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Official EA/Tiburon Online Rant Thread: Screw you EA/Tiburon you dicks!
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Guileless
Temp Banned for Remedial Purposes
I have been very disappointed with lag in NCAA. I didn't buy Madden for the first time since 1997. It's depressing isnt it? The only good things they still do are Fight Night and MVP.
Just buy NBA and NHL 2k7 and enjoy online leagues and try to forget about Madden.
Just buy NBA and NHL 2k7 and enjoy online leagues and try to forget about Madden.
as painful as it might be to live without an NFL game, send the message with your wallet. EA doesn't usually release a solid sports title in a console cycle until the third or fourth year. I thought we all knew this. If you need to have it every year you are your own worst enemy, and part of the problem. Sorry, the truth hurts FMT.
snatches said:
Madden 2002 FTW
ps for the most part EA games run perfectly fine on PS2. The problem is with the Xbox/360 games because of the Live servers. However with all the crap Sony is talking about their Live-like PS3 online offering, online might be just as shitty on PS3.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
FMT
EA is abusing the brand loyalty of its fans with Madden and the lack of competition gives them no reason to change. They have already made a nice profit off of Madden this year, and nothing we do at this point will change that. There are many more annoyances with this game beyond the ones you mentioned. I could not play this game anymore a week or two ago and that is precisely why I decided not to participate in the GAF league. EA has managed to suck the fun out of video game football and the fact that more journalists haven't taken them to task for their obvious lack of Quality Control and their inability to get the fatigue patch out almost a full month after it was reported is just plain pathetic.
EA is abusing the brand loyalty of its fans with Madden and the lack of competition gives them no reason to change. They have already made a nice profit off of Madden this year, and nothing we do at this point will change that. There are many more annoyances with this game beyond the ones you mentioned. I could not play this game anymore a week or two ago and that is precisely why I decided not to participate in the GAF league. EA has managed to suck the fun out of video game football and the fact that more journalists haven't taken them to task for their obvious lack of Quality Control and their inability to get the fatigue patch out almost a full month after it was reported is just plain pathetic.
I wonder if they know how much we hate them...I wish I could show them some how.
It baffles me how people get upset when we expect more from the "best" football game. We dont even expect more, we expect the basics and we can't even get that. I swear EA could ship the game with a bug that doesnt allow us to see the ball and it'd get rave reveiws. All the maddenites would scream that you dont really need to see the ball, its just visual candy.
DenogginizerOS said:
It baffles me how people get upset when we expect more from the "best" football game. We dont even expect more, we expect the basics and we can't even get that. I swear EA could ship the game with a bug that doesnt allow us to see the ball and it'd get rave reveiws. All the maddenites would scream that you dont really need to see the ball, its just visual candy.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
I think it might be time for EA to move from Tiburon for MAdden, or atleast infuse new people at Tiburon.
The ESPN integration in Live looks amazing, yet Tiburon could only think up of a ticker for Madden and NCAA? We still are awaiting these amazing online leagues that were supposed to be here 2 years ago. I am not a fan of the cutscenes of the players coming to the line or the muted crowd noise. I am not going to call out EA for getting the NFL license, it was up for grabs and EA won. The same thing happened with the "official bee", "offical cup", "official candy bar", etc. But to me, Tiburon has lost touch as to what the fans feel is important. All the stuff FMT posted in the original post should be in the game. Most of the stuff is not that hard to do. Tiburon cannot tell me that having a CPU-CPU game is hard to do.
One thing that REALLY pissed me off this week was me finally doing the roster update. First of all, I had to actually start playing game online to get the update. It wasn't automatic or even an option just to get the damned thing without playing. We played about 5 plays and of course I got disconnected and got a loss. But regardless of that, I wanted to play with th Texans against the Eagles in a exhibition 'Play Now' game. Guess what? The Texans 4-3 is now a 3-4!!!! The Texans have a 4-3 in real life!!! So I am looking for somewhere to change it and, ther was nowhere to change the defense. The roster update actually screwed up the Texans defense. It was correct in the original roster. Hell, I can't even get the Red alternate Texans jersey without going to Marketplace. Just amazing that Tiburon has lost it's way so fast and that EA is not calling them on it or doesn't seem to care.
