CC Sabathia since June 25:
8 GS, 62.2 IP (7.83 IP/GS), 7-1, 1.01 ERA, .189 BAA (.285 BABIP), .503 OPS, 0.91 WHIP, 11.2 K/9, 4.88 K/BB.
On pace for 24 wins and 245 strikeouts.
Haters... they gon' hate.
8 GS, 62.2 IP (7.83 IP/GS), 7-1, 1.01 ERA, .189 BAA (.285 BABIP), .503 OPS, 0.91 WHIP, 11.2 K/9, 4.88 K/BB.
On pace for 24 wins and 245 strikeouts.
Haters... they gon' hate.
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