Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]
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crowphoenix
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JSnake said:Anyone wanna gift me PSII?
...Please?
PM me your friend code. I've been feeling like doing something nice.
ToastyFrog
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Holy crap, what annoying timing on Phantasy Star II. Why couldn't they have done that a week ago? I swear they're trying to spite us.
I guess it's too much to hope they'll restore the original, reasonable, Japanese challenge level of NGIII.
I guess it's too much to hope they'll restore the original, reasonable, Japanese challenge level of NGIII.
Two game weeks still suck, but if they were all as nice as this one, it might be okay. Both games are quite good, and both are quite brutal in difficulty. I might buy PSII despite owning the Genesis version, the GBA PS Collection, and the PS2 Genesis collection. I just like playing RPGs on the Wii, what with the save state and all. Too bad there aren't more of them...
evilromero
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Or you could just check every Friday.Firestorm said:
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Firestorm said:
Well, Sonic 3 is on there. But Sonic and Knuckles isn't and we don't know how SEGA's going to handle the lock-on function.
Incidentally, while this is indeed a two game week. Ninja Gaiden III is a day one buy. I've gotten to the final boss of both games, but have yet to beat either one. Let's hope third time's the charm with Ninja Gaiden III.
As for Phantasy Star...I'll consider it.
EphemeralDream
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Hmm I might go and dl PS II since I have never tried the series. Yuzo Koushiro does the music IIRC?
Also now that Tecmo is "done" with Ninja Gaiden, what major titles do they have left to release. Don't even mention Fire 'n Ice as Solomon's Key is a masochist's game and just hearing that music makes me squirm.
EDIT: Just checked MobyGames for the credits and don't think I heard of the main PS composer. Any other noteworthy titles (since PS is known for good music)?
Also now that Tecmo is "done" with Ninja Gaiden, what major titles do they have left to release. Don't even mention Fire 'n Ice as Solomon's Key is a masochist's game and just hearing that music makes me squirm.
EDIT: Just checked MobyGames for the credits and don't think I heard of the main PS composer. Any other noteworthy titles (since PS is known for good music)?
Yeah, at the very least the quality of the individual titles in this new era of two games hasn't usually been in question. (Referring to opinion at large, not my personal thoughts.) Looking back since the beginning of this timeframe:RedBoot said:
King of Fighters '94 (good), Star Tropics (good)
Pac-Attack (okay), Riot Zone (bad)
1080 Snowboarding (good)
Adventures of Lolo 2 (good), Super Street Fighter II (good)
Columns III (???), Riot Wolf (bad)
Harvest Moon (good), Lords of Thunder (good)
Ninja Gaiden III (good), Phantasy Star II (good)
But I'll complain regardless--and openly.
Incidentally, since Hudson had planned Lords of Thunder and Psychosis for February and the latter hasn't shown up yet, we already know what one of the games for the week of the 25th will be, and (unfortunately) the only impressions I've read about it are negative. I suppose if the pattern holds up, the other game will be middling or questionable.
cartman414
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ToastyFrog said:
Oh great. First Castlevania 3, now Ninja Gaiden 3. So what was different between the two versions? Were continues originally unlimited?
EphemeralDream said:
According to Wikipedia (not counting Japan only games):
NES:
Bad News Baseball
Rygar
Star Force
Tecmo Baseball
Tecmo Cup Soccer Game
Tecmo NBA Basketball
Tecmo Super Bowl
Tecmo World Wrestling
SNES:
Ninja Gaiden Trilogy (unlikely since it's a compilation of the 3 NES Ninja Gaidens)
Secret of the Stars
Tecmo Super Baseball
Tecmo Super Bowl
Tecmo Super Bowl II: Special Edition
Tecmo Super Bowl 3
Tecmo Super NBA Basketball
Genesis:
Tecmo Super Baseball
Tecmo Super Bowl
Tecmo Super Bowl II: Special Edition
Tecmo Super Bowl 3
Tecmo Super Hockey
Tecmo Super NBA Basketball
Tecmo World Cup '92
Neo Geo:
Tecmo World Soccer '96
Master System:
Ninja Gaiden
Tecmo World Cup '92
Tecmo World Cup '93
EphemeralDream said:
All of the games in the series had their music done by members of Sega's in-house sound teams, so unless you've played a lot of Sega games, you probably haven't heard a lot of their music. They did a lot of great stuff, though.
Phantasy Star I and II were both done by Takuhiko Uwabo, who's also done music for a number of Advanced Daisenryaku games, Super Monaco, and some Space Harrier. Also did Columns and Columns III. Phantasy Star II and III were done by Izuho Takeuchi, whose work you might be more familiar with -- he did Sonic 2 along with Masato Nakamura.