To echo FMT, Madden still is a solid game, but all the omissions are really pissing me off.
The ESPN integration in Live looks amazing, yet Tiburon could only think up of a ticker for Madden and NCAA? We still are awaiting these amazing online leagues that were supposed to be here 2 years ago. I am not a fan of the cutscenes of the players coming to the line or the muted crowd noise. I am not going to call out EA for getting the NFL license, it was up for grabs and EA won. The same thing happened with the "official bee", "offical cup", "official candy bar", etc. But to me, Tiburon has lost touch as to what the fans feel is important. All the stuff FMT posted in the original post should be in the game. Most of the stuff is not that hard to do. Tiburon cannot tell me that having a CPU-CPU game is hard to do.
One thing that REALLY pissed me off this week was me finally doing the roster update. First of all, I had to actually start playing game online to get the update. It wasn't automatic or even an option just to get the damned thing without playing. We played about 5 plays and of course I got disconnected and got a loss. But regardless of that, I wanted to play with th Texans against the Eagles in a exhibition 'Play Now' game. Guess what? The Texans 4-3 is now a 3-4!!!! The Texans have a 4-3 in real life!!! So I am looking for somewhere to change it and, ther was nowhere to change the defense. The roster update actually screwed up the Texans defense. It was correct in the original roster. Hell, I can't even get the Red alternate Texans jersey without going to Marketplace. Just amazing that Tiburon has lost it's way so fast and that EA is not calling them on it or doesn't seem to care.
To echo FMT, Madden still is a solid game, but all the omissions are really pissing me off.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
SonnyBoy said:
I know that NHL 2K7 and NBA 2K7 have certainly taken the sting out of EA's BS. Playing NHL 2K7 this weekend I was just absolutely overjoyed to see all of the customization options, the pure quality of connection online, and the fact I am a part of two leagues right now WITHOUT having to use League Daddy is just great. I would absolutely buy a Visual Concepts football game right now even without the NFL license just because I know it will be superior to anything Madden is doing right now.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
bengraven said:
You have to go start a online game with someone, then it will download the update automatically. I could find no other way to do it. But be warned that the roster update has many errors in it, including changing playbooks for the worse.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Andokuky said:
No shit, if anything Test Drive ripped Motor City Online.
I am not saying EA completely sucks because they make some good products. Just Tiburon on next-gen has totally lost focus and lost touch with the fans who buy the game. I am enjoying the gameplay, but just about everything else is incomplete or just has been omitted.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
the thing is madden 06 on xbox didn't have lag. it ran perfectly fine and it was going thru XBL. that's why i don't think this is an XBL issue. i don't know WHAT the issue is but its frustrating
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
saw a pretty big thread on madden nation about the lag issue between east/west on the 360 version. seems like people know about it and are extremely unhappy. how is EA responding to this? i guess they're not
i emailed customer support this evening detailing the problems with the online system. i'm sure i'll get some bullshit answer in return either suggesting some bogus fix or stating they are "looking into it". this shit pisses me off more and more when i think about it
i emailed customer support this evening detailing the problems with the online system. i'm sure i'll get some bullshit answer in return either suggesting some bogus fix or stating they are "looking into it". this shit pisses me off more and more when i think about it
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
welp i emailed EA direct. can anyone make sense out of this response? if so let me know. First, my question:
and the awesome response
is there something i'm missing here? aren't UDP/TCP ports on my router? could this feasibly be a problem? if that is a possible legitimate fix then fine. however, it seems like this dude didn't even read my question. WHY is there no lag on current gen versions? I'm using the same setup!
and the awesome response
is there something i'm missing here? aren't UDP/TCP ports on my router? could this feasibly be a problem? if that is a possible legitimate fix then fine. however, it seems like this dude didn't even read my question. WHY is there no lag on current gen versions? I'm using the same setup!
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
damn... if that one producer i met @ e3 '04 heard Leo V talking to me that way he would be fired!
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
the e3 reference was an inside joke, and i know they don't give a shit i just wanted to see what would happen 
DaddyZ said:
Dude, we are boys and all but what you are saying is that you will reward EA with another purchase after they have screwed your sister and your dog and at the same time punish Microsoft??? That's not cool. I'm not a console fanboy, but the last thing I will do is buy a copy of Madden 07 on the PS3 if it turns out to be a better game. Screw EA for selling this half-ass game to me this year already. I'll of course line up with all the rest of the Madden sheep next year (won't we all?). But I'm not rewarding them with another sale in November.
Think about that.
Bartman3010
Banned
mattiewheels said:
MA-A-A-A-A-A-DEN
(Sorry)
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
I'm sorry i am seeing this topic so late, as we could have put something together.
As it stands, if you guys are really adamant about this whole thing we could definitely try and put something together and launch something EA's way. Problem is it can't just be us, it has to be us with MaddenNation, Madden Mania, Operation Sports... Needs to be a concerted effort for all our voices to be heard.
What bothers me is that I brought all of these issues up a month ago when we all had just gotten the game and a lot of you said that I just had to get used to the game, I wouldn't miss the stuff, that the game was terrific anyway. Look, I've made it a point to break the game as much as I could, and I keep finding new things almost every day. FMT mentioned no defensive matchup, but he did not bring up the ramifications. Go into a stron slot package on any 3 wide set and you're best receiver is matched up against a very crappy DB, meaning instant yardage. In the league someone wanted to use Gates as his fourth WR. How is that fair? A bottom feeding CB covering Gates? Give me a break.
The omission of some of these features have made the game unplayable in some respects. Luckily, I don't think anyone in our league has caught on to some of the exploits that are possible, or they'd be dominating from the word go.
Anyway, I have emails for a few of the PR reps over at EA, if we're really serious about this, let's get the ball rolling early in the development cycle so that we could possibly see improvement next year.
Who's down?
As it stands, if you guys are really adamant about this whole thing we could definitely try and put something together and launch something EA's way. Problem is it can't just be us, it has to be us with MaddenNation, Madden Mania, Operation Sports... Needs to be a concerted effort for all our voices to be heard.
What bothers me is that I brought all of these issues up a month ago when we all had just gotten the game and a lot of you said that I just had to get used to the game, I wouldn't miss the stuff, that the game was terrific anyway. Look, I've made it a point to break the game as much as I could, and I keep finding new things almost every day. FMT mentioned no defensive matchup, but he did not bring up the ramifications. Go into a stron slot package on any 3 wide set and you're best receiver is matched up against a very crappy DB, meaning instant yardage. In the league someone wanted to use Gates as his fourth WR. How is that fair? A bottom feeding CB covering Gates? Give me a break.
The omission of some of these features have made the game unplayable in some respects. Luckily, I don't think anyone in our league has caught on to some of the exploits that are possible, or they'd be dominating from the word go.
Anyway, I have emails for a few of the PR reps over at EA, if we're really serious about this, let's get the ball rolling early in the development cycle so that we could possibly see improvement next year.
Who's down?
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Wellington said:
You can count me in.
And LOL at those who think the PS3 network will be better. Email Luke Smith and ask him about the current status of Sony online. The response from Sony is, "Check out our games in 1080p!".
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Wellington said:
I am in and will give you some e-mail addys of people actually working on the game to be included. But, I think we can count those Madden sites out of it. MaddenNation especially, they seem to not really take EA to task at all because of their close relationship. Actually, I think that is their biggest problem, Tiburon is listening to alot of 'Yes' men and hiring them. There are some serious issues and ommisions in this game and while they keep adding polish, they aren't addressing the issues.
Where the heck is our patch? Glad to see that is coming out within the proper time....
I say let us get the ball rolling for 08 so it isn't a complete disaster. Talking to DM on AIM about Tiburon, between Madden and Superman Returns, I don't know what the hell has happened to them. Perhaps they have too much on their plate at once, or they completely suck at next gen. Who knows. I agree with Dskillz though if Tiburon does not make 08 the greatest madden game of all time, they should be stripped of making the games and let someone else handle it.
At first I thought about going PS3 route if its better too, but if this is actually true it makes me really frustrated. EA pretty much took a big piss on all the 360 Madden fans who paid $120 for two maddens over the last year if the PS3 version is REAL ULTAMITE POWAH.
I say let us get the ball rolling for 08 so it isn't a complete disaster. Talking to DM on AIM about Tiburon, between Madden and Superman Returns, I don't know what the hell has happened to them. Perhaps they have too much on their plate at once, or they completely suck at next gen. Who knows. I agree with Dskillz though if Tiburon does not make 08 the greatest madden game of all time, they should be stripped of making the games and let someone else handle it.