Both also did the programming/arrangement for Genesis conversions of a number of games. Like, Takeuchi did Alpha Lyra's music for Forgotten Worlds, and Uwabo did Koshiro's Sorcerian.
jeremy1456
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Odrion said:
I would say definitely not, but I guarantee Ethelred will be here in no time stat to disagree.
A Black Falcon
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SailorDaravon said:
Tetris DS? (Yes, I know that they had to get the license from the license holder to release it, but it shows that that is possible)
Anyway, there's always Pokemon Puzzle League for the N64. Same gameplay, with even more options.
... or just edit the game and replace "Tetris Attack" with "Yoshi's Puzzle League", or something, because that's what it is...
I could see them just putting up Panel de Pon and charging a premium, or Pokemon Puzzle League... Personally I'd rather just get a WiiWare version of Planet Puzzle League with online play and stuff... or, you know, just buy the DS version since I haven't yet.A Black Falcon said:
Never heard of it, so I looked it up at Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelunker_(computer_game)).
It's been released in arcades, Atari 8-bit computers (which includes Atari 400/Atari 800), Commodore 64, and NES. Apparently a very difficult game. I've never hear of the publisher (Tozai) before. The only thing on them I could find was that they helped develop the Xbox Live Arcade version of Lode Runner.
It's been released in arcades, Atari 8-bit computers (which includes Atari 400/Atari 800), Commodore 64, and NES. Apparently a very difficult game. I've never hear of the publisher (Tozai) before. The only thing on them I could find was that they helped develop the Xbox Live Arcade version of Lode Runner.
Segata Sanshiro
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I had forgotten how much Tecmo phoned in the 16-bit gen. Itagaki really saved them.TJ Spyke said:
Odrion said:How is the storyline to Phantasy Star 2? Good/Better than FF4?
(also, weren't we suppose to get Master System games this month?)
Way ahead of its time... there aren't nearly as many cinemas as say FF4, but the story has more than enough twists and turns to keep you interested. It's extremely impressive for a game from 1989. Fantastic ending, too.
Diomedeskun
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EphemeralDream said:
Fire 'n Ice is totally different from Solomon's key. Despite similar controls, it is a true puzzle game and relies almost entirely on logic, not reflexes. It's closer to Lolo than Solomon's key, and is a truly awesome game.
A Link to the Past
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It'd be more exciting if I didn't already have it on Genesis Collection.
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cartman414 said:
Not only did the JPN version have unlimited continues but damage was lessened(hits only took one block instead of 2(or three?) and on top of that you could get passwords to save your game.
I hate it when Japanese games are made harder for western releases(It's the main reason I prefer Bare Knuckle 3 to Streets of Rage 3, the changes SoA made to the US release really screw up the game's balance). =/
DaBargainHunta
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It would be silly for me to complain about this week, because we are getting two good games.
However, I played Phantasy Star II years ago and have it on the Genesis Collection now, so it's pointless for me to download. I loved the game back in 1990 or whenever it came out, but I can't honestly say I'll ever play through it again. Too much hardcore leveling-up, etc.
As for Ninja Gaiden III, it's nice, I suppose - but I can't get excited when I thought the game was already there.
Plus, now that I'm hearing how they screwed with the difficulty and removed features from the Japanese version, I'm even less interested. Same reason why I don't want Streets of Rage 3 on the VC.
If you're in the same boat as me when it comes to these two games, just download Lords of Thunder from last week instead. You'll be glad you did.
However, I played Phantasy Star II years ago and have it on the Genesis Collection now, so it's pointless for me to download. I loved the game back in 1990 or whenever it came out, but I can't honestly say I'll ever play through it again. Too much hardcore leveling-up, etc.
As for Ninja Gaiden III, it's nice, I suppose - but I can't get excited when I thought the game was already there.
Plus, now that I'm hearing how they screwed with the difficulty and removed features from the Japanese version, I'm even less interested. Same reason why I don't want Streets of Rage 3 on the VC.If you're in the same boat as me when it comes to these two games, just download Lords of Thunder from last week instead. You'll be glad you did.
DaBargainHunta
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You're off to an awesome start.ghibli99 said:Just stopping by to say that Lords of Thunder shall be my first VC download! Out of all the TG16/TD games, it's one that I never played (I only had a non-CD TG16), and now I finally can. Can't tell you guys how excited I am about finally playing this!
Get Sin & Punishment after.
If you've never had a Genesis or SNES, tons of great games there too.
Ghouls N Ghosts and Streets of Rage (among others) are musts on the Genny.
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I highly recommend that you buy Gunstar Heroes. I recommend it as vehemently as text can convey.
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Odrion said:
That's one of its strengths, I think.
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BooJoh said:
Pokemon Puzzle League was mostly just a conversion of the SNES game with more stuff added and Pokemon (made by NST), but they did add one major new mode, that I don't remember the more recent GBA or DS versions having, which are the 3d puzzles... where instead of just a row of blocks (a rectangle) you've got a cylinder of them.