Truelize said:
At first I thought about going PS3 route if its better too, but if this is actually true it makes me really frustrated. EA pretty much took a big piss on all the 360 Madden fans who paid $120 for two maddens over the last year if the PS3 version is REAL ULTAMITE POWAH.
antoniogaud
Member
Count me in too. This game gets worse the more your play it because the omissions become more glaring. I actually think Madden 06 was actually better in some areas. Interface lag is completely ridiculous.
I don't know what is going on at EA. NBA Live 07 is worse than NBA Live 06. Much worse in certain areas (framerate, collision detection, menu screens...). NHL 07 is good, but has its share of problem, some of them major (defense anyone?) I'm frightened to see what they do with Tiger Woods 07.
As far as complaining to EA goes, we need to make a delibarate list and not come off as ranting lunatics. Perhaps we can even get someone at 1up to take up our plea. I can certainly devote a podcast at aggravatedgamers to those of you guys who want to chime in (and have a PC microphone).
I am sick of this and may actually get an old copy of Madden 06 to play instead of 07. They certainly won't fool me again next year.
As for how tis game will play on PS3... Sorry, but I think in certain areas it'll be worse than the X360 version. You can quote me on that if you want. Either way, nobody will want to play either version if they remain the way they are.
I don't know what is going on at EA. NBA Live 07 is worse than NBA Live 06. Much worse in certain areas (framerate, collision detection, menu screens...). NHL 07 is good, but has its share of problem, some of them major (defense anyone?) I'm frightened to see what they do with Tiger Woods 07.
As far as complaining to EA goes, we need to make a delibarate list and not come off as ranting lunatics. Perhaps we can even get someone at 1up to take up our plea. I can certainly devote a podcast at aggravatedgamers to those of you guys who want to chime in (and have a PC microphone).
I am sick of this and may actually get an old copy of Madden 06 to play instead of 07. They certainly won't fool me again next year.
As for how tis game will play on PS3... Sorry, but I think in certain areas it'll be worse than the X360 version. You can quote me on that if you want. Either way, nobody will want to play either version if they remain the way they are.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
antoniogaud said:
That's my point, we need to be surgical about this and not just come off as a bunch of ranting fanboys. I've got some ties to 1up, and I know that some of the guys that do the podcasts and write for the site are regulars here, so if the movement grew strong enough I'm sure we could get backing somewhere.
The question is, how do we attack this issue with EA? So what, I have contacts, Dskillz has contacts, and Denogginizer has contacts at 1up, but what do we do with them?
My idea is as follows:
Create a strictly policed topic on GAF for this year's crop of EA sports titles. Madden is already garbage, Live is garbage, from what I remember NHL was alright, FIFA has some issues (though I think it plays pretty well). Let's put all of this together, get all of our problems and issues into one place and launch them at everyone in EA we have an email address to. Guage their responses and write up a piece exposing what I assume will be emails back from these people essentially saying tough shit.
Look, the bottom line is I am not looking to insult or embarrass anyone. I am a sports gamer primarily, and the NFL being my favorite league somewhat dooms me to Madden titles. I don't want to sit idly by and roast when we could have had much better.
Wellington said:
Create Thread
Take all the comments (the intelligent ones) and create a front page story on how EA has pretty much fubared the 360 owners and what steps the CONSUMERS think they should take to fix this.
Send written and e-mail copies to EA, Tiburon along with the URL of the article.
That is really all you can do and you probably won't get much in return. I am sure the budgets and goals for the 08 games have already been set.
At least you can say you tried.
Now can someone get rid of my stupid tag. It only proves that I have been right about EA and the treatment of the 360 all along.
www.easucks.com
if its in the game its not in the game..
lets get to work on this site..maybe we can get funding from 2K...
if its in the game its not in the game..
lets get to work on this site..maybe we can get funding from 2K...
Malleymal said:
Yea better have you a nice staff of lawyers on your side.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://easucks.com
It once existed to tell the tale of EA's misdoings. EA's legal team then jumped in and got it removed.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
you know i am down like a clown to contribute in anyway i